Brian Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Gaga Lord speaks:http://www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2012/01/24/isles-should-be-allowed-to-remain-in-uk-if-they-reject-independence-tory-lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Even though they are pawns that Scotland has held since 1469 because Norway/Denmark hasn't paid its debt yet We should tell the English and the Earl of Dounreay Nuclear Power Station, sorry, Caithness, oh goodness, one and the same, to p**s off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Para Handy Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 I'd hope Shetland would remain with Scotland because I think that Edinburgh would be more willing to give Shetland supported autonomy than London. Given that the SNP government seem determined the centralise everything (the latest example being police and fire) I find that hard to believe! Not to forget that the snp also want the oilo money so ta ta to any refill of the CT The town hall wont like that one bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 we wid have a bit more money to spend The council’s development department currently awaits the outcome of a so-called ‘input-output’ study, carried out by Aberdeen University every six years. In 2006, the study found that the isles had generated a £60 million net surplus for government coffers. from herehttp://www.shetnews.co.uk/news/3067-economic-growth-without-interconnector.html No you would not, as the funds to run just a council add up to £90,000,000 or there abouts, that is the figure Shetland gets from Central, as independents, you would not have that income. Except the income from Council Tax. It was mentioned earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dratsy Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 No you would not, as the funds to run just a council add up to £90,000,000 or there abouts, that is the figure Shetland gets from Central, as independents, you would not have that income. Except the income from Council Tax. It was mentioned earlier. dear dear pete i think you should look up the words "surplus" and "net" in a dictionary then read the quote from the article again,and if you still don't understand it I will not be much surprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 The Islands make the GOV 60 million, the GOV give 90 million. So, when independent, Islands don't get the 90 million. That is however if the tax status remains the same. An independent SIC or Shetland will have to find the money to transfer pensions, social care, NHS care and of course a Navy to protect the tarnished fishing industry that seems to be a mainstay of the islands according to some, a worry that the idea of that may drive fishing to the grave in some areas and destroy some of the international agreements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanofNess Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 ^Why would they need the £90million if they didn't hand over the £150million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Possibly the case. We are using figures that are available now and assuming Shetland will be able to charge the same levels of tax that is complained about on these threads. There is also the prospect that the GOV south will want a dividend on the investment they have made over the years. No doubt folk will say what investment.So to keep the oil companies on side, their tax bill may have to be reduced. Add to that the lower fuel duty folk will expect, the "profits" could become a negative. The other ways is to follow Norways tax system and tax vat on nearly everything. Money would also still head south as on these threads we were told that there would be no need to bring utilities back into public ownership. So, unless another PLC can raise the funds with shareholders based on the Islands.I think it will take several years, if not decades if the <1% in favour of isolation fron GB on here can become enough in the real world to make headway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dratsy Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 like I said pete I'm not surprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 ^Why would they need the £90million if they didn't hand over the £150million. The £150million would be a one off payment of funds saved since about the '70's would it not, or have I missed the plot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanofNess Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 ^Sorry wasn't very clear the £150m came from the £90m SP quoted plus the £60m surplus from the 2006 input output study. Not very scientific calculations as without reading the study I don't know what the actual contributions to the coffers were and the sums sent north by the Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Understand now - thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crofter Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 The Islands make the GOV 60 million, the GOV give 90 million. So, when independent, Islands don't get the 90 million. No. That is wrong. The clue is in the name of the survey. Input / output analysis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crofter Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Possibly the case. We are using figures that are available now and assuming Shetland will be able to charge the same levels of tax that is complained about on these threads. No. There could be a 60 million reduction in taxation for the same services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dratsy Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 wasting your time crofterjoined up logical thinking is a mystery to pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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