shetlandpeat Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 It could be with planning laws, anyhow, as you are mentioning polls, the Telegraph did not publish a poll that was paid for them in respect of wind farms, there was quite a bit of popularity with them, though it did not fit in with their stance of not liking them. Sadly, they have fallen foul of the poll condtions as they have to publish them within a certain time frame. There is still no answer to the regular power cuts you experience, at the same time every year. Or there abouts. You may just have to suffer them until another suitable power source is found that fits in with the reduction of fossil fuel usage as set by other regulatory bodies, ie UKGOV, of have huge increases on taxes and bills to pay the fines. The community is the best place for the answers, but so far involve others spending, not the community. With wave power a way off, and some if not all the money with that will go to the person who owns the sea bed, there needs to be a sensible approach to how you are gonna get the few hours out of the year you loose power into the annuls of history. So, the question remains, who are you gonna get to invest the multi-millions needed to remove the risks of power failures, the Council? The seem to be addressing the fibre optic issue, give em time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ of Hildisvik Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Ah yes , the "invisible windfarm"145m turbines on Scallafield ..900ft hill. It could be 100 turbines for a 600mw interconnector.Turbines working at there optimum 50%.This leaves a spare 300mw, probably meaning the covering of Yell with turbines to make up the difference. Pelamis wave power is USELESS, they would only operate at 26% efficincy, this is on their website! And ALL windfarms need 100% nuclear or fossil fueled backup.All they are is a huge "cashcow" for a few, which we have to pay for through our electric bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMe Posted December 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 ahetlandpeat wrote There is still no answer to the regular power cuts you experience, at the same time every year. Or there abouts.Well there is an answer. Or rather there are answers. Penalties for power companies who subject their customers to power cuts combined with government help with the costs of improving distribution systems and some research into ways to do things better. Overhead wire local distribution systems that cause problems in gales, fail during thunderstorms and then just to keep us on our toes in the summer also fail due to nesting birds have been around for a very long time and surely there ought to be something new that would improve reliability. OK so I have no great knowledge of electricity distribution but would it help if the cables were insulated?. What about plastic poles?. Or could a peat bog version of the ditch witch lay underground (or underbog) cables cheaply enough so that each circuit could be duplicated?. We are in the 21st century. People go to the moon. Others sit on space stations. Communications have improved no end. But local power distribution remains in the dark ages......literally for those with 48 hour power cuts over Christmas. There has to be an answer!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 I assume that SSE will pay compesnation in Shetland as they have done so elsewherehttp://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150526842631159&id=365599791158 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ of Hildisvik Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 I shall be giving Hydro a ring seeing we were off for 26 hrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMe Posted December 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 I assume that SSE will pay compesnation in Shetland as they have done so elsewherehttp://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150526842631159&id=365599791158Just one issue with this. In common with other people living in sheltered accommodation in Shetland the council pay my (allegedly) subsidised electric bill and then charge me more than I paid the Hydro in my last home. In a power cut I would suffer but would I be able to claim compensation?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fionajohn Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 has anyone noticed that the scottish parliament has not changed the planning law to allow individuals to erect small wind generators perhaps the large generators would curtail certain payments if they did i am working on an idea gleaned from a web site to run my workshop for a few pence if i can obtain the requisite parts so i can cock a snoot at the fat controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 There are already penalties in place, hence the £75. You are also asking folk elsewhere to pay to upgrade your supply network. What have your councillors done about it? They do represent you, or should. It seems that nowadays, in the light of excessive reliance of electricity for entertainment, folk want the supply network to keep up, but without paying for it. The electricity company is a private business now, and has to be run as such. Again, share holders. I take it there are no shareholders who post here, or do they not want to say. There have always been power cuts, folk sorta got on with it, some would have remembered what it was like not to have a constant electricity supply. If you want to have a maintained supply, and you think that more could be done, get on with doing something. Your arrangement with the council is your business, but I would think it covers maintenance and the regular tests such wiring in such places require. I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 I assume that SSE will pay compesnation in Shetland as they have done so elsewherehttp://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150526842631159&id=365599791158Just one issue with this. In common with other people living in sheltered accommodation in Shetland the council pay my (allegedly) subsidised electric bill and then charge me more than I paid the Hydro in my last home. In a power cut I would suffer but would I be able to claim compensation?.I'm surprised that they can legally charge you more than the hydro charges them for the electricity you use - you should ask the council for compesnation to be deducted from your bill since it is you that has been inconvienced not the council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 They can, as can any landlord, but there could be other charges within the bill, but it should not be on the usage, more a fixed fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilldellin Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 ^ quote from shetlandpete :- [ What have your councillors done about it? They do represent you, or should. ] Have you not heard sp, they are all holed up in an air raid shelter for a week doing some blue sky thinking ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Perhaps NOW is the time to take over, bring on Citizen Smith http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUFzJfs3O3Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairyian Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 ahetlandpeat wrote There is still no answer to the regular power cuts you experience, at the same time every year. Or there abouts.Well there is an answer. Or rather there are answers. Penalties for power companies who subject their customers to power cuts combined with government help with the costs of improving distribution systems and some research into ways to do things better. Overhead wire local distribution systems that cause problems in gales, fail during thunderstorms and then just to keep us on our toes in the summer also fail due to nesting birds have been around for a very long time and surely there ought to be something new that would improve reliability. OK so I have no great knowledge of electricity distribution but would it help if the cables were insulated?. What about plastic poles?. Or could a peat bog version of the ditch witch lay underground (or underbog) cables cheaply enough so that each circuit could be duplicated?. We are in the 21st century. People go to the moon. Others sit on space stations. Communications have improved no end. But local power distribution remains in the dark ages......literally for those with 48 hour power cuts over Christmas. There has to be an answer!. Just like Broadband, where there is no technological reason why every house in Shetland can't have a 1 Gbps fibre connection, you can have an electrical power system that is virtually guranteed to be 100% reliable. There is but one snag with those sort of arrangements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairyian Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 They can, as can any landlord, but there could be other charges within the bill, but it should not be on the usage, more a fixed fee. No they can't.OFGEM says "no". But how the resold price is arrived at has some latitude for different situations. You may find theur guidance of some interest http://www.ofgem.gov.uk/Consumers/Documents1/1970-mrp.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 That has changed, though it does seem that there would be the standing charge PLUS any other charge. You were at one point allowed to resell to cover other expenses at a higher cost.JustMe could not have been charged more for his electricity usage, but used more electricity and could have additional charges. If he did not have a separate meter then the charge could be incurred as beast as estimates allow, so if another tennant had their heating on full it could leave the reseller with a deficit. I can only assume too that there will be a service charge to cover community heating/lighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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