fionajohn Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 i notice that the police have just launched their annual don't drink and drive(or take drugs and drive) campaignand i was just wondering does it do any good or a waste of moneyin my mind if some-one is going to do the above they won't stop and say 2oh i won't because the police are doing their campaign" they will just go ahead like they do the rest of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadger Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 sniffer dogs in the pubs , who are they tryin kid/impress wi that one when everybody knows exactly where the promoters of this sharn are , what they do , how they work , n where they grow thier plants for when the powders are unavailable , lookin clearer and clearer all the time thier waffle on the drugs topic is extremely shallow and the dog is a publicly funded pet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooper Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 What ever people may think the time these sniffer dogs have been in operation in Shetland there's been a lot of hard drugs detected and taken off our streets and a lot of people prosecuted..Whats the authorities supposed to do.? Take them of the streets and let the drug dealers do what they want.. All i can say is good luck to them with there dogs and long may it last.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 ^^ That's one hell of a jump of faith to suggest that the dogs were the reason all (any?) of it was solely their doing. Maybe, just maybe, as much would have been pulled in without them, and maybe, just maybe, there wouldn't have been a fraction of the so called "hard" gear here in the first place had there been no dogs. Come with verifable numbers of the quantity seized that would not otherwise have been brought in but for the dogs, and I'll think about starting to give them house room.... Not heard much mention of anything of the dogs in media reports of "worthwhile" stashes being brought in for a very, very long time, strangely enough. The infamous "intelligence led operation".....(aka. probably some eejit grassed or squealed) has taken the blame pretty much steady. OT. Nah, it makes beggar all odds. Few folk start out sober planning to drive anyplace rat-assed, they just end up rat-assed and realise they are someplace and need to be someplace else, and their wheels are handy. By then the drink is in the (wo)man and the wit is in the can. It might scare a few borderline cases from taking the risk, as they still have hold of most of their gumption, but it'll make no odds to anyone who is right tanked, who is a real danger and an accident waiting to happen, as they're already lost to their own little world where they'll happlily motor on in the delusion they're driving is perfect, and by the way, they're totally invincible too..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Depends on your value of life.If it makes one person think again and not drive and possiblyCause an accident and/or kill or injure someone, of course it is worth it.It can cost up to £1,000,000 to investigate a death. Then there are the folk who have toClear up the mess. Inconvenience to others and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Then there are the folk who have toClear up the mess. Preston overtime rates not great then!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dratsy Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 In the time these dogs have been in use, the availability of hard drugs and heroin in particular has increased beyond all reason the only drug that has been negatively impacted in terms of supply is hash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadger Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 In the time these dogs have been in use, the availability of hard drugs and heroin in particular has increased beyond all reason the only drug that has been negatively impacted in terms of supply is hash. precisely my point for suggesting the dogs are publicly funded pets , lots of the hash smokers are (psychotics) growing thier skunk themselves now n promoting its use to teenagers right under our very noses and actively teaching them how to get each other off with false alibys , and of course the shetland folk get their heads in whatever sand is available , opperation transparent methinks , it doesnt involve easy money off fixed penalties , so just let it happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dratsy Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 In the time these dogs have been in use, the availability of hard drugs and heroin in particular has increased beyond all reason the only drug that has been negatively impacted in terms of supply is hash. precisely my point for suggesting the dogs are publicly funded pets , lots of the hash smokers are (psychotics) growing thier skunk themselves now n promoting its use to teenagers right under our very noses and actively teaching them how to get each other off with false alibys , and of course the shetland folk get their heads in whatever sand is available , opperation transparent methinks , it doesnt involve easy money off fixed penalties , so just let it happen I know a lot of hash smokers and the only psychotics were that way before they smoked hash, I would suggest that being a psychotic is more likely to lead to drug use than drug use is likely to lead to being psychotic.I fail to see how having a fake alibi is going to get you off with a drug charge, you are either caught with the stuff or your not If someone is caught in possession of an illegal substance claiming to be somewhere or someone else is hardly going to wash, The leniency of the courts is down to namby pamby social enquiry reports and a half wit (napier) for a sheriff. On a brighter note though a friend of mines son was a heavy user of heroin and claiming incapacity and unable to work because of his drug of choice.Then in January of this year he was called in and told his benefits were being removed. the removal of this crutch was what was needed to give him the proverbial kick up the ass and get on with his life. He has been of heroin ever since and off prescription for 6 months and in full time employment since February. The tough approach this government is taking works if the civil servants tasked with carrying it out actually do their jobs properly. And I have to say it is a real pleasure to see this young man making a go of his life instead of the useless junky he was last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadger Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 In the time these dogs have been in use, the availability of hard drugs and heroin in particular has increased beyond all reason the only drug that has been negatively impacted in terms of supply is hash. precisely my point for suggesting the dogs are publicly funded pets , lots of the hash smokers are (psychotics) growing thier skunk themselves now n promoting its use to teenagers right under our very noses and actively teaching them how to get each other off with false alibys , and of course the shetland folk get their heads in whatever sand is available , opperation transparent methinks , it doesnt involve easy money off fixed penalties , so just let it happen I know a lot of hash smokers and the only psychotics were that way before they smoked hash, I would suggest that being a psychotic is more likely to lead to drug use than drug use is likely to lead to being psychotic.I fail to see how having a fake alibi is going to get you off with a drug charge, you are either caught with the stuff or your not If someone is caught in possession of an illegal substance claiming to be somewhere or someone else is hardly going to wash, The leniency of the courts is down to namby pamby social enquiry reports and a half wit (napier) for a sheriff. On a brighter note though a friend of mines son was a heavy user of heroin and claiming incapacity and unable to work because of his drug of choice.Then in January of this year he was called in and told his benefits were being removed. the removal of this crutch was what was needed to give him the proverbial kick up the ass and get on with his life. He has been of heroin ever since and off prescription for 6 months and in full time employment since February. The tough approach this government is taking works if the civil servants tasked with carrying it out actually do their jobs properly. And I have to say it is a real pleasure to see this young man making a go of his life instead of the useless junky he was last year drug induced psychosis is a recognised regularly occurring condition rife among hash heads n come up wi any half baked arguement want , thats fact. As is these dreepsit moaniments warbling on a lot of tripe to the gullable natives , so how the hell anybody can claim the high ground n imagine thats totally harmless is beyond logic . Only thing i see the lowest level druggies good at is claiming , being late , doin the barest minimum , but put enormous effort into manipulating words and scenarios and talking total urine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dratsy Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 drug induced psychosis is a recognised regularly occurring condition rife among hash heads n come up wi any half baked arguement want , thats fact. As is these dreepsit moaniments warbling on a lot of tripe to the gullable natives , so how the hell anybody can claim the high ground n imagine thats totally harmless is beyond logic . Only thing i see the lowest level druggies good at is claiming , being late , doin the barest minimum , but put enormous effort into manipulating words and scenarios and talking total urine are you sure your not on something that rambling nonsense is worthy of Shetlandpeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Then there are the folk who have toClear up the mess. Preston overtime rates not great then!?! We deal with more than Preston, but thankfully I do not live there. Most are to do with uncontrollable speeds. No fun shutting a road for 5 or six hours. Especially the A583 or A6. More cars involved than motorbikes, the motorbike incidents tend to appear messier. Back to the drink drive campaign, as we all know, alcohol damages our society far more than any controlled substance. No real road side test for terpenophenolic compounds like Cannabinoids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dratsy Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Back to the drink drive campaign, as we all know, alcohol damages our society far more than any controlled substance. No real road side test for terpenophenolic compounds like Cannabinoidswrong again as usual there are tests on saliva for canabis, sweat tests for canabis, the real problem is proving that someone was unfit to drive and that is down to the wording of the current laws not the veracity of the tests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dratsy Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Back to the drink drive campaign, as we all know, alcohol damages our society far more than any controlled substance. No real road side test for terpenophenolic compounds like Cannabinoidswrong again as usual there are tests on saliva for cannabis, sweat tests for cannabis, the real problem is proving that someone was unfit to drive and that is down to the wording of the current laws not the veracity of the tests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Maybe, have you read this Drug tests that are of astandard admissible as evidence, have to date beenbased on laboratory analysis. This Sweat - is non-invasive, but limited as it is difficult toobtain a sufficient amount on which to conduct aninitial and potentially a second confirmatory test. or this? trained officers at the roadside and is based on an observation of impairment, rather than a biological test. Police use five field impairment tests which are simple to complete if the person is not affected by any substance – but difficult if they are. http://drugdrive.direct.gov.uk/testfordrugs.shtmlhttp://www.parliament.uk/documents/post/postpn228.pdf You are right in saying tests can be carried out as you describe, spittle closely matches blood results, but has to be backed up by lab results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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