School closures back on agenda (2012 SIC cuts)

[paulb]

this is a wild idea how about pulling the anderson out of lerwick and building it around tingwall. yes the lerwick kids would hae to travel. but think of the cost savings on building on a flat open space.

[Colin]

I am still trying to figure how they can save over £11000 by nut buying 3 xmas trees..

[CrunchieSquirrel]

this is a wild idea how about pulling the anderson out of lerwick and building it around tingwall. yes the lerwick kids would hae to travel. but think of the cost savings on building on a flat open space.

 

Tingwall is mostly full of bogs though or else good agricultural land.

[Stirrer]

I am still trying to figure how they can save over £11000 by nut buying 3 xmas trees..

 

This one got me as well, but i believe now that the cost is based on the total DLO staff time spent ordering, installing and taking down, as well as the cost of buying the trees.

 

Most of the cost is therefore an inter-departmental re-charge, where the savings cannot be made unless that staff are dispensed with.

 

Now, if there was no DLO and all jobs were carried out by the private sector then savings could be made year by year on this type of spending. However, i suspect that the Hon. Life President of the local Unison Politburu might not be happy with that arrangement.

[MJ]

this is a wild idea how about pulling the anderson out of lerwick and building it around tingwall. yes the lerwick kids would hae to travel. but think of the cost savings on building on a flat open space.

 

Been suggested lots but strangely enough Lerwiegens aren't too happy with the idea. Something about traveling and loss to businesses.

[Colin]

This one got me as well, but i believe now that the cost is based on the total DLO staff time spent ordering, installing and taking down, as well as the cost of buying the trees.

 

Ah, in which case a generous amount to pay for 3 trees could be in the region of £1500. The other £10,000 must be the cost of maintaining the 'paper trail'.

Crazy. I wonder just how many private sector businesses operate that way...

[Ghostrider]

^ Err....I was always given to understand that at least lone of the three trees, if not more were annual gifts from Norway. Did that stop??

 

Lets face it, no one should be surprised when a "grand plan" is eventually revealed to have one "Super Secondary" as near the centre of Lerwick as possible, and a "Super Primary" in the North Mainland, and maybe ones in the West and South Mainlands *if* all hell breaks loose with the relevant parents. Leaving the isles, which, well, they'll just get bunged in wherever.....

 

After all, seeing as nothing other "iconic" has gotten raised on Sandy's watch, leaving a legacy of the foundations of yet one more iconic balls up will just maybe have to do instead....

[amno]

sure its not the kids fault or most of the adults either but this has to happen maybe not exactly this scinario but one similar accross the whole sic,

 

lets be brutaly ohnest for a minuit, ive been here 6 years and have seen a few campaigns to keep schools open for emotionoal reasons only and if some of them involved were realy ohnest with themselves they'd realise this too.

 

The sad fact of the matter is shetland has been running on a gravy train for the last 35 years thats almot longer than most have lasted anywhere and its running out, you cant just keep spending to keep the people in the lifestyle to shich theyve become acustomed to its not sustainable! no one is going to wave a magic wand and get all youre oil funds back you used them to top up anual budgets like a teenager raiding his savings to go for a night on the p1ss( the council that is)

 

I read an article from shetland life dated 1986 which was concerned even then about the amount of oil revenue being wasted on crap yet it would seem in the 20 years since then no one paid a blind bit of attention to that fella.

 

Now the moneys rapidly drieing up no one complained when the times were good and it seemed like a bottomless pit so it looks like youve maid youre bed and youre going to have to lie in it

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keep digging youre heels resisting change and theyl be no money left and not too many people either id imagin

[paulb]

i bet your attitude would change if it was brae high school and junior throw in mossbank as well. then lets see how you think its ok. not forgetting you have decent roads in the north unlike a lot of ours.

 

maybe they could de invest some of the money they have tied up in the fish quotas. why on earth do we need to support the fishing industry.

 

and who said the money has been spent where the population wanted it spent.

[Shasel]

lets be brutaly ohnest for a minuit, ive been here 6 years and have seen a few campaigns to keep schools open for emotionoal reasons only and if some of them involved were realy ohnest with themselves they'd realise this

keep digging youre heels resisting change and theyl be no money left and not too many people either id imagin

 

Yes there may be emotional reasons but there are also sound logical reasons and many of the councils numbers just do not add up. If you do not make staff redundant where is the saving in closing a school and transporting the kids?

 

The councils proposals seem rushed and fanciful. For instance just think about the parking charges for Lerwick. I assume permitS will be required to stop out of town folk from parking in the side streets. So how many staff will it take to administer that? How much of the money raised will that gobble up?

 

They need to do a damn site better to convince people than a one line statement of close x school for a saving of y with no detail.

[Para Handy]

They can't be that short of funds if the can throw away £390,000 a year by excluding just tobacco companies

 

£1.4 million if they followed the example of the Norwegian State Pension Fund,

 

The Norwegian fund has a list of 54 companies, including tobacco firms and arms manufacturers, with whom it will not invest.

 

Councillor Jonathan Wills, who brought the issue up

I am sick of this imbecile and his pointless morals.

So if your granny has no meals on wheels

you know who to blame.

 

 

http://www.shetnews.co.uk/news/3364-sic-should-re-consider-responsible-investment.html

[Dratsy]

i bet your attitude would change if it was brae high school and junior throw in mossbank as well. then lets see how you think its ok. not forgetting you have decent roads in the north unlike a lot of ours.

 

maybe they could de invest some of the money they have tied up in the fish quotas. why on earth do we need to support the fishing industry.

 

and who said the money has been spent where the population wanted it spent.

 

and why on earth should we support your lifestyle choice

[Ironwithin]

People wee up in arms when they closed all the schools in da sooth end, but now most folk admit it was for the best in the long run.

[Shasel]

People wee up in arms when they closed all the schools in da sooth end, but now most folk admit it was for the best in the long run.

 

But did it save money?

[Ghostrider]

People wee up in arms when they closed all the schools in da sooth end, but now most folk admit it was for the best in the long run.

 

That may or may not be the case, considering no relevant poll has ever been taken, its difficult to argue for or against.

 

However, as someone you lived right through the "experiment" from day 1, while it may or may not have "worked" eventually, it was far from plain sailing for the first five or six years until everyone and everything found their natural order again. If it was the best thing long term, there was a significant unpleasant price to pay by the "victims" in the transition period.