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I think you will find the head honcho tribal leader or whatever you want to call him in the Niger Delta negotiated a better deal than clark did for us the difference is he keeps all the money for himself.

 

In Angola the president gets a dollar a barrel for every drop of oil removed from the country this is on top of the tax regime and the fact that all the reserves are 50/50 partnerships with national companies.

Our deal is looking more like a con every minute.

 

Now the muppets want us to believe they have negotiated a good deal with SSE but don't want us to see what that deal is.

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I think you will find the head honcho tribal leader or whatever you want to call him in the Niger Delta negotiated a better deal than clark did for us the difference is he keeps all the money for himself.

 

Fair point :lol:

 

I was meaning, for the ordinary shetland folk, things are not so bad, there is good roads and half decent schools in the country areas, and we don't have a corrupt government that makes the rich get richer while depriving the poor of... hold on a second, :shock:

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And as for the oil industry being the new merchant navy, Shetlanders are woefully under represented in the oil industry but we do tend to achieve quite a lot when we are.

I know quite a few guys that are very well placed in oil companies and they all think that Shetland gets a crap deal from the industry.

Come on now a half dozen or so apprentices every year when it should be by far the major employer.

But that is not down to the oil industry but poor careers advice from one Andy Carter and poor leadership from the council.

There could of been a college up here years ago specialising in petroleum engineering not just for locals but like the NAFC bringing in students from all over the world.

They could also have been running marine cadet courses years before given that we had a wealth of experience in that area.

 

No crofter even lately when I spoke to the folks a train Shetland they were totally unaware of the opportunities in the oil industry and how to go about getting young men and women into even roustabout or catering jobs, jobs that don't even need qualifications, just a survival and medical.

 

By the way if anyone is interested in working offshore feel free to pm me and I will give what help and advice I can.

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so we need to start charging the oil companies again.

 

On what basis?

 

The original deal was to cover the costs of the disturbance incurred by the building of the terminal. When the original deal was signed the life of the terminal was seen to be something closer to 15 years, not the 30+ years we now have.

 

The terminal now pay rates like any other industry in the UK.

 

The previous arrangement and the subsequent charitable trust is unique to Shetland and I'm not aware of anything similar anywhere else in the UK.

 

Rather than being grateful for the terminals existence long beyond it's original design life, and the hundreds of local jobs and money it brings to the local economy, you want to come up with a new local tax - just because the local council have frittered away their nest egg through ineficiencies and bad investments.

 

Shoogler summed it up nicely earlier in this thread

 

Get yourself up to speed - there is no 'income from Sullom Voe' any more, as the payments ceased when the initial deals were renegotiated in the late 90's. The problem is we have been living off the fat from the investment of those funds and got used to spending far too much of it. The only answer is to wean the population of the level of services we have become used to or - find other sources of additional income to keep us going in the fashion we are accustomed. Time to get your head out of the sand and understand that we are rapidly heading for broke.

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Yes renegotiated by one Malcolm Green he was advised by many folk in the oil industry to go in and negotiate hard to start a 5p a barrel and when they refused to walk out and return the next day at 10p a barrel and so on with an annual rise in line with inflation, and if they didn't like it to pack up clean up and sausage off.

Remember the original deal had them reinstating Sullom to the way they found it, something they are not yet prepared to do, the cost to them at that time would far out way the cost of paying us off.

No malcolm like clark was here to line his own pockets and to hell with us.

 

I do agree with shoogler on one thing and that is we do need to ween ourselves of the level of services we have become accustomed to

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Yes renegotiated by one Malcolm Green he was advised by many folk in the oil industry to go in and negotiate hard to start a 5p a barrel and when they refused to walk out and return the next day at 10p a barrel and so on with an annual rise in line with inflation, and if they didn't like it to pack up clean up and sausage off.

Remember the original deal had them reinstating Sullom to the way they found it, something they are not yet prepared to do, the cost to them at that time would far out way the cost of paying us off.

No malcolm like clark was here to line his own pockets and to hell with us.

 

I do agree with shoogler on one thing and that is we do need to ween ourselves of the level of services we have become accustomed to

 

Enjoying your work here on Shetlink Dratsy, some great ideas and insight. And fine to see somebody who can give SP as good as he gives :lol:

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Here in the smog, business rates do not go to the issuing council, but are sent south to that there London be redistributed. Does that happen with business rates in Scotland?

 

Just found it, the non domestic rates are paid to Scotland. If I read the accounts right, Shetland looses about £4 - 5 million. Also £3 odd million go in discounts.

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