Lazy people using Disabled and Parent/Child parking.

[iron_maiden1975]

What do you if your child has a disability....

 

.....park in the parent/child and get moaned at because

someone feels that your child is to old and they have a lack of

understanding due to your child looking normal.

 

.....Park in Disabled then you get moaned at because you don't have

have a badge.

 

....Park in normal space where you struggle between two closely

parked cars to safely help and guide the child in/out.

 

.... hire a registered carer to look after your child while you do your

shopping every week or even if you have just run out of milk.

[soundview]

Surely you get a disabled badge if your child is disabled?

[Biglad]

Parking in both Co-op and Tesco's car park with a disabled child(in terms of access) is relatively straight forward. There are always plenty of space in the car park further away from the main door as long as you don't go at maybe 5pm weekdays or maybe Saturday afternoons.

 

Parking isn't a problem and shouldn't be a problem as long as you can be bothered to walk what, an extra 100m if thats even possible in the Co-op car park!

 

And don't come with the excuse about force 10 gales and lashing rain, if the weather that bad and you need to go shopping you shouldn't be taking kids out in those conditions.

 

I truly can't see the problem here other than lazyness or inconvenience at worst!

[iron_maiden1975]

Only if you child is high rate mobility doen't count if you child is high rate care e.g Autism as far as I know but could be wrong.

[shetlandpeat]

Would it not be better for the able body person who has parked in a spot marked for those who are not so to park 100 m away?

[Piddly]

Parking in both Co-op and Tesco's car park with a disabled child(in terms of access) is relatively straight forward. There are always plenty of space in the car park further away from the main door as long as you don't go at maybe 5pm weekdays or maybe Saturday afternoons.

 

Parking isn't a problem and shouldn't be a problem as long as you can be bothered to walk what, an extra 100m if thats even possible in the Co-op car park!

 

And don't come with the excuse about force 10 gales and lashing rain, if the weather that bad and you need to go shopping you shouldn't be taking kids out in those conditions.

 

I truly can't see the problem here other than lazyness or inconvenience at worst!

 

[iron_maiden1975]

You would think that Shetlandpeat .....

 

 

Ive never been in that situation due to not having

a car because can't be bothered with the hassle and cost...

 

I find it easyer to put a rucksack on my back walk to the shops and back(rain or sunshine) with my Autistic Son and my other 2 kids (also two dogs)......

 

But I ve always wondered what I would do if I had a car and where I would park it... I think I would be scared to park it in the child's bit at Tesco's because I ve seen and been a aware of cars been dented there ....

 

And Biglad is right by saying.......

"Remember there's always someone more in need than yourself!"

 

Also we should give a little bit of though now again for other people.

[NewMagnie]

People often get very confused about disabled vs parent and child spaces but they're provided for very different reasons.

 

Disabled spaces are there for people with mobility problems. The focus is on the needs of those people and are generally there to make life easier for them. They're deployed by Councils and governments as well as commercial concerns.

 

Parent and child spaces are invented by supermarkets to encourage people who are shopping for families and consequently spending more, to use their premises. It's a wholly commercial proposition and has absolutely nothing to do with the particular needs of parents.

 

Unfortunately, provision of these spaces leads to a bit of an confusion. This is easily cleared up by realising that the spaces for disabled drivers are there because they need them and that the P&C spaces are there because Tesco want your cash. One is an entitlement, the other is retail ensnarement.

 

Now I did use them and was glad of them when my kids were smaller, but I never confused my fondness for a park near the door of Linwood Asda with the actual need a disabled driver has for a park near the door.

 

(I do actually have a special need as a consequence of having children - it's a need for frequent doses of cabernet sauvignon - but no government agency is prepared to recognise my plight)

[JustMe]

Simple idea to ensure that you can still open the car doors although I admit only on one side is to park alongside one of the trolley bays. Certainly this would work for Tesco. The bays are not going to move while you shop and you will be able to open the car doors on return. Maybe give this a miss in a hurricane as right enough one of the bays moved then. This applies to all shoppers wanting wider bays and not just those with children.

[soundview]

I'm sure in the Tescos I've seen south the parent and child spots are actually a wee bit away from the door with the disabled ones closer. It's just the abuse of them that p@sses me off!

 

They should put lovely wide spaces for morbidly obese drivers as far away from the entrence as possible, at the far end of the car park!

[shetlander]

Purely a personal observation from living elsewhere but I am often struck at just how walk shy so many Shetlanders are. Having access to car may well be more of a necessity than elsewhere and walking may make for a grim experience for some of the year but I'm often bemused (particularly when there is so much disquiet about fuel prices) not only at the small distances some able bodied folk feel the need to jump into their cars to travel but how desperate they are to park as near to the door as possible when they get there. Looking aboot, there are an increasing number of folk who could benefit from getting off their backsides once in a while, saving a bit on fuel at the same time.

[soundview]

Purely a personal observation from living elsewhere but I am often struck at just how walk shy so many Shetlanders are. Having access to car may well be more of a necessity than elsewhere and walking may make for a grim experience for some of the year but I'm often bemused (particularly when there is so much disquiet about fuel prices) not only at the small distances some able bodied folk feel the need to jump into their cars to travel but how desperate they are to park as near to the door as possible when they get there. Looking aboot, there are an increasing number of folk who could benefit from getting off their backsides once in a while, saving a bit on fuel at the same time.

 

I can see where you're coming from, maybe it's deeply rooted in the subconscious of us. Something to do with the weather or the same urge that makes young teenagers fight to get a seat in the back of the bus? A strange form of social behaviour which makes folk think they have to be as close to the entrance as possible.

 

I am all for the idea of people walking more, when the weather allows of course. I am amazed when I see those hardy cyclists braving any conditions. I wouldn't do that!

 

There was a bus driver I was speaking to in the health suite around christmas when we had the heavy snow. He was telling me the day before he was struggling to keep the bus on the road in the blizzard and ice, couldn't see 100m ahead, when he came upon Carlos Riise cycling his way into work!

[scoots]

Tesco might take issue with the definitive declaration that P&T spaces are to ensnare family shoppers. After all, they insisted that, after having the situation reviewed, these spaces were necessary from a H&S point of view, for family shoppers, for exactly the reasons that others here have posted (young kids + traffic = bad thing). While you might have that (perhaps cynical, maybe realistic) opinion on the matter, the fact is, they provide these spaces FOR parents & toddlers (the clue is in the name) rather than builders, boy racers, scowling fat men, daring you to say a word.

 

I do say a word, even on a staff, as I am. I have a blue badge, so I get the option to park in those spaces for disabled (much as it irks me to consider myself as such), leaving the P&T spaces for those in need. Funny, BigLad, as with a bairn in a wheelchair, you would have the same, so what does P&T spaces matter to you? Other than you seem to have an issue with defending those able-bodied non-parents who park in them, or at those who complain here, rather than starting arguments or fights by challenging these selfish idiots.

 

Due to my size and appearance (I'm a very big lad too, I just don't boast about it) I tend not to get too much stick back, but thanks to a previously documented incident (in another thread) I refrain from such challenges where my kids are with me, just in case the moron I am politely asking to examine their conscience retorts with a barrage of four letter abuse. My kids don't need to hear that, or see their Dad restrain himself from causing physical harm to these morons. (I seem to recall someone replying with a "yeah, right " response, when I mentioned that my youngest was with me on that occasion. I am tempted to respond with a "yeah, right " response to anyone with a disabled child in a wheelchair, and a young child, who would not be peeved or take issue with those who take up those P&T spaces, but then, there's more disabled spaces than P&T, so it shouldnt really bother him, right? )

 

Fact is, these spaces are provided FOR parent & toddlers. Not parents WITHOUT toddlers, but with a car seat fitted. Or one parent rushing in, while the other remains in car, with the bairn/s. or parents of pre-teens and teenagers. They are excluded, every bit as much as the fat b*****ds that can't be arsed to park across the way, in case they get out of breath while nipping in for their pizza, beer and fags. Or even their lottery, as I saw last week. He just mumbled something about his back, when I asked him about his thoughtlessness, but then he should have a blue badge, right?

 

I have NO issue with folk with serious disability, or caters for such - especially those in wheelchairs - taking a P&T space, probably because some idiots have occupied their spaces for convenience! To my mind, it's self-evident that their need is greater.

 

But, forgive me BigLad, I DO take issue with the clowns who park in these spaces (P&T and disabled) when they do not qualify for either.

 

And, as someone already pointed out, if you don't like reading complaints over the issue, read another thread. Who are you to tell folk they cannot air a legitimate view on the matter?

[scoots]

Thanks for that point about Tesco and their inability to enforce the issue, peat. It's frustrating, but I suppose it's down to legislation. I wonder if the Police have any powers in the matter? The car park still forms part of a road, so legislation might cover it? I mean, if you caused an accident there, the police would still be involved and charge you, I believe. Anyone with legal knowledge out there?

[soundview]

If there was something about the disabled and p&t spaces in the terms and conditions of the club card then they could say that the customer has entered into a contract. They could then do more to police it.

 

If people just thought for a second and behaved in a socially responsible way then it wouldn't be an issue.

 

As scoots has said, you should confront these lazy people. The thing I find difficult is stopping the blood rising when I'm doing it.