which atrocities to fight for?

[jetsam]

With so much airtime being given to the atrocities in Syria, I am reminded of the stories of brutality in Tibet by the Chinese, and how this has been going on since 1959. As so much trade is being done with the chinese, and their vast growth in industry, surely some pressure must be brought on them to improve their human rights record?

 

http://tibet.net/2012/06/16/atrocities-in-tibet-should-arouse-worlds-conscience-says-s-african-mps/

[George.]

But the Chinese manufacture a lot of stuff for us and they do it at a good price so we never noticed anything nasty happening in Tibet. Not only that but the Dalai Lama now stays in his holiday home in India full-time, Tibet's too cold for him.

 

What help would he get anyway?

[NewMagnie]

The Dalai Lama and his feudal cronies had quite a bit of help from the CIA back in the day - the working class Tibetans (ie, everybody else) didn't want a bar of it. They did reasonably well under the Chinese initially, although I admit, things have been less rosy of late.

 

Besides, you really want to take on the Chinese? Gaun yersel', we're right behind you (quite a long way behind you in fact!)

[greenman]

does syria export oil

[Guest CyprusPluto]

does syria export oil

 

Yes

[MJ]

does syria export oil

 

And terrorists to the highest bidder, very good at blowing up planes the Syrians...

[Para Handy]

does syria export oil

 

Dont know about that but they do buy guns and tanks ect

[greenman]

so if syria exports so much oil, why do the west not intervene, they did in libya, iraq, afghanistan etc etc

[mikeyboy]

You have to try and fight battles you can win.

[Guest CyprusPluto]

so if syria exports so much oil, why do the west not intervene, they did in libya, iraq, afghanistan etc etc

 

Syrian oil exports are only about 0.25% of the world total (150,000 barrels per day compared to a world total of about 62million), whereas Libya is 2.5% and Iraq about 3%.

Afghanistan is not an oil exporter and allegedly to do with terrorism and drug exports.

 

There are also two other reasons for not intervening - we can't afford it and it would probably cause too many civilian deaths due to the areas of present conflict.

[turningright]

And terrorists to the highest bidder, very good at blowing up planes the Syrians...

 

for someone so well versed and vocal at accusing everyone with so much as a fractional opinion at being an evil racist im very surprised you think ringfencing an entire nation as terrorists is acceptable.

[Medziotojas]

May I remind you of a quote from Henry Ford:

 

My opposition to war is not based upon pacifist or non-resistant principles. It may be that the present state of civilization is such that certain international questions cannot be discussed; it may be that they have to be fought out. But the fighting never settles the question. It only gets the participants around to a frame of mind where they will agree to discuss what they were fighting about.

 

HENRY FORD, My Life and Work

[MJ]

Really, it's okay to blame the whole of Libya for Syrians blowing up Pan Am flight 103. That's not racism that was anti-socialism, pro USA and an excuse to be used like a doormat by the USA

The behaviour of the Syrian Government, it's state sponsored terrorism and export of such skills is not racism, it's fact. If I also mention the Syrian people can make the most amazing furniture does that also count as racism? One of the nation's main exports is a skill, a highly paid one, this is me being racist? Can I suggest you go out and meet some people, instead of being stuck in the little Britain Mentality. Arms & Skills in the middle east is quite an interesting one.

I think there's a slight difference to using a derogatory term for travelling people for people who cut the grass.

[scoots]

Hmmmm... Henry Ford, pacifist, man of the people, all-round All-American wholesome anti-Semitic Nazi-supporting warMONGER.

 

He may have been a pacifist in WW1, but when Ol' Adolf and his marching boys identified Jews as the main problem in the world, this man, who published The International Jew (based on the entirely fabricated Protocols of the Elders of Zion - a favourite of the purple pain himself, the IckeMeister), which, in turn, MASSIVELY influenced many of those who lent their support and pledged allegiance to National Socialism in the Reich, lent his own tacit support, refusing to assist, and hampering at every turn, the "Jew-influenced" cabal of American warmongers attacking the man who idolised him and kept a life size portrait of Henry by his desk! He is even cited as a paragon in "Mein Kampf". He then made further fortunes out of selling materials to the Nazis as all intelligence said they were gearing up for war, and despite advice and plead from some in the U.S. government. His company - under his direct authority - used French PoWs as slave labour in Germany! Nice way to cut costs, hmmm? He and Joe Kennedy were much of a like. Opportunistic venal Jew-haters. Despicable men.

[I.S]

My understanding was that the DL's brother, living in Taiwan, was the one campaigning for funds amongst - including MANY others worldwide - the Japanese Saran gas nutjob cult leader, and the CIA. As the latter is an agency of a government in direct polar political opposition to the Chinese "government", and as he was trying to free his homeland from their militaristic rule, who is surprised he took money they offered him? Anyone? Anyone at all??

 

As to the whole feudal cronies bit, religious leaders the world over are served by their believers and followers. Heck, look at Scientology (not really a religion, more a wackjob cult of venal cash and power hungry users, preying on the weak, vulnerable, sometimes unstable and even brainwashed amongst their followers). Look at the C of E?? My, that Archbishop of Canterbury is a HARD working man, isn't he? The Pope? Toils away at the mine face, with the rest of the proles. Didn't you know?

 

Sheesh... next thing it'll be the DL's "Nazi connection"...