Clickimin Clippie Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Something thats not being considered is if in 18 short months Scotland votes for independence as looks increasingly likely on the back of an anti Tory/Lib Dem backlash the political and financial situation in Scotland and Shetland could be turned on its head. You mean if Shetland negotiates a reversal of the Salmond Cuts and stays with the UK taking her oil wealth with her? Without the SNP and OSCR sneakily stealing Shetlands riches, Mr Bodel could adopt the 'spend what we like' policy of old. Can't imagine Scotland voting for independence without Shetland to fund it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ertieiddabanks Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 I'm sure he's been vetted and all that but what i'd like to know is what music does he like........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 I'm sure he's been vetted and all that but what i'd like to know is what music does he like........ ....I thought we'd already been given a possible hint on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ertieiddabanks Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 I'm sure he's been vetted and all that but what i'd like to know is what music does he like........ ....I thought we'd already been given a possible hint on that. Surely ghostrider you can't possibly be referring to the recently released poison popcorn album recently released recently by poison popcorn...... recently etc...... http://poisonpopcorn.bandcamp.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrobbie99 Posted September 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 In a independance vote who do you think jo puplic will vote for mass cuts from the tories and the lib/dems or the warmongering scottish labour party .The choice will be clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorrie Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 In a independance vote who do you think jo puplic will vote for mass cuts from the tories and the lib/dems or the warmongering scottish labour party .The choice will be clear. Not clear at all from here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clickimin Clippie Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 In a independance vote who do you think jo puplic will vote for mass cuts from the tories and the lib/dems or the warmongering scottish labour party .The choice will be clear. Shetland will vote liberal unionist like it always does. Scotland will vote socialist unionist like it always does. Salmond will have blown a once in a generation chance because he's taken his eye off the ball forcing his own gay marriage / low alcohol / jail Blair aganda on a public that doesn't want it. What this has to do with the new boss I don't know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleJoannie Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 ^Hopefully the new chief executive will still be here when the independence vote is held for Scotland in 2014. Whatever happens he will have to be at the forefront of negotiations to ensure Shetland gets the best deal from the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exciseman Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 ^Hopefully the new chief executive will still be here when the independence vote is held for Scotland in 2014. Whatever happens he will have to be at the forefront of negotiations to ensure Shetland gets the best deal from the outcome.Shetland has no ‘right’ or power, legal or otherwise, to negotiate anything with anybody. If Scotland votes for the partition of the UK then Shetland will be part of the new independent state of Scotland whether we like it or not and there is absolutely nothing the new CE or anybody else can do about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Shetland has no ‘right’ or power, legal or otherwise, to negotiate anything with anybody. If Scotland votes for the partition of the UK then Shetland will be part of the new independent state of Scotland whether we like it or not and there is absolutely nothing the new CE or anybody else can do about it. Absolute rubbish... We are living in what is supposed to be a democracy. Are you telling us that we have no democratic rights? If WE tell Alex Salmond and his cohorts that WE want no part of his independent Scotland and that WE want to either remain part of (what is left of) the UK or WE want to strike out on our own there is absolutely nothing that ANYONE could do about it other than send in the gunships... That, at least, should lead to a position where WE could negotiate. Shetland is far enough away from the rest of the UK to more than justify a degree of autonomy such as the Channel Islands, Isle of Man, Faroe etc. enjoy. Would you trust an Englishman to negotiate that for us.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exciseman Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 ^^^^^^^^^^^^It isn’t rubbish Colin - it is the law of the land passed by a democratically elected parliament. Your democratic right is to stand for election and if you get elected then you can democratically try to get the law changed – until then you will just have to like it or lump it just like the rest of us, unless your name is Stuart Hill, - in which case....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 ^ Come the revolution....or maybe we'll try for a bloodless coup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matlo Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:57 pm Post subject: ^^^^^^^^^^^^ It isn’t rubbish Colin - it is the law of the land passed by a democratically elected parliament. Would that be the act of the Scottish Parliament in 1611? The one that annexed Shetland and imposed Scottish law? I'm sure it would have been democratically elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 ^^^^^^^^^^^^It isn’t rubbish Colin - it is the law of the land passed by a democratically elected parliament. Your democratic right is to stand for election and if you get elected then you can democratically try to get the law changed – until then you will just have to like it or lump it just like the rest of us, unless your name is Stuart Hill, - in which case....... Which 'Law of the Land' was that? Was it the one passed by the English parliament at a time when the majority of the UK had little or no say in matters of government?Was it the one decided on by Scotland when it, basically, 'stole' Shetland and Orkney etc. from it's rightful owners?Or, was it the one that has not yet been decided on by an independent Scotland that doesn't yet exist? My point is that if Shetland gave independence a resounding No then, if there was genuine resistance to the change, Holyrood would have a major problem asserting any kind of authority. What's the betting that Tavish tries to get in on it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewMagnie Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Ach, Colin - you're confusing what's right, fair and just with what's legal. A common mistake. The former, more often than not, has little to do with the latter, but there's only one that's enforceable in a court. (And to segue elegantly back on topic) And speaking of courts, there's no chance of the new CE ending up in one is there? Because, if not he should be left to to earn the approbation of the community in his own sweet time - as he no doubt will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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