Serco Ferry

[shetlandpeat]

Love the seriousness in your response, well done there.

[crofter]

I would think ... similar.... if ... equate... average... works ...88.2 ... year.....

 

Hmm, not sure about that.

 

boggling....

 

Very.

[beachcaster]

I'm not sure if you know what the word serious means SP, as half of your posts have got to be a wind up, as they make no sense at all. You clearly don't have a clue what you are going on about half the time.

 

I can't make up my mind if you are a wind up merchant, constantly under the influence of drink/drugs or just a good old fashioned window licker.

[shetlandpeat]

Ah, getting back to basics and just calling folks names. You have now become the lowest denomination here, name calling. Wow! Generally, the post is about as important as some of the other posts, obviously, I do not think that having a go at what someone gets paid is justified. So, to entertain and show a serious side to the thread, a little odd maths, that are quite correct, but may not be realistic. Shame though, folk never go on about the cost of fuel say, and how much some one who works with oil gets paid. Not quite your servants as some folk think ferry workers and other folk who work for public sectors seem to be thought of here by some. They too know the dangers, in a way. So, harping on about the pay rise has nothing to do with the industrial action and the worry the employees have.

Every thing has been done to belittle those protesting. Yet, they have the service in mind.

 

I am about as serious as you, anon person.

[owre-weel]

Shame though, folk never go on about the cost of fuel say, and how much some one who works with oil gets paid. Not quite your servants as some folk think ferry workers and other folk who work for public sectors seem to be thought of here by some. They too know the dangers, in a way. So, harping on about the pay rise has nothing to do with the industrial action and the worry the employees have.

Every thing has been done to belittle those protesting. Yet, they have the service in mind.

 

I am about as serious as you, anon person.

 

.... Shame folk never go on about the cost of fuel say....

 

Pete you have contributed to the 1222 posts about fuel prices.

 

If I could put it a bit nicer Pete, some of your posts are quite difficult to get the jist off, perhaps you could consider making them clearer to understand. I for one would appreciate that as I sometimes read them over and over thinking I must be thicker than I though as I don't understand them.

[shetlandpeat]

I respond to what is posted, that is, I read through the previous post and comment sometimes line by line. What some do, is isolate some of what I say and not keep it in context with the previous comments made by others.

 

Alas, the intelligence here seem only intent on pulling apart the poster and not really the comments. It is done purely to ridicule the individual rather than address the points. If you do not understand, ask. The brilliant thing about folk is folk. In the same breath.

 

Why I do not understand what the pay rise has to do with the industrial action? The industrial action is not about that.

 

As you point out by extracting a small part of my post, yes I have commented, as others in the cost of fuel. folk do not go on about the higher than average pay or rises folk in the oil industry get.

 

I must be thicker than I though....

 

Not something I normally do, but perhaps highlighting snippets is the way to go? Not really, I knew what you meant to say. So no need. apologies...

 

Though, bite back....

I can't make up my mind .........

Perhaps you could not make up a mind like yours?

 

Nope, don't make me feel any better....

 

Serco does not do things without making a profit. With them and the likes of BT taking over large chunks of public business, eventually, folk will not be able to have a say. This is one of the reasons I advocate public involvement, and have done for as long as I remember.

[JGHR]

If you do not understand, ask.

 

I have lost count of the number of people I have seen explaining to you, in simple, straightforward and honest language, that your posts are difficult to understand or nonsensical.

 

The reason the bulk of your posts are incomprehensible to others, is not because the reader is incapable of understanding your superior level of intellectual input, as you seem to think, but because you are unable, or unwilling, to properly express yourself in written English.

 

The root of the problem lies with you and no one else.

[shetlandpeat]

Alas, I am not ashamed of it. Why should I be, especially when I witness such delights.

 

Again, ask, you may really be missing out.

 

I refer you to the comments made previously.

 

So, let me take the unable, is that then a reason to ridicule, name call or pick apart a perceived personality. Without really knowing, you could just be constantly having a go at someone who has difficulties.

 

I wonder how that could be described.

 

Anyhow, still, pulling apart the poster.....with a lack of regard of their personal capabilities, in your eyes...

 

Back to the topic,

 

I wonder why the vitriol continues against ferries, be it Northlink or the new Serco, or even the employees, alas, anything to do with ferries. Perhaps it is the union bashing this time as it seems one man controls the minds of many who I may add are probably in the largest tax paying collective. I have not seen the justification on constantly lambasting folk who make a stand in this way. Alas, I stand to win some money as ferries could be cancelled due to the weather...

[JGHR]

 

Anyhow, still, pulling apart the poster.....with a lack of regard of their personal capabilities, in your eyes...

 

 

 

I have read plenty of posts in on-line forums which have been made by people who have difficulty writing in English for one reason or another, perhaps they are dyslexic or do not have English as their first language. Many such people still manage to contribute to an on-line discussion in an intelligent, considered, and meaningful way. The same cannot be said about most of your posts. I have no idea if you have some disability, which prevents you from writing coherently or not, but, I for one, do not believe that the garbled nonsensical nature of your writing is anything other than a ludicrous attempt to appear superior.

[bug]

Shakespeare is supposed to be the bard of the English language and (although his writing was a topic at school) I still make no sense of his pish. - so SP carry on - you could be famous when your gone

 

so to Maths for the simples. (Circa numbers ok.)

 

2 weeks on and 2 weeks off (less 5 weeks holidays) means you work 21 weeks a year (c.12 hour shifts) = c. 1764 contractual hours

 

c.9-c.5 monday to friday with c. 28 days holidays = c. 1740 contractual hours.

 

So to conclude - shift workers (i.e. Serco), oilies offshore and shiney arses et. al. onshore all work c. the same number of contractual hours. (some will do overtime over and above contractual hours - but that's a personal choice)

 

Does that make sense?

 

No? - Ok - Shift work and Day work - Not much difference except we day workers have to go to work for 260 x 8 hour days and the guys with "all the time off" only have to go to work for 147 x 12 hour days. (except some of the poor offshore/mariner blighters have to be at their work for 24 hours a day c.12hrs paid - c.12 unpaid.)

 

By the way I'm on double time at this time in the morning - JOKE

[shetlandpeat]

 

Anyhow, still, pulling apart the poster.....with a lack of regard of their personal capabilities, in your eyes...

 

 

 

I have read plenty of posts in on-line forums which have been made by people who have difficulty writing in English for one reason or another, perhaps they are dyslexic or do not have English as their first language. Many such people still manage to contribute to an on-line discussion in an intelligent, considered, and meaningful way. The same cannot be said about most of your posts. I have no idea if you have some disability, which prevents you from writing coherently or not, but, I for one, do not believe that the garbled nonsensical nature of your writing is anything other than a ludicrous attempt to appear superior.

 

Snap, or: Perhaps you could be boring?

 

When I worked away from home Bug I used to get what appeared to be odd payments. Alas, if the ferry crews have to be on board for 2 weeks, their pay and hours reflect each other.

 

"And thus I clothe my naked villany

With odd old ends stol'n out of holy writ,

And seem a saint, when most I play the devil."

[Hector's House]

... I for one, do not believe that the garbled nonsensical nature of your writing is anything other than a ludicrous attempt to appear superior.

I was going to follow that up by suggesting that many of the regular posters (especially those who are involved with, for example, local government ) could do worse than take some tips from the Plain English Society - however when I tried to view their website http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/ I got the response

"Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting T_OLD_FUNCTION or T_FUNCTION or T_VAR or '}' in /homepages/45/d190934960/htdocs/plugins/system/noixacl.php on line 22"

Oh, the irony!

[JohanofNess]

I have read plenty of posts in on-line forums which have been made by people who have difficulty writing in English for one reason or another, perhaps they are dyslexic or do not have English as their first language. Many such people still manage to contribute to an on-line discussion in an intelligent, considered, and meaningful way. The same cannot be said about most of your posts. I have no idea if you have some disability, which prevents you from writing coherently or not, but, I for one, do not believe that the garbled nonsensical nature of your writing is anything other than a ludicrous attempt to appear superior.

 

Forsooth Master JGHR, tis nobler for the soul to elevate its words to the level where the mind truly dwells than to sully ones self with feeble attempts at communication beneath ones superior intellect.

 

Alas I feel it tawdry conversing like yourself and your lesser cohorts this may go some way to explaining why one such as I speaks in the manner of a 16th century nobleman on internet forums.

 

Now be away with you surly rogue.

 

That's how it feels to me when SP tries to justify his rambling posting style. Tis because he tries to purport a grasp of the english language higher than he commands, alas.

 

If he spoke plainly he may find that many people agree with what he is saying but talking in the way he has been particularly this thread makes him stand offish and aloof. Neither of which are necessary.

[crofter]

Alas, if the ferry crews have to be on board for 2 weeks, their pay and hours reflect each other.

 

Alas?

 

"And thus I clothe my naked villany

With odd old ends stol'n out of holy writ,

And seem a saint, when most I play the devil."

 

Are you just posting nonsense on here for devilment?

[crofter]

If he spoke plainly he may find that many people agree with what he is saying but talking in the way he has been particularly this thread makes him stand offish and aloof. Neither of which are necessary.

 

Alas and alack Johan I fear you may be correct.