Silvercloud Posted February 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Union reps ue to be blue collar workers on the shop floor certainly not middle managment, just get better doesn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 The majority of our practitioners are hard working and caring individuals who are not only unable to speak out for fear of suffering the wrath of senior management, but also hindered in their daily working lives because of the red tape forced upon them. It is ridiculous that in this day and age a whole section of our workforce in shetland are not afforded the right of freedom of speech. What year is this? I have never understood how it has been allowed to happen and in my opinion such gagging is used to hide failings and only serves to raise suspicion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorrie Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Hello Lone Wolf for the last time - I have spoken to the police also to keep you happy, you think you can abuse me with your wild and inaccurate statements and not inform me why you are bullying me, see you, Bye. Goodbye Shetlink. Oh, for crying out loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector's House Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Goodbye Shetlink. Or is it au revoir? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercloud Posted February 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Some of their research they use as evidence can be from dark ages and there is always going to be good and bad health professionals and there is always a group in every hospital no matter the size that won't roll up their sleeves and get their hands dirty, hide behind the desk or a drug trolley and just wait for their pensions to roll in with an attitude that says it all. TThe trouble is they are easy to spot in smaller hospitals and should be brought to task for it.Managers and Directors should not ask lower staff to do tasks they not prepared do themselves *sometimes* especially when short of nursing staff because they slashed staff on the wards. Maybe it help them keep more in touch what is actally going on on the shop floor.If they do 150 hrs per year or 3 hrs a week they could keep their registration and their clinical skills up to date. If it's been that long for them it won't hurt them to go on a back to nursing course and be more involved instead of hiding away enjoying perks and more fact finding missions.I'm sure most nurses would love to see directors rolling up their sleeves and getting stuck in once in while with patient care including the very basic care of washing and toileting complete with smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamiltonian Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 If the nurses are fearful of losing their jobs etc., doesn't the stress of having to use a lesser than best practise affect their mental health?Surely their unions know of this problem and could act on this! Maybe you could be more precise as to what your actual point is here? Considering your proximity to a front line senior nurse (that I am sure you are aware is also a union rep'), I am beginning to think this could be turning into a personal attack. I hope that is not the case.If you are really convinced that the staff at the hospital are "not good at their jobs", maybe you could take the time to point that out to your neighbours. I'm sure they would pass it on next time they visit her and the problem could be rectified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bresail Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Hamiltonian,"Maybe you could be more precise as to what your actual point is here? Considering your proximity to a front line senior nurse (that I am sure you are aware is also a union rep'), I am beginning to think this could be turning into a personal attack. I hope that is not the case. " No, I am not aware of of a front line senior nurse who is a union rep in my proximity. I do not personally attack people without confronting them to their face. You know who I am, My name is Rex Fearnehough I live in Bressay. Very close to you. You can also can also be assured that your second part is also wrong.I have not at anytime in this post attacked anyone. I am annoyed that our Nurses, Doctors and the patients are getting a bad deal, maybe someone in your family has been or will be a victim of inefficiency.I am beginning to think that your post is a personal attack on me. I hope that is not the case.By the way to all posters don't presume about me. Do it outright if you wish to know anything about me, ask me. I will answer you honestly.I can promise you that, hence I do not hide behind a posting name to protect myself.Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 ive not noticed any personnel attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercloud Posted February 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 A duty of care or duty of obedience? Wrapped up in fear, protocols, red tape ,guidelines, staff shortages, the list is seemingly endless. Where has the genuine passion* to nurse * gone of *some *of our nurses and even some higher up who perhaps forgotten they to were once a nurse and now so far removed ? To be able think outside the box to do one best for the patient and to stand up for the patients and other members of staff as necessary and speak out when things go wrong and to therfore continue to strive for high standards driving down poor and inefficient care. Many just see it as job where perhap once upon time didn't, now count hours down to end of shift. Whilst they work you can see on their faces sometimes their minds elsewhere and not on the task in hand and some look downright miserable.The passion all but gone for some as they struggle with duty of care or duty of obedience to their employers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bresail Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 paulb,The last paragraph in my last post was just jokingly turning the tables on hamiltonian, who obviously hadn't read what this thread was about. He suspected that I had a personal vendetta against a particular nurse.His name is Richard Head but most people call him Dick.Regards,Rex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercloud Posted February 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Maybe starting with this morning the nursing directors and higher up managers would like to go on to the wards with a smile and introduce themselves to some of the patients. Maybe the healthboard would like to be first in leading the way and showing some other health boards how to work for staff and patients and promote high standards without using fear tactics and gagging orders by removing them and start to lead by example . Just maybe it may be start in going some way towards showing that a healthboard can listen and take on board staff and patients concerns and perhaps in higher positions got on to the shop floor once in a while and actually listened to what staff and patients would like and get hands dirty they may start to get more respect. Its such a small hospital you could make it a cracking little hospital to be admired by all if only people at the top used their listening skills a little more.Much work is to be done and it needs to come from ALL levels not just those at the bottom. We have some lovely professionals, weed out those that don't pull their weight and give poor care by all means but make sure the same is applied at the top too. Thr trouble is I suspect that staff and public won't really say what they really think because they need confidence to able speak out that will only come with time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 to be fair a lot of them that are nurses do. some managers are not qualified to be on the ward. so for some its better if they were not on the ward when there is an urgent need for support. the use of the specialist nurses when there is an urgent need is a good step. i will need to step out of this discussion now as the debate is becoming to detailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercloud Posted February 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 It doesn't take a qualified nurse to ask patients whether they are happy with their care does it ? Those higher up that are qualified nurses certainly could get down there and do couples work on the wards it would keep them in touch with reality. If higher board members introduced themselves and went around the wards let face we don't don't have many do we, just saying good morning in happy pleasant manner to staff and patient alike to ask opinions about hospital ask them to be honest and if said in right friendly manner its only going to encourage a more positive healthy attitude. If staff knew they comming around the wards not just to nit pick it going to start tocreate better atmosphere. Just once a week I'm sure those in senior managament positions whether qualified or not could manage a walk around with smile. No excuses unless that too much like hard work or they might like the some of the answers they may get but then act on them in a sensible fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercloud Posted February 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Last line should read *might not like some answers they may get* or frightened of the answers they might get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bresail Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 So the gagging may/does affect the families of staff too.Regards,Rex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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