Israel vs. Middle Eastern Arab states

[Gibber]

In this thread you seem to have ticked these boxes

 

Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective - such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.

 

Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).

 

Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.

 

and a new version of the old Blood Libel

 

If all this turns out to hold water, it makes me wonder what else I have been lied to about and just what is Bush and his good old boys doing in the cult of Moloch in the Bohemian Grove. Is ritual murder still alive and well in the so called Jewish traditions of some, have those who died in and because of 9/11 all been just another blood sacrifice to a higher cause and to what end.

 

It would be interesting to hear how you don't think you have a prejudice against Jews apart from your extensive Jewish DVD library.

 

Here are some more Blood Libels for you to believe in.

 

http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/antisemitic.html

 

Its noted that there is a parallel with these and accusations of witchcraft. Perhaps you believe some women are witches also.

 

http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/witch.html

 

Do you ever feel cheated or wronged by women? Do women sometimes make you feel nervous or confused? If it wasn't for the Jews stealing all the good ones perhaps everything would be alright.

 

http://engineblockers.googlepages.com/Clipboard-1.jpg/Clipboard-1-full.jpg

 

"Polish Friends! Do you want to die for these?"

 

[KOYAANISQATSI]

Polish witches?

Sorry, you lost me there mate.

Best you just stick to what you know; shouting about alleged horrors the world owes you for or perhaps getting a petition going to get Iran nuked.

[Gibber]

Just thought you would like the sentiment; rich Jews, who control the media and steal 'your' women.

 

It would still be interesting to hear how you don't think you have a prejudice against Jews apart from your extensive Jewish DVD library.

[Gibber]

It's unlikely anything Could make me chuck out my Mel Brooks dvds

 

Are you insane? If you believe in a global Jewish conspiracy (and why wouldn't you?) what on God's green Earth makes you think their isn't subliminal hebrew coercion in the Jew Brooks' films?

 

Be warned, you are taking a big risk every time you watch The Producers.

 

Max Bialystock is named after Bialystok in Poland. A place where Jews, homosexuals, liars and Communists claim these 'Jews' are being taken from, and onto 'Treblinka' to die.

 

http://engineblockers.googlepages.com/shoa1.jpg/shoa1-large.jpg

 

Everytime you watch The Producers and Zero Mostel is on the screen, the Bialystok Holocaust lie is being subliminally planted into your head!

 

However, judging from your sophisticated and clever opinions posted on this thread I suspect your are more of a Robin Hood; Men in Tights fan. Even so, be careful! a Mel Brooks (Jew) film making light of and promoting the typically Jewish traits of lawlessness, theft and Communist wealth redistribution.

 

Throw those DVDs away before their insidious Jewish 'waves' break through the tin foil hat you spent so much time lacquering with bacon fat.

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'Treblinka' you say. Hmmm:

 

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=-wsxmCTScCE

 

Holocaust historian and Jewish activist Deborah Lipstadt is a prominent and severe critic of Holocaust revisionism (or to use her terminology, “Holocaust denialâ€). As a result of the libel case brought before the High Court in London in the winter-spring of 2000 by David Irving against Lipstadt and her publisher, she and her book, Denying the Holocaust: The Growing Assault on Truth and Memory, are now world famous.

 

One of her book’s primary claims is that Holocaust revisionism is utter nonsense, on par with the flat earth theory. On the dust jacket we read: “The denial of the Holocaust has no more credibility than the assertion that the earth is flat.â€

 

Dr. Lipstadt further insists the traditional view of the Holocaust is not a matter of debate. To debate the Holocaust revisionists “would give them a legitimacy and stature they in no way deserve. It would elevate their anti-Semitic ideology—which is what Holocaust denial is—to the level of responsible historiography—what it is not.â€

 

Despite what Lipstadt writes, if hard evidence for the Holocaust is overwhelming and the claims of revisionists ridiculous, to engage the latter in debate would not lend them credibility and respect. Quite the contrary. Crossing swords with these “cranks†would be a golden opportunity for Lipstadt to expose their alleged quackery and stupidity. Only if revisionism has intrinsic validity will it gain stature by a public hearing. The Emory University professor’s refusal to debate carries with it the implicit recognition that revisionism has more legitimacy than she cares to admit.

 

Even if revisionism were pure balderdash, the public interest would still be served if it were given serious attention in the mainstream media. The truth of the traditional version of the Holocaust could be reverified. Lipstadt has been quoted as saying that she is “only interested in getting at the truth.â€

 

If this be so, then a more complete perception of the truth would be gained in a public debate where her “Holocaust facts†clashed with “revisionist fiction.â€

 

The reader will now ask—what is the real reason behind her refusal to debate?

 

This question was answered in part on July 22, 1995, the day that revisionist historian Mark Weber squared off against anti-revisionist historian Dr. Michael Shermer in an oral debate on the Holocaust. Both sides were given a fair and equal opportunity to present their case, as the audience had the opportunity to hear defenses of both the Holocaust revisionist and the traditional view of the Holocaust.

 

The debate was a disaster for the traditional view of the Holocaust. Weber made Holocaust revisionism look too good and Lipstadt’s Holocaust ideology severely deficient. As evidence that this is the case is suggested by the fact that some years after the debate Shermer wrote: “It is one thing to analyze the literature of deniers of or to interview them face to face; it is quite another process to confront them in a public forum, where their skills at rhetoric and debate can trip up even seasoned scholars and historians.â€

 

Indeed, to this day Shermer refuses to advertise the videotape of the debate in his Skeptic magazine and he never referred to it in his long analysis of Holocaust revisionism that appeared in his bestseller, Why People Believe Weird Things. Although the force of circumstance compelled Shermer to mention the videotape in brief passing in his Denying History, the reader is given no information on how to acquire it, which suggests he and his ilk don’t want people to see the video.

 

It is safe to assume that if Dr. Shermer had scored a victory over Holocaust revisionism, he and the Deborah Lipstadt’s of this world would be aggressively promoting the Weber-Shermer debate videotape.

 

The upshot of my argument is this. It is actually a somewhat favorable sign for Holocaust revisionism that some of the major promoters of the traditional view of the Holocaust like Deborah Lipstadt refuse to debate. It seems to be a tacit admission by its most bitter opponents that Holocaust revisionism has more credibility than they care to publicly admit.

 

Why should we revisit these events

 

hmmm?

 

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Soc/soc.culture.israel/2006-03/msg00405.html

http://www.nafcash.com/

 

For more than 99% of my life I had been horrified by what I had heard about these camps and what went on in them. Thank you gibber for drawing these matters to my attention or I may never have realised the extent of the lie, I will make sure I am not fooled so easily next time.

The world may one day wake up to this (and I hope it does) but with Holocaust museums in every state and worldwide repeating the lie and more and more laws to deter those who may question it; it may take some time. Mundus vult decipi, as they say.

 

meanwhile, some more truth about Auschwitz from Jewish historical revisionist David Cole.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhMTHYUEYUY

 

ELIE WIESEL won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1986. He is generally accepted as a witness to the Jewish "Holocaust," and, more specifically, as a witness to the legendary Nazi extermination gas chambers.

 

for month after month, the ground never stopped trembling; from time to time, geysers of blood spurted from it.

[Gibber]

I will make sure I am not fooled so easily next time.

 

Well...er...good luck with that.

 

"not fooled so easily next time" you say, Hmm:

 

PM me about the following and we'll set something up. I think it could be very lucrative for you.

 

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The world's largest Holocaust archive, the International Tracing Service in Germany, has finally agreed to open its secret files. Now in a series of exclusive reports, Edwin Black reports first time details of what’s inside, section by section, complete with filing and record group numbers. The evidence is that Bad Arolsen holds more than the terrifying history of millions of individual victims, but also how big corporations, insurance companies profited. What’s more, the evidence of IBM’s involvement in the day to day victimization of Europe is only further magnified with thousands of new documents. Moreover, Black’s latest coverage has revealed the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum’s plans to sequester the documents to its own site in Washington, or function as a middleman vetting all requests, plans which have outraged survivors and second generation members. From coast to coast, members of the Holocaust community have gone on the record to vocally disapprove of the Museum's plans and urge Congress to mandate remote access via the Internet or a universally accessible database like any other government documents are.

 

For years, the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum led a crusade to release the world's most secret and voluminous collection of Nazi-era documents, the International Tracing Service records, held at Bad Arolsen, Germany. Now digitized copies of the documents are entering designated archives in nations that control the records. In the United States, the museum is the designated recipient.

 

Yet the very people the museum was trying to help—Holocaust survivors who want access to the documents to learn the fate of relatives and friends—are outraged. Their grass-roots organizations are vociferously fighting the museum for remote access to the precious information that was nearly inaccessible for decades.

 

As Holocaust survivors continue to demand Internet access to the Bad Arolsen documents and the Museum denies it is technically feasible, impatient Red Cross officials reveal that the transferring files are already in Internet-ready XML computer language and that both France and Bad Arolsen made official suggestions--twice spurned--for an Internet-accessible "virtual private network.

 

http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/BadArolsenArticles.php

 

Why this is?

[Gibber]

Why this is?

 

Is the answer Jewish conspiracy?

 

I've a feeling it probably is.

[KOYAANISQATSI]

Until two weeks ago, British holocaust survivor Eugene Black assumed his sisters had died in Auschwitz.

Then he visited Germany's biggest wartime archive, where a major new effort has just begun to make its unparalleled records more widely available, and discovered they had been spared.

"When we arrived at Auschwitz I was immediately separated from my mother and two sisters," he said yesterday, from his home near Leeds. "Five minutes later I was separated from my father. I never saw any of them again." After accessing the files at Bad Arolsen in central Germany however, Mr Black, a Czech Jew deported to the Nazi's most notorious camp in May 1944, discovered that his sisters like him had been selected not for death but for slave labour teams.

"After 64 years believing they had perished in the gas chambers with my mother the documents came as such a shock," he said.

Mr Black endured a horrific 12-month ordeal that saw him transferred through a series of camps until he was eventually liberated by British troops at Bergen-Belsen.

At Bad Arolsen he learned that his sisters had also avoided the gas chambers.

But to his horror, Mr Black, who anglicised his Czech name Jeno Schwarcz, found the archive revealed that they had been killed instead in an Allied bombing attack on the factory where they had been forced to work near Buchenwald.

"It's unbelievable. It still has to sink in," he said. "I've had to think things through again. But at least they died together and weren't gassed.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2603431/Bergen-Belsen-survivor-learns-of-sisters-fate-64-years-on.html

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TODAY AT THE FORMER German concentration camp at Dachau, it is no longer claimed that Jews or anyone else were ever killed in the gas chamber there. In the room that is supposedly a gas chamber, one can clearly read a sign written by the museum authorities in five languages which says, "THE GAS CHAMBER disguised as a 'shower room'-never used as a gas chamber." Although the room was completed in 1942, it was never used for its intended purpose-presumably, it was used for other purposes; perhaps it was used as a shower room after all.

Until the introduction of DDT by the Americans and by the Germans in 1944, the delousing of not only clothing but also living quarters, especially barracks, and~railroad trains in order to kill body lice was the only effective means of controlling the spread of typhus. Until the arrival of DDT, the most effective pesticide for killing body lice, i.e., for delousing, was Zyklon-B.

One final step which was sometimes stressed in the German technical literature was that the articles that had been fumigated still should be aired in the open for at least five minutes before they were returned to their owners

Throughout World War II severe outbreaks of typhus occurred in the German-occupied East. Especially in the last year of the war, with disaster falling upon Europe and with millions of people fleeing to the West from parts of Europe where typhus had always been endemic, Zyklon-B became the great life-saver. Although DDT and some other substances such as the IG Farben product "Lauseto" had become available, the quantities were severely limited by the bombing of German chemical and pharmaceutical plants. Without Zyklon-B carrying on in the role it had established for itself in the early years of the war, the horrible scenes in isolated places such as Bergen-Belsen in the spring of 1945 would have certainly been repeated on a far more spectacular scale. What actually happened was bad enough.

Rather than having been the victims of Zyklon-B in murderous gas chambers, the Jews were probably the principal beneficiaries of Zyklon-B and its proper, life-saving application in well-designed German delousing chambers such as the ones which can still be seen in [nachall] The German Delousing Chambers.

We have been blinded by our tears of sympathy for the supposed victims. We have been blinded by our tears of shame for deeds which people just like ourselves might have committed. But if we dare to wipe those tears away and look at the "Holocaust" evidence critically with sober heads, we find that there are no grounds for any such tears at all.

The purpose of the delousing chambers was to save lives-and that is not denied except by the most passionate Exterminationist. No doubt, many hundreds of thousands of people, possibly millions, including countless Jews, owe their lives to these chambers and the German technology based upon Zyklon-B.

 

How could the same Germans-particularly, the SS and the people from DEGESCH-who used a highly developed technology to kill lice in order to save countless human lives have simultaneously tried to use a pathetically primitive technology, which could not have even worked in the manner alleged, to destroy millions of human lives? How could they have used well-designed gas chambers with circulation to try to save millions of people from typhus while at the same time trying to use badly designed chambers without circulation to kill millions of people? How could they have been using an advanced technology to save people who were in many cases the very same people, namely Jews, that they were simultaneously trying to kill but with the most primitive variations of the same technology?

 

There are no answers to these reasonable questions even after forty years nor are there ever likely to be any answers consistent with an extermination thesis. In the absence of any proof based upon forensic evidence of even one case of death by gassing with cyanide at the hands of the Germans or of any other reliable evidence-the "evidence," such as it is, consists almost exclusively of "confessions" and fantastic anecdotes of "survivors"-one should reject the "Holocaust" claims as self-serving propaganda. What is clear from any careful technical analysis of the supposed gas chambers for mass extermination is that the "Holocaust" story is absurd.

 

http://www.codoh.com/gcgv/gcdelouse.html

 

Interesting

[KOYAANISQATSI]

Asked whether the Holocaust Museum supported the French proposal for Internet access, a key Commission official speaking on condition of anonymity declared cautiously, “Look, this entire process has been steered by one Organization and one country: The Holocaust Museum and America. You must ask them.â€

However, Holocaust Museum spokesmen Andrew Hollinger and Arthur Berger, as well Paul Shapiro who leads the Museum’s Bad Arolsen project, repeatedly declined to be interviewed by this reporter.

 

http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/ibmarchive/TheCuttingEdgeNews/p33.htm

[Gibber]

I would have very much liked to introduce you to a personal friend of mine; 'Biz Ivol', unfortunently, she is no longer with us:

 

That's not true, shes still alive. I saw her recently.

 

Interesting that she would fake her own death though.

[KOYAANISQATSI]

Rules of evidence should evenly apply

 

Arguably, the most taboo topic of our time is questioning the "Holocaust." Those who do are stereotyped as "Holocaust deniers." Why? Political interests are being served and political agendas are being advanced by controlling the "rules of engagement" and publicly shaming dissenters. More recently, those who question the official explanation for the attacks of Sept. 11 have been labeled "9/11 deniers," an obvious ploy to lump 9/11 truthers into the same category of thought-criminal outcasts as "Holocaust deniers." But the attempt has not succeeded. Where people were forced to develop their opinions on world events by receiving information through a few tightly controlled sources at the end of WWII, today we have billions of websites, realtime global audio and visual satellite communications, email, myspace and YouTube. People are now able to informally apply the common sense rules of evidence to develop their own opinions about current events without being dependent on politically controlled sources of information. It is becoming apparent that governments are having a much harder time "spinning" world events in the quickly advancing information age. It is interesting to wonder whether or not the "official" Holocaust story would have survived millions of people applying the rules of evidence had it occurred during the information age.

 

Many people have the improper assumption that testimony is the highest form of evidence. No, the courts must routinely void testimony when it is not in line with the physical evidence.

Upon review of mountains of Nazi documents seized by the Allies, no orders to kill inmates at the concentration camps were found. Orders were, however, found from Heinrich Himmler and SS General Richard Glucks for the commanders of the camps to do everything possible to preserve the health of the detainees. Dr. Konrad Morgen of the Reich Criminal Police investigated 800 accusations of cruelty at their camps and obtained 200 convictions. Punishment included execution for Commandant of Majdanek-Hermann Florstedt and also Commandant of Buchenwald Karl Koch for unwarranted cruelty of inmates.

 

Were there any autopsies performed on the corpses at the concentration camps after WWII? Yes. The highly-acclaimed pathologist Dr. Charles Larson was assigned the task of overseeing the performance of autopsies on the corpses found at Nazi concentration camps by the Judge Advocate General’s Office. After overseeing thousands of autopsies he concluded that: "Not one case of death by poison gas was found."

 

These autopsy reports were not entered as evidence in the Nuremburg war crimes trials.

 

In 1,600 pages of reports of the concentration camps from the Red Cross there is, likewise, no mention of homicidal gas chambers. In fact, I personally wrote to the Red Cross in Geneva and obtained a copy of its investigation of Auschwitz for homicidal gas chambers dated September 29, 1944. The Red Cross found no homicidal gas chambers.

 

The "Holocaust" lobby claims that, at the Wannsee Conference of Jan. 1942, the Nazis established the "final solution" for the Jewish problem was gassing them to death with Zyklon B, but these documents have proven to be a hoax and would be laughed out of any courtroom. The "final solution" always was for Jews to be forced to emigrate from Germany.

 

I should add that the U.S. autopsy teams were not allowed into the eight USSR-controlled camps in Poland. Our buddies at the time, the Red Communists of the USSR, did not want the U.S. performing any autopsies in their camps. In fact, it was L.P. Beria of the NKVD (Soviet secret police predating the KGB), a Jew, who started the rumors of homicidal gas chambers in 1945. Also, the USSR never allowed Red Cross observers into their own concentration camps in the USSR as the Nazis did during the war.

 

Then there is engineer Fred Leuchter, America’s foremost expert on executions, who took a team of investigators to Auschwitz in 1988 and concluded that, with no shadow of a doubt, there were no gas execution facilities operated by the Nazis at that facility.

 

http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20070406.htm

 

"The highly-acclaimed pathologist Dr. Charles Larson was assigned the task of overseeing the performance of autopsies on the corpses found at Nazi concentration camps by the Judge Advocate General’s Office. After overseeing thousands of autopsies he concluded that: "Not one case of death by poison gas was found."

These autopsy reports were not entered as evidence in the Nuremburg war crimes trials."

 

Explain please.

[KOYAANISQATSI]

a self evident truth

 

A Factual Appraisal Of

The 'Holocaust'

By The Red Cross:

 

the tradition of the Red Cross, had been strict political neutrality, and herein lies its great value.

 

Clearly, the German authorities were at pains to relieve the dire situation as far as they were able. The Red Cross are quite explicit in stating that food supplies ceased at this time due to the Allied bombing of German transportation, and in the interests of interned Jews they had protested on March 15th, 1944 against "the barbarous aerial warfare of the Allies"

 

In dealing with this comprehensive, three-volume Report, it is important to stress that the delegates of the International Red Cross found no evidence whatever at the camps in Axis occupied Europe of a deliberate policy to exterminate the Jews. In all its 1,600 pages the Report does not even mention such a thing as a gas chamber. It admits that Jews, like many other wartime nationalities, suffered rigours and privations, but its complete silence on the subject of planned extermination is ample refutation of the Six Million legend.

 

Incidentally, it is frequently claimed that mass executions were carried out in gas chambers cunningly disguised as shower facilities. Again the Report makes nonsense of this allegation. "Not only the washing places, but installations for baths, showers and laundry were inspected by the delegates. They had often to take action to have fixtures made less primitive, and to get them repaired or enlarged"

No Evidence Of Genocide

 

http://www.rense.com/general69/factua.htm

[ArabiaTerra]

"The highly-acclaimed pathologist Dr. Charles Larson was assigned the task of overseeing the performance of autopsies on the corpses found at Nazi concentration camps by the Judge Advocate General’s Office. After overseeing thousands of autopsies he concluded that: "Not one case of death by poison gas was found."

These autopsy reports were not entered as evidence in the Nuremburg war crimes trials."

Eh,... the people who were gassed were cremated?

In fact, I personally wrote to the Red Cross in Geneva and obtained a copy of its investigation of Auschwitz for homicidal gas chambers dated September 29, 1944. The Red Cross found no homicidal gas chambers.

As if the Nazi's were going to give the Red Cross complete access to the gas chambers. The gas chambers were only a very small portion of the vast Aschwitz/Binkenau complex, easily hidden from a few "Inspectors". And anyway, if eye-witness testimony, or reports based on eye witness testimony are inadmissible for one side of the argument, they are inadmissible for both, so by your own rules of evidence this report must be dismissed as "unreliable".

[KOYAANISQATSI]

In sharp contrast to the extermination camp at Treblinka, which is in a wooded area as remote as Ted Kaczynkski's Montana cabin, the Majdanek concentration camp is situated in a major urban area, four kilometers from the city center of Lublin, and can be easily reached by trolley car. The location of the Majdanek camp is in an area of rolling terrain and can be seen from all sides; it could not be more public or accessible.

 

The Majdanek concentration camp is located in an entirely open area with no ten-foot wall around it to hide the activities inside the camp, as at Dachau. There was no security zone established around the Majdanek camp, as at Birkenau, and there is no natural protection, such as a river or a forest, as at Treblinka. Besides being bounded on the north by a busy main road, the camp was bounded on the south by two small villages named Abramowic and Dziesiata. People driving past the camp, while it was in operation, had a completely unobstructed view, being able to see the tall brick chimney of the crematorium wafting smoke from the top of a slope not far away, and the gas chamber building which is a few yards from a busy street.

 

"gas chamber building which is a few yards from a busy street"

And no one noticed all the screams of the so called victims or seen bodies dragged out.

 

Karl Otto Koch, the first Commandant of the Majdanek camp. Koch had previously been the Commandant of Buchenwald, but he was sent to Majdanek as punishment after he was arrested in Weimar for non-payment of taxes. In 1943, he was brought back to Weimar and put on trial on charges of murdering two prisoners at Buchenwald and taking bribes from Jewish prisoners. He was convicted and executed by the Nazis before the end of the war.

 

Executed by the Nazis for murdering two of the prisoners that he had been employed by the Nazis to murder by the thousands daily.

Makes sense that does.

 

The Germans honored the rules of the Geneva convention for American POWs and allowed inspections by the Red Cross, which were mandated for Prisoners of War.

All the prisoners at Majdanek were allowed to receive Red Cross packages

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/poland/majdanek/Majdanek.html

 

Marked forever as the monsters of history, yet the Germans honored the rules of the Geneva convention.

 

More than some would:

 

The Bush administration has agreed to apply the Geneva Conventions to all terrorism suspects in U.S. custody, bowing to the Supreme Court's recent rejection of policies that have imprisoned hundreds for years without trials.

Since 2002, the administration has contended that the Geneva Conventions would be respected as a matter of policy but that they did not apply by law to terrorism suspects held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, or in U.S. military custody elsewhere. Administration officials have voiced concern that the conventions are too vague and could expose the military to second-guessing about appropriate treatment.

Bush declared in the months after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon that al-Qaeda members were not entitled to the formal protections of the Geneva Conventions, siding with White House and Defense Department lawyers over objections from the State Department. But he said the prisoners would be treated humanely.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/11/AR2006071100094.html

 

Before this, if you had asked me if there should be laws against holocaust deniers; I'd have said why not just shoot them in the face. One less Nazi to breath our air. Now the whole thing just makes me feel quite ill at the scale of the propaganda and lies and I'm not going to sit as a target for a world incapable of doing their own unbiased research and frankly there's a nasty stink hanging over the thread which makes reasonable debate impossible.

Feel free though to give me or any of my dead friends you can dig up whatever slaggings you feel are apt, be sure I don't give a s%!t.