redrobbie Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 BASC response to the consultation document http://www.basc.org.uk/en/shooting/airgunning/airgun-licensing-BASC-view.cfm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 ... if you add the 250,000 people who own shotguns and rifles in Scotland to the 500,000 who own airguns .That makes a grand total of 750,000 gun owners in Scotland...Hmmm. I don't think that is a sound assumption. Surely there is likely to be quite a sizable overlap, with many of the powder gun owners also owning airguns. Nevertheless, half a million is quite a number, and the proposed legislation is, to my mind, half baked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandma Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Kenny makaskill is also on record as saying that there is no place in modern Scotland for 500,000 air guns .Why not? if they are used in a safe and responsible manner. Rember only 195 offences last year in whole of Scotland. Does Kenny think its ok to have 2.7 million cars in Scotland which were involved in 333,660 offences recorded last year.Should drivers have to prove a ''need'' before they get granted a licence. gafynandrew 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrobbie Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Strange that the SNP excluded the SCOTTISH association for country sports [sACS] from the consultation committee but included the BRITISH association for shooting and conversation [bASC] I think Kenny makaskill should explain why he prefers a British association to a Scottish one to represent airgun owners on what is after all a proposed law change in Scotland. gafynandrew 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorrie Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Strange that the SNP excluded the SCOTTISH association for country sports [sACS] from the consultation committee but included the BRITISH association for shooting and conversation [bASC] I think Kenny makaskill should explain why he prefers a British association to a Scottish one to represent airgun owners on what is after all a proposed law change in Scotland. Because it makes it easier for dull-witted people to go against the anti legislation lobby in Scotland. Another example of what the SNP thinks of the political nous of their followers...... 'British' = They're all baddies. Must disagree with them. 'Scottish' = They're all goodies. Therefore must agree with them. Cynical manouvering by the SNP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wullie m. Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 These figures are a complete fantasy, nobody knows how many airguns are in Scotland.Personally I don't know anybody who, to my knowledge, owns an airgun. wullie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Para Handy Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 So the prats are coming to Shetland what a waist of moneyhttp://www.shetnews.co.uk/newsbites/6671-the-cabinet-s-coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wullie m. Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 "A waist of money?" Para. Another incident at the weekend, some chaps playing hockey were shot at by some scruff with an air-rifle in Aberdeen. Much as one might think that chaps playing hockey deserve all they get, it will not do at all. Yes they could of course have been assaulted with tattie peelers or heated rollers, both of which are readily available in many homes, which mitigates the circumstances somewhat, but an air-rifle it was. wullie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wullie m. Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 "A waist of money?" Para, hard to stomach! Another incident at the weekend, some chaps playing hockey in Aberdeen were shot at by some scruff with an air-rifle. Much as one might think that chaps playing hockey deserve all they get, it will not do at all. Yes they could of course have been assaulted with tattie peelers or heated rollers, both of which are readily available in many homes, which mitigates the circumstances somewhat, but an air-rifle it was. wullie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 "A waist of money?" Para, hard to stomach!wullie. Just like a dog marking it's territory by pishing against a post.. Just trying to make us feel 'included' before the referendum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owre-weel Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 "A waist of money?" Para, hard to stomach!wullie. Just like a dog marking it's territory by pishing against a post.. Just trying to make us feel 'included' before the referendum...du's absolutely right Colin, the only thing is that this dog is liable to turn around and bite us in da ers, when it suits him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrobbie Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Link to STV report on Aberdeen incident http://local.stv.tv/aberdeen/news/222376-aberdeen-sports-village-is-increasing-security-after-hockey-incident/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matlo Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 The STV report says a BB gun.Would that be covered by the new rules on air rifles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 The STV report says a BB gun.Would that be covered by the new rules on air rifles?If the only information provided was that it was a BB gun, then that would not be sufficient to say. This is because there are BB guns which are powerful enough to be covered, as well as feebler ones which would not. However, the report states that the BBs were metal and that indicates that the weapon(s) are indeed within the more powerful category. Airsoft guns, which use larger plastic BBs, are lower powered, far less dangerous and subject to different legislation. One of the weirder aspects of the completely non-joined-up-thinking which currently prevails is that the airsoft weapons have to be non-realistic (brightly coloured or clear), but more powerful airguns can be realistically coloured. Mind you, there are defences available for airsoft players to buy/use realistic airsoft guns which are not too hard to achieve, though fairly costly. It is, frankly, a shambles, and the proposed SNP licensing does not look like providing any worthwhile benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wullie m. Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 The Scottish Cabinet has met in places other than Edinburgh for some time noo. This reminds them that Edinburgh is not the centre of the universe, seems that it's Shetlands turn. I've seen a post on here pointing out that Alex Salmond never comes to Shetland and now that he is coming, the complaints are that it's a "waist" sic, of money. wullie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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