SNP - Proposed airgun legislation

[redrobbie]

There is no ban on air weapons that resemble hand guns. The images I posted are Roman current on line supplier. You can also get hand guns that use compressed air that need a firearms license. Get reading.

Link please .

 

You cannot be that inept you cannot find these.

 

I have no problem with sports using guns, I do not see a reason why they need to look like something far more dangerous.

 

As for banning toys, if that is the best argument you have against the proposed registration of air weapons, you may need to get reading and find out a little more. [You rightly point out that some airpistols look like ''real'' guns .I merely provided a link to show you that equally realistic toy guns are available which fire nothing .Where do you draw the line.Would you like anything that resembled a real gun banned ie airguns, plastic guns,water pistols?]

 

 

I agree I was mistaken about air hand guns over 6lbs, alas, still does not justify the hand guns on offer looking like live round counterparts, absolutely no requirement. The do not enhance the performance of the weapon.

[shetlandpeat]

You have proved nothing that has not been in the media before and dealt with, however, going by your link, you will need a minimum of 72 plastic toy gun armed folk as that is the minimum purchase. As there are 72 of them in your toy gun army, we will know it is you. At 50,000 a week, you could overthrow all the Scottish based infantry and take over yourself.

http://www.goplasticarmy.com/resources/logo.jpg.opt356x267o0,0s356x267.jpg

 

If the consultation decrees that there is a consensus to some sort of registration, then so be it. After all, it is sanctioned by the Queen.

This argument you are perusing is pointless. I suggest you do some volunteering in deprived sections of the community to find the real issues that folk will be interested in, advocating a free for all with air weapons, as it is now may not be the burning issue.

[owre-weel]

This argument you are perusing is pointless. I suggest you do some volunteering in deprived sections of the community to find the real issues that folk will be interested in, advocating a free for all with air weapons, as it is now may not be the burning issue.

 

And yet, alas, burning enough for you to make 13 post over 4 pages Pete

[shetlandpeat]

Pointless arguments now, after witnessing first hand the damage a .22 can do to a childs face, I find it reprehensible that control of such air weapons has been turned into a troll spat which really has nothing to do with the SNP, this then is #14.

 

Great you now count my posts, must be an interesting hobby, me.

[owre-weel]

Pointless arguments now, after witnessing first hand the damage a .22 can do to a childs face, I find it reprehensible that control of such air weapons has been turned into a troll spat which really has nothing to do with the SNP, this then is #14.

 

Great you now count my posts, must be an interesting hobby, me.

 

And no doubt you will post many more!

 

I have found the discussions both for and against quite informative, and in my opinion the issue is how this has been handled by the SNP. Consultation should mean consultation.

 

So it has everything to do with the SNP. Would be interesting to find out who you are accusing of being trolls though!

[paulb]

yet this control wont effect where you live.

 

its not a free for all

to buy an air rifle

you must be 18, have id with proof of address, must not be banned from owning one by criminal convictions. weapon must be secured/locked away.

 

then all the list of using and carrying comes into play.

 

you can't buy one via the internet unless its delivered to a firearms dealer. so no kid should have access to them. if so the owner should be done as well.

[mikeyboy]

Can you post a link to that air weapon supplier Peat? I am to inept to find it.

Unless of course they are airsoft guns?

[shetlandpeat]

The link is within the image address. Quote the Post with the image and all will be revealed. A Walther P range is an 8 shot repeater powered with co2 canister. Which is one of the images. You may not be inept but have a lack of training. Though a simple search will do the same.

[mikeyboy]

Ahh Thanks for that I have it now.

I had searched all my usual suppliers but couldn't find those.

I fancied the M1 carbine but turns out it is only an airsoft gun so no good to me.

[redrobbie]

Yet again Scotland and the Scottish people are being used as a guinea pig for new legislation .Kenny Makaskill is on record as saying that their are many communities in Scotland that are blighted with airgun crime with only 195 ''incidents '' involving airguns in the whole of Scotland last year this is patent nonsense .He should be asked were are these communities? and be made to prove his statements.

[redrobbie]

The death of the toddler which I mentioned, brought increased pressure on the government to act, Westminster did nothing but passed the buck. Licensing is coming, long overdue some will say, and the parents of this kid have campaigned endlessly for licensing since the death of their son who was taken to an ice cream van by his brother and shot by an air-rifle from the cover of a house. According to the clown who fired the shot, he was aiming at the van for a laugh, some laugh, perhaps some of the posters on here would like to reflect on what their views might be if it was their own son.

Licensing is coming, no matter what, get used to the idea. No doubt the details of who is a fit and proper person to own an airgun will be decided in the bill.

 

Regarding Red Robbie who quotes the Daily Mail, this was a Fascist paper before the war, it campaigned on behalf of Mosley and the Fuhrer, it should have been shut down after VE night. My grannie wouldn't even have used squares of this tripe in the lavvy. Still seems to be selling well best selling sunday newspaper and 2 best selling daily paper http://www.thepaperboy.com/uk-top-10-newspapers.cfm as for Mosley wasnt he a Labour MP

 

Wullie

[shetlandpeat]

^ you need to work on your posts. You are just quoting folk then adding to their quote.

 

separate please.

[redrobbie]

Sorry my mistake not sure how i managed that.Anyway i see the SNP are up in arms about the bedroom tax yet they want to introduce what will in effect be an airgun tax on 500,000 people in Scotland.

[mate64]

an airgun tax on 500,000 people in Scotland.

 

So that's 1 in 10 of us got a gun. Maybe the SNP are on to something.

[redrobbie]

Its a lot more than that if you add the 250,000 people who own shotguns and rifles in Scotland to the 500,000 who own airguns .That makes a grand total of 750,000 gun owners in Scotland a sizable percentage of the voting population of Scotland .Its a mystery why the SNP choose now just before the independence referendum to piss them off.