owre-weel Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 It was bound to happen as there are all these lovely parking spaces standing empty most of the time. The council must be so pleased with themselves, pity they couldn't do something about the parking in the town centre though. Oh wait, that would be a positive thing, something they struggle with. trooter and Equality Street 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Equality Street Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) I thought the 'car-mile' thing was an excellent example of how a community can independently decided on a simple and effective way of trading vehicles. It evolved organically over about 20 years and for no commercial gain. All the bluster and pedantic legalese that's being spouted by some smacks of bandwagon jumping and a seemingly perverse enjoyment of seeing petty bureaucracy triumph over the common man. I'm on the look out for a new car myself, but will probably just go doon sooth like everyone else. Who knows though, if their were some sort of public area where all the cars for sale locally could be quickly looked at perhaps a bargain might have caught my eye. Shame. Edited January 5, 2014 by Horns 'O' Da Geo unlinkedstudent, kl250, crofter and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooter Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 During my searches on this law, all I could find was that the motor trade couldn't have 2 cars parked within a certain distance on a stretch of road. Couldn't see anything stopping Joe Blogs putting a car for sale on a public road, but perhaps just didn't find the correct article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urabug Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 This is where all the buses are going to queue to drop off & pick up the bairns when the new school is built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twerto Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 This is where all the buses are going to queue to drop off & pick up the bairns when the new school is built. No its not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 During my searches on this law, all I could find was that the motor trade couldn't have 2 cars parked within a certain distance on a stretch of road. Couldn't see anything stopping Joe Blogs putting a car for sale on a public road, but perhaps just didn't find the correct article.It is part of the Street Traders Licensing that S.I.C. is responsible for. The Act defines 'street trading' as doing any of the following things in a public place: (a) hawking, selling or offering or exposing for sale any article; and( offering to carry out or carrying out for money any service; to any person in the public place and it includes doing any of these things in or from a vehicle, kiosk or moveable stall which is not entered in the valuation roll.Adverising a vehicle from your drive you can do, not on the public highway, unless you have the correct license. To obtain a licence you would need to satisfy certain legal obligations, ie Public Liability Insurance and the such. You can get further details from the S.I.C. offices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fionajohn Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 this is typical of the local business establishment holding power over our elected members of the council they can dictate the rules and the council will bow to their demands the only winners are the ferry operators and the mainland motor trade who will sell their wares and the private sellers have a larger audience for second hand vehicles most shelties are very carefull about money and i know of some who also get their mot.s down the road as the garages here cow tow to the god of ministry of transport Equality Street 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 It was brought in by the 1982 Conservative Government, SIC resolved it in Feb 1997. It is a catch all law. The MOT thing happens in the western isles too, I know folk who come down to West Lancs to get their car serviced and MOT'd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 The Act defines 'street trading' as doing any of the following things in a public place: (a) hawking, selling or offering or exposing for sale any article; and( offering to carry out or carrying out for money any service; to any person in the public place and it includes doing any of these things in or from a vehicle, kiosk or moveable stall which is not entered in the valuation roll. Any chance of a link to the relevant Section of this alleged "Act" you claim to be quoting from, so that folk can peruse it in context. The above wording taken as a stand alone statement would mean every grasscutter, builder, painter, telecom engineer, satellite installer etc, etc would need to be a licenced "street trader". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Already published... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 ^ Where, exactly? I see no link, as requested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike5 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 The Act defines 'street trading' as doing any of the following things in a public place: (a) hawking, selling or offering or exposing for sale any article; and( offering to carry out or carrying out for money any service; to any person in the public place and it includes doing any of these things in or from a vehicle, kiosk or moveable stall which is not entered in the valuation roll. I wonder if there is a precedence of this having been used in court in the context in which we are applying it.If a private individual has a for sale notice displayed in a single vehicle which is road taxed, insured, with MOT and is parked legally I do not see that this falls foul of this legislation. This is intended to apply to someone carrying on an unlicenced business (the clue is in the words street trading) and in my opinion any attempt to prosecute someone selling a single privately owned car would be thrown out by the judge. trooter and crofter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) From what I have read, this act stops folk trading or plying trade on the highways. You can signwrite a vehicle, but cannot advertise that vehicle for sale. A garage near us has done that to a van, although an eyesore, he is OK to signwright his MOT business with an arrow on the Taxed, tasted, legally parked road worthy vehicle. Perhaps someone should test it! As for the link, I have already posted the link before, on these pages. Edited January 6, 2014 by shetlandpeat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 As for the link, I have already posted the link before, on these pages. Best try posting it again then Peat and stop the stalling, as your alleged "link" seems to have gone AWOL while your back was turned. The only links you have posted on this thread I can find are to Notes based on the SIC's interpretation of legislation, Notes based on the Government's interpretation of road signage legislation, and to a 2005 Act that is applicable to only England and Wales. While the first may have some bearing on the situation (subject to independent legal advice), the second has minimal, and the latter absolutely zero. Your back up your stance in this debate with a the quote from an unidentified source in post #96, alleging it is the wording of part of some unspecified statute, and make a statement in post #98 allegedly referencing some un-named statute allegedly enacted in 1982. Link(s) to the exact and full wording of both of these statutes (or the single statute if both are from the same source) in their entirety, or your quote and statement have no credibility and cannot be interpreted correctly anyway without the benefit of being analysed in their original context. Not hard Peat, presumably you found the statute(s) to be able to allegedly quote from them/it and name them/it?? Finding them/it again and copying/pasting the page URL(s) in to a post is as easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Park at Lochside. Take photograph. Place on Facebook/here/wherever "This is my vehicle when parked at Lochside". Whack your mobile phone number on a small card/sticky on a side window (so as to not cause obstruction to vision for driving). Park again at Lochside. It isn't illegal to have your mobile phone number on your car. It's not your fault if somebody happens to call you up to enquire as to whether your vehicle is for sale. I mean, it wasn't, but if someone wants to offer you cash. bruckbox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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