Para Handy Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Why can't the barges be tied up inside the oil terminalThere dont seem to be many Tankers these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Too many biggoted opinions on here. Don't be so hard on yourself, Peat. A reasonable retort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 http://photos.shetland-museum.org.uk/image.php?i=31728&r=2&t=4&x=1 - The Camp at Graven back in the 1930's to 50's http://photos.shetland-museum.org.uk/image.php?i=84465&r=2&t=4&x=1 - Entertainment in the Camp at Graven, Airmen and Civilians Between 1939 and 1940 the personnel accomodation was set up in an ocean liner, the SS 'Manela'. They moved out of the ship when a camp was established at nearby Graven. from http://www.forgottenairfields.com/united-kingdom/scotland/orkney-and-shetland/raf-scatsta-and-raf-sullum-voe-s867.html I was looking at the history of Graven - because I wondered what all the ruined buildings were about, and found all this! Seems the same stuff was going on nearly 80 years ago. I wonder if any of the locals objected to it all back then? But I would think everyone was a lot better behaved back then anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Our Grandad was based there during the War as well as a great uncle. Knowing them, there would have been some fun and games. I had is billet pointed out to me once on a run out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 I was looking at the history of Graven - because I wondered what all the ruined buildings were about, and found all this! Seems the same stuff was going on nearly 80 years ago. I wonder if any of the locals objected to it all back then? But I would think everyone was a lot better behaved back then anyway This was the situation all over Shetland, the resident population was outnumbered several to one, but it was wartime, there was a curfew (apparently us locals having significant historic German connections, and being "reluctant" Scots "weren't to be entirely trusted" (allegedly)), and military socialising outside the camps was strictly limited, as was locals within them. Very difficult to see any real comparison with current "peace time" attitudes and the far freer flow of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 I was just trying to lighten the situation a bit, it just made me smile the 'similarities' although nearly 80 years ago, and yes I know we're in completely different times. But, there's always been numbers of people living in camps and things here. That's not changed, but the people coming in to work, and the people living here, their attitudes and behaviour have very much changed as has society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engineer21 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 whats been going on up there today?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 I was just trying to lighten the situation a bit, it just made me smile the 'similarities' although nearly 80 years ago, and yes I know we're in completely different times. But, there's always been numbers of people living in camps and things here. That's not changed, but the people coming in to work, and the people living here, their attitudes and behaviour have very much changed as has society. Agreed, if its not been fish that dragged massive numbers of folk here to work, its been wars, or oil, and now gas, it stretches back for centuries, as does some faction of local society getting their noses put out of joint over it as a result. If it should be nothing more than the powers that be in Scalloway twice ordering that the dens of iniquity that then had begun to spring up along what is now Commercial Street in response to the numbers of Dutch herring men anchoring in the Sound, be razed to the ground. The herring boom years of the late 19th and early 20th Century seemed to pass without significant harm, as did two wars and the oil construction phase. Whether that was due to a greater Police presence and a Police presence being introduced where particular concentrations of incomers were, or the military effectively being in charge, or just things working themselves out naturally, who knows. Whether this time is different, and people are more intolerant and dispresectful on one or both sides, or some are just panicing as they see no change or increase in Policing to prevent anything starting, despite a sudden population growth, I'd not like to try and make a call on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleJoannie Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Why can't the barges be tied up inside the oil terminalThere dont seem to be many Tankers these days. They had two ships tied up there for accomodation during the construction phase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infiltrator Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 ^COMAH puts a stop to any accomodation anywhere near the terminal, given the new accomodation block at Sella Ness I'd guess that's about as close as they can get - and then moorings and services become the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleJoannie Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 I suspected that would be the case. The two boats were gone by the time the terminal opened for business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanofNess Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 Had a bit of a think about how to deal with aggressive behaviour off the workers you need to get a dude like this http://t.qkme.me/3uwog0.jpg Alas bouncers aren't allowed to rip out an aggressive drunks throat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundview Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I live in Mossbank and am in Brae a lot, haven't seen any trouble. Lets be honest here, there were fights and other issues before the gas plant started to be built, it's not like the mid brae inn and lights were havens of virtue before 2012! My only complaint is the twits that pull out in front of me coming from the sella ness camp then proceed at 40 mph all the way to Brae! I'm sure they think the whole area from brae to Sullom Voe is their building site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siccar Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 It his ta be kinda funny when da incomers complain aboot da incomers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Had a bit of a think about how to deal with aggressive behaviour off the workers you need to get a dude like this http://t.qkme.me/3uwog0.jpg Alas bouncers aren't allowed to rip out an aggressive drunks throat Yup, ghosts wull sort it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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