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Shetland has been through several changes e.g. fishing, oil & gas and has proven that it is capable of adapting to significant change.

 

 

Shetland's also been through all of the changes that have affected the UK and indeed the global community. Disentangling the effects of those from the effects of purely local changes may not always be easy. What's your methodology for dealing with that problem?

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I am trying to understand the process, what went well, what could be improved, what did the community expect in terms of change, was public opinion sought and if so how was it gathered?

 

As a community who has been and is going through change any comments/opinions you have good and bad would be really appreciated.

 

 

I cannot see the point you are trying to make US. It is already agreed by the OP that Shetland HAS already adapted to changes, looking at the quote above, the OP is wanting folks experiences on this to see how Shetland and the folk adapted. There is no malice in the OP post or even conspiracy.

 

This is an interesting subject of which I hope to contribute in my own way.

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@JGHR

 

... has proven that it is capable of adapting to significant change.

 

Are you disputing this in some way?

 

If so what significant change in particular do you think Shetland has been incapable of adapting to?

 

If not what is your point?

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@JGHR

 

... has proven that it is capable of adapting to significant change.

 

Are you disputing this in some way?

 

If so what significant change in particular do you think Shetland has been incapable of adapting to?

 

If not what is your point?

 

The OP is making a leading statement by saying this. Proven to whom? The OP then goes onto say "what went well".

 

If this was a project/dissertation, etc., by a student from degree level upwards, it would never get accepted by firstly their supervising tutor (re has proven and the rest of the question) and secondly, by the University's Ethics Committee - basic skills for use once you've finished university.

 

Research I've happily conducted in usually, as the accepted norm, states "We're carrying out research on behalf of [a financial institution/name of organisation/insert name], you sign a consent form and have the right to withdraw your consent. Internet research on public forums is not accepted as being ethical. Whilst the OP states "Any information posted will only be used to analyse and trend the common experiences across different communities and will not be specifically quoted or published." - I suspect that whilst it may not be published in the public domain, the data will be used/analysed/published for internal use.

 

@SP - for all you know, this could be research conducted on behalf of the tory party by a consultancy.

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@SP - for all you know, this could be research conducted on behalf of the tory party by a consultancy.

 

I am not so anal as to worry about that, no matter what the political party, sometimes they have to do the right thing. I doubt the party in question would try this to get a foothold in Scotland or use it to go against the YES vote wanted by that other right of centre party.

 

Alas, this an anonymous forum. So, any statements of a personal nature would be against your screen name, after comments made by all of us in the past that in others opinions are crass, why the worry?

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Hi FiCam28, thanks for sharing a bit more.

 

Way to go unlinkedstudent for being sae döl aboot hit. Perhaps not the best way to engender what could have been a very interesting thread :roll:

 

Anyway, FiCam28, I guess making a first stab at addressing any points you already understand we could attempt to utilise this medium to affect. Transparency works well in cases such as these.

 

Thanks.

 

I would guess that it is not a problem.

 

If you do have a problem with it, then speak to this person http://www.shetlink.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=3

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Isn't it against Shetlink's T&Cs/Privacy Policy to use data off this site without their permission? The OP hasn't specifically asked for people to pm them.

 

Now everybody is starting to argue over something that 'may' turn out to be quite innocent and, possibly, quite interesting. (Het's de Shetlink way du kens...(No apologies for any grammatical or other errors but, any corrections would be appreciated...))

 

OP seems to have disappeared as well.

 

All 'I' really want is a 'come clean' type post from the OP telling us who employs them (not that important) and, who has engaged the consultancy. I will then make my decision as to whether or not I wish to engage. Simple really.

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Colin, my reply was in response to SP's post.

 

I'm actually in agreement with you too, it may well be very interesting and likewise, I want a 'come clean' post.

 

Trout did ask for clarification from the OP ... perhaps the OP has to wait until Monday for a decision from the peeps engaging them and in turn 'it' (the consultancy) from their client before they can answer with more concise details.

 

Edit: and SP, it's not the "worry". Besides, I've no need to contact Admin, given Trout's status. Where would Shetlink be without Trout? :wink:

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Hi folks,

 

I have recently moved to Shetland and am doing some research into "change in the community" and wonder if anyone has any thoughts or experience of how Shetland has adapted to change over the years in respect to continual regeneration of the communities and economy.

 

Regeneration? Not everyone would agree that this is an appropriate term. Perhaps something like "diversification/expansion of the economy and its effect upon communities" would be a more accurate statement?

 

Shetland has been through several changes e.g. fishing, oil & gas and has proven that it is capable of adapting to significant change.

 

Really?? Upon what evidence do you base this conclusion? You may wish to consider a description something along the lines of "capable of survival this far, despite the changes they've been lumbered with" as an equally plausible alternative.

 

I am trying to understand the process, what went well, what could be improved, what did the community expect in terms of change, was public opinion sought and if so how was it gathered?

 

There was a "process"?? If so, I must have missed it. I'd describe it more as a random piecemeal creation by numerous entities of facilities in response to circumstances that they wanted/believed they needed/believed they saw an opportunity to profit from. What the community expected I doubt can be answered on anything but a personal level, but the most prevailing attitude I ever met was of "well, lets just see what happens......"

 

Change has been constant for centuries, and while the subject matter would differ, I doubt if the opinions of folk in general really differ whether you pose these questions now or had posed them to the population in 1913, or 1813, or 1713....

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Firstly I would like to thank Infiltrator for the link, much appreciated and very useful – book now ordered from Amazon.

 

Thanks also to everyone else for their positive and not so positive comments, always makes for good healthy discussion.

 

This is my first time using one of these forums and I appreciate that I obviously didn’t word my initial post well aka Trout’s request for clarification, something I tried to do with my subsequent one. I have tried to clarify as best I can but I will add there is no political organisational involvement nor is it Shetland specific.

 

I, like everyone else, can Google “Shetland regeneration†and be presented with a wheen of information about Oil and Gas, diversity in fishing, improved transportation links to the Scottish mainland etc. but the people who have the best knowledge and understanding of what works and doesn’t are the people who live here and have been through it.

 

Having moved here recently and seen how valuable a website Shetlink is I thought this forum would be a good and interesting medium to use to ask local people for their opinions. From existing posts it is clear that not everyone thinks Shetland has adapted.

 

I am not asking for hard facts, I am just interested in people’s general experiences and opinions good and bad. There is no malice or conspiracy in my questions but I understand and respect each individual’s decision to partake or not.

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^ Now I'm just confused ....

 

Your OP could be read either way, your initial follow up seemed to state quite plainly that you are hired to undertake work that spawned your OP, and your above reply seems to generally follow your OP's theme of some parts suggesting personal interest, and some parts suggesting acting on behalf of another.

 

Okay, I appreciate you state its "not poltical" (notwithstanding that the definition "political" is generally subjective), but that still leaves a quite wide field. Are you talking commercial enterprise, third sector, religious, or what?

 

Why the indecision/secrecy? Is it asking too much to get a straight answer as to what entity (if any) wishes to pick our collective brains?

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