wotsit Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 So exactly why are these incidents and footage not shown, give more balance. It puts a whole new slant on things can you blame any country not wanting these people we see above. It is very disturbing. You throw your papers away and just say your Syrian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotsit Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 So where exactly are donations from Shetland going to ? Calais not where it is needed, helping to support thriving black market. If I was going to send donations I would want to make sure it was going into the hands of the right people guaranteed. Your going to help people who do not need it, making the situation worse. Look what little respect they have of other countries . I just hope the channel tunnel is heavily guarded at both ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjasga Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 I don't post much nowadays but just wanted to share these two videos. http://conservativepost.com/and-so-it-beginsisis-flag-among-refugees-in-germany-fighting-the-police-pictures/ I appreciate some of the footage is not brand new but some of it is. The first image is at youngest from 2014, and could be even older. It has absolutely nothing to do with refugees but to Islamic communities already living in Germany: http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4342/germany-salafism So the claims of "ISIS flags among refugees" is just complete and utter nonsense, but Gosh, I wonder why "Conservative Post" would lie? As for the videos, they seem to be legitimate. I disagree with the longer videos premise, as many of the clips shown did receive worldwide coverage. I have certainly seen the clip of young boys 'stealing' the bag from the man who attempts to give a donation. Obviously it's not behaviour that should be encouraged or even particularly tolerated, but it's hardly a shock that people who have been through these sorts of conditions resort to that sort of thing. In that particular example, they're teenage boys who have essentially been locked in a train station for - in some cases - several weeks. I imagine that sort of thing is just a bit of devilment to amuse themselves, God knows there isn't much else for them to be doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotsit Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 No, they should have manners referring to the sandwich incident. They were not desperate otherwise they would all be there trying to grab, downright greedy and rude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B/M/S Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 BBC News is garbage Kavi Ugl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capeesh Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 I don't post much nowadays but just wanted to share these two videos.http://conservativepost.com/and-so-it-beginsisis-flag-among-refugees-in-germany-fighting-the-police-pictures/I appreciate some of the footage is not brand new but some of it is.Interesting website, I scrolled down to the comments section of that link to check what type of people they attract, sadly I wasn't surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjasga Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) No, they should have manners referring to the sandwich incident. They were not desperate otherwise they would all be there trying to grab, downright greedy and rude. Everybody should have manners, but anybody struggling to come up with a reason these people might not at the moment - other than 'they're bad people' - isn't all that empathetic. Edited September 14, 2015 by hjasga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B/M/S Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 I don't think you spent very long reading the comments section on that site, its clear you obviously have an opinion that is subjective and anything contrary to that is shot down in flames Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavi Ugl Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Scrolling down and reading the comments of a few people doesn't detract from the reality of what's happening. The MSM are a disgrace and the biased, one-sided image(mostly of children) being promoted is shameful and it's going to end in tears. I suspect we would feel very much different if 800 people arrived off the North Boat one morning expecting us to house and feed them. Sadly that's the reality of what these other countries like Hungary, Austria and Germany are facing, the only difference is it's thousands of people. One wonders just what they expect arriving in a foreign country with no job, no accomodation and no-where to go. If you watch this video(4.35) it shows how many of the immigrants have the latest mobile phones and use them to pass on the latest tips and information about the best routes to take. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn62ovaAQKs Edited September 14, 2015 by Kavi Ugl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjasga Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Yeah, it's the "MSM" that are biased and not the outlet you've linked who falsely attribute old images to the current humanitarian crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavi Ugl Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 The MSM are certainly not reporting the whole truth. The videos/outlets I've linked to are showing what the MSM won't. Images from 2014 are not old - it was only last year for goodness sake!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotsit Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Patience is running out for certain amount of these people.They are trashing other countries with little no respect why should they have to put with this unacceptable behaviour despite even some trying to help.Would we really what this on the streets of the UK, people have a right to be very worried right now, I'm sure Shetland would be delighted to have couple thousand trash Shetland and start demanding the odds, but in reality would never happen here so it will be other areas of the UK that would have to put with any problems that arise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjasga Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 The MSM are certainly not reporting the whole truth. The videos/outlets I've linked to are showing what the MSM won't. Images from 2014 are not old - it was only last year for goodness sake!.They are not just old but completely unrelated, the people pictured are not refugees. The videos shown include various clips covered by the "MSM". As I've already pointed out, the video of the group of teens grabbing the bag off a man donating items was well circulated and on every major news channel I can think of. I had seen quite a few others too. Let's not pretend this side of the story isn't getting its fair share of air time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotsit Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 To be honest I don't think it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjasga Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Patience is running out for certain amount of these people.They are trashing other countries with little no respect why should they have to put with this unacceptable behaviour despite even some trying to help.Would we really what this on the streets of the UK, people have a right to be very worried right now, I'm sure Shetland would be delighted to have couple thousand trash Shetland and start demanding the odds, but in reality would never happen here so it will be other areas of the UK that would have to put with any problems that arise.They're not trashing countries. Extremely concentrated areas have experienced riot like trouble. These things happen, you're talking about pressure points where literally thousands of people have reached a bottleneck in a desperate journey away from conditions we can barely imagine. It would be like these people arriving in Lerwick and the Victoria Pier getting a good bashing - not all of Shetland turning into a warzone. The vast, vast majority of these people are respectful, honest people who are in desperate need of support from the rest of the world. These attempts to dehumanise them, and paint them as ill-manned, hostile thugs, is really disgusting to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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