shetlandpeat Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 The skip is for their general waste, it stops it from being strewn all over. If you did not have rubbish collection, I would understand your point, but, as these folks are so obviously folk who move around, there can be little chance of the council issuing them with a FPN for littering. However, the council will still have to clear up the rubbish, and probably at greater costs.As for your comments about those who do not pay for services should not use them, If any travellers or anyone else are coming to Shetland and carrying out work, which they are being paid for, then they should be paying for any services provided, like the rest of us. If you meant something else, then say it, as it reads, if anyone comes to Shetland, gets paid for a job, they should pay for the services. Like the rest of us.The inference there is, that these folk you talk about do not contribute like you do and are possibly different. I find it a little odd for you to be saying such a statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post owre-weel Posted January 21, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 The skip is for their general waste, it stops it from being strewn all over. If you did not have rubbish collection, I would understand your point, but, as these folks are so obviously folk who move around, there can be little chance of the council issuing them with a FPN for littering. However, the council will still have to clear up the rubbish, and probably at greater costs.As for your comments about those who do not pay for services should not use them, If any travellers or anyone else are coming to Shetland and carrying out work, which they are being paid for, then they should be paying for any services provided, like the rest of us. If you meant something else, then say it, as it reads, if anyone comes to Shetland, gets paid for a job, they should pay for the services. Like the rest of us.The inference there is, that these folk you talk about do not contribute like you do and are possibly different. I find it a little odd for you to be saying such a statement.As expected Pete you take things out of context to meet your argument. But to ensure I don't get sucked into a debate with you and off the topic, like you usually do with most threads, I'll let you think you must be right and not contribute further to this thread. See Pete you win again. You must be so proud.,! Bye! gafynandrew, CHUCK NORR1S, Aaron Foord and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 To be honest, I have no feelings about this what so ever apart from, as soon as travellers are mentioned, it becomes them and us. However, as I said, if these folks are causing problems, let the authorities deal with them and the courts make judgement. A bit extreme though, to prevent entry, how will that be done?I am sure the S.I.C. is aware of what is going on and will be working with other authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Council tax is expected to be paid on official sites for travellers. There's probably some EU law/human rights thingy adopted in Scottish law stating what services travellers are entitled to be provided with by a local authority; no doubt a certain poster will use their favourite online search engine and perhaps manage a correct quote via it. owre-weel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 A bit extreme though, to prevent entry, how will that be done? Back in the first Sullom boom days the local Constabulary were (allegedly) quite adept at "returning to sender" on the next boat out anyone they considered a problem waiting to happen - best ask them what statutes and mechanism they employed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 With the freedom of movement to look for work it may be a difficult one to do now. Especially if you are just stopping those who could claim to be Irish and travellers. It could be done via other methods but could really target individuals.Many things went on in the 70s some good some bad. I doubt the Police will divulge, you could ask Angus though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian.smith Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) That is just sh1te. I have done work on in Shetland, I have used the services, you gonna send me a bill for those services. I pay general taxationI pay towards the NHS Or is this another generalisation saying that travellers do not pay tax! Shame on you for suggesting that. yes but were you staying in your main place of residence Edited January 22, 2014 by brian.smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ghostrider Posted January 22, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I doubt the Police will divulge, you could ask Angus though. No Peat, you ask Angus. You asked: A bit extreme though, to prevent entry, how will that be done? I told you where to possibly find an answer to your question. I already know the answer to it, I don't need to ask again, you, by default of asking apparently don't know the answer, and I'm not about to be your gopher. owre-weel, brian.smith and shetlandpeat 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooklechorlie Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 they have been up round wir hoose in brae today and am led to believe that the Groundforce lot have a tie in / partnership going wi the local Jewson manager, Stephen laidlaw, as they have his name and number on da back o der new businesss cards,who knows, maybe even he asked them to come back so they got more sales and work oot o Shetland themselves? bloody sooth mother!!! at least wi that you hae a local face to go an moan tae when it all goes wrong care in da community n all that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleJoannie Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 The Last 'Respectable' form of Racism http://www.grtleeds.co.uk/information/raceIssues.html ArabiaTerra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 they have been up round wir hoose in brae today and am led to believe that the Groundforce lot have a tie in / partnership going wi the local Jewson manager, Stephen laidlaw, as they have his name and number on da back o der new businesss cards,who knows, maybe even he asked them to come back so they got more sales and work oot o Shetland themselves? bloody sooth mother!!! at least wi that you hae a local face to go an moan tae when it all goes wrong care in da community n all that You've no proof that there is a connection. It's an old trick to make out a relationship exists when one doesn't. Have you phoned Jewson's and enquired if they are aware of these business cards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middlin Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 They were in Tingwall this afternoon. The chap who came to my door was very polite and not at all pushy when I told him I wasn't interested. He said they were ground force and were here last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fionajohn Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 when travellers move into a council area they should be rounded up and charged £100 per head to pay for the local services they will use on their stay i am sure king salmon would approve an it may encourage them to move on jj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachcaster Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I see one of the caravans at Rova Head has been demolished by the wind, the body has been ripped clean off the chassis and has been reduced to splinters. Coming to Shetland in January in a flimsy caravan was probably the best idea they ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 ^ This was not unexpected, Rova Head was always a windy hol fae aesterly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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