Scorrie Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 http://youtu.be/uD5Roi27YHM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owre-weel Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Fine, close my account or ban me. I'm sick to death of SP's constant personal attacks and Mods doing sweet FA about it.Know the feeling unlinked, I'm thinking to close my account as well. Totally fed up with a certain nip picker, who seems to be looking for an argument all the time, rather than a good discussion. All it does is put folk off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owre-weel Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Meanwhile back to topic, interesting news item on Shetland News regarding young folks views regarding independence. One comment says it all to me....." You wouldn't buy a house only knowing half the price " The problem with currency along with most other issues is that we will not know what will happen to it until after we have all voted, then it will be too late. We are being asked to vote on the basis of maybe! And then when it doesn't all go to plan, wee Alec and his crew will look for everyone else to blame. Noo I've seen a fine house for sale that I would love to buy, so I'm going to phone the owner and get them to sign an agreement to sell it to me before I confirm what I'm willing to pay, whether I can afford it when I'll pay them or what the legal issues are etc etc. do you think they'd agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Meanwhile back to topic, interesting news item on Shetland News regarding young folks views regarding independence. One comment says it all to me....." You wouldn't buy a house only knowing half the price "You wouldn't build one either and, as far as I can see, that is what we are being asked to do. The future currency debate, whilst it is important, is also a bit of a 'blind' compared to the million and one other issues we are facing.It might be OK for some to take a leap into the dark based on anti-english rhetoric and feelings but, you have to land somewhere. Far to much information is being witheld/not discussed for my liking and, so far anyway, the discussions we have had have been pretty meaningless I will not be voting 'Yes' just to give some guy the opportunity to prance around trying to look good at our expense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian.smith Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 No saying I'm pro or anti but people really have to get a handle on we are not voting for wee Eck we are voting about how we move forward then we will have elections and we can vote anyone we want to run the country misty25 and shetlandpeat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmie Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 If we are simply voting for independence,and then once we get it decide how to run things then Wee Eck has muddied the waters with his white paper/manifesto. Perhaps he should step down now, that he has got his referendum. I fear that once he has power he will be reluctant to give it up lightly fionajohn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misty25 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 after a yes vote there will be an election where everyone can vote for the party they suport. what is wrong with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 It could be that the whole concept is far to large and complicated, for some it is easier to attack the Leader of the SNP. There are many issues and complications as well as opinions, however, the parties not to be trusted are the Tories and SNP as they will both have the facts and will already be in discussion about the various scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmie Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Nothing wrong with free elections. It is just that, in the unlikely event of a Yes vote, and a say for instance, a new socialist government is subsequently elected, they may possibly decide to ignore the White Paper and re-define how they see Scotland is to be run. It seems a waste of time and money squabbling over currency and EU membership until the colour of a new government is decided. If the SNP is not going to be the party to lead us into a bright new future then that should be made clear now, otherwise voters may simply say No to keep the staus quo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian.smith Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 The worst thing about this whole debate is the status quo. Something has to change. We are about to slip to third worst in the world for wage difference. Society has to become more equal I'm sick not just of bankers but companies as a whole paying huge bonuses equal to a average persons income over 10 years. It is actions like this that has got us in the state we are in. God we live in a country where you cant even adertise for an office junior anymore and the wonder how so many bairns are unemployed get real. I hate discrimination but common sense has to kick in somewhere. Next we wont be able to adevertise for apprentices as that will be discrimination as well. ArabiaTerra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owre-weel Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 The worst thing about this whole debate is the status quo. Something has to change. We are about to slip to third worst in the world for wage difference. Society has to become more equal I'm sick not just of bankers but companies as a whole paying huge bonuses equal to a average persons income over 10 years. It is actions like this that has got us in the state we are in. God we live in a country where you cant even adertise for an office junior anymore and the wonder how so many bairns are unemployed get real. I hate discrimination but common sense has to kick in somewhere. Next we wont be able to adevertise for apprentices as that will be discrimination as well.Couldn't agree more Brian, common sense went out the window many year ago with various quangos and Europe employing thousands of folk to tell us how we have to do things. An independant Scotland will not improve things as they still want to be part of Europe and the current government seem keen to centralise everything and take decisions away from local areas. There seems to be a lack o midder wit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian.smith Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) Couldn't agree more Brian, common sense went out the window many year ago with various quangos and Europe employing thousands of folk to tell us how we have to do things. An independant Scotland will not improve things as they still want to be part of Europe and the current government seem keen to centralise everything and take decisions away from local areas. There seems to be a lack o midder wit! I'm no so much concerned by europe to be honest just the huge gap in earnings from the top to the bottom the more money they have the more expensive things become the harder it gets for those of us in the bottom bracket. I vote for change I'm just not sure what change I want ha ha Edited February 26, 2014 by brian.smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 I'm no so much concerned by europe to be honest just the huge gap in earnings from the top to the bottom the more money they have the more expensive things become the harder it gets for those of us in the bottom bracket. I vote for change I'm just not sure what change I want ha ha You will not, in my opinion, get equality by voting for independence as those with substantial piles of cash will have already taken moves to protect it and will see to it that they remain 'top of the pile'. Last time I looked (a while back), Europe was costing every working person in the country around £1000 pa. and Banksters and the Government seemed to be absorbing most of the rest. That (with the possible exception of Europe), in my opinion, isn't going to change much at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Knows Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Independent research commissioned by the Hunter Foundation on currency union was published today. http://scotlandseptember18.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/FinalScotlandCurrencyA1The-Hunter-Foundation.docx The Hunter Foundation is neutral as their aim is to shed light on the issues and analysis with independent experts the assertions of both the Yes and No campaigns. In short the report argues the UK Government Treasury analysis is flawed, confused and does not answer the question it should of answered. The expert is a professor from China based in Beijing. BBC website view of article available http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-26702405 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Knows Posted March 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 UK Government bluffing over a currency union according to the Guardian! http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/mar/28/independent-scotland-may-keep-pound If true deceiving the electorate does not do much for the principles of an elected democracy, that delegates from our trust their powers given through the ballot box to be the democratically elected Governments that openly, transparently and honestly represent our best interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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