brian.smith Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 This road equivelent transport thing the prospective candadates are fighting about is it a good thing or a bad thing who is right as it seems to me that traveling south from Shetland will be more expensive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 would be interesting to see a real costing. cabin adds a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 The argument whether RET for Shetlnd would be cheaper or dearer has been running since about the 80's if not sooner, I wish someone would settle it definitively once and for all, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fionajohn Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 R E T ..or road equivelent tarrif ...the cost per mile to transport by road ..the last time i worked it out it would cost us in Shetland almost double what we pay already on the Northlink Ferries the only ones who may gain is the inter island ferries (if the S I C DOES NOT HAVE A GET OUT CLAUSE ) correct me if i am wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 is it taken from aberdeen of tip of scotland. a car doing 200 miles would cost what 40 quid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) How you you arrive at a definitive price per mile? There's a massive difference in unit cost between one person in a 15 mpg gas guzzler and fifty folk on a bus, or shifting ten ton, five hunderweight at a time in a Mini van compared to one run with a truck. Edited April 14, 2015 by Ghostrider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian.smith Posted April 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 The RET formula for calculating fares is a combination of a fixed element (to ensure services remain sustainable and to cover fixed costs such as maintaining harbour infrastructure and vessels) and a rate per mile (calculated by Transport Scotland analysts using contemporary independent research by the RAC).That is the explanation on the Government website could be in chinese for all it makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capeesh Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Had a quick fare check not including islander discounts all journeys calculated at peak times, car and passenger....Aberdeen to Lerwick - 83p per mileAberdeen to Kirkwall - £1.09 per mileCompared these prices to Western isles ferry fares currently under road equivalent tariffs...Arran - £1.28 per mileColonsay - £1.05 per mileColl - £1.33 per mileGigha - £2.18 per mileHarris - 88p per mileIslay - £1.21 per mileLewis - £1.08 per mileNorth Uist - £1.08 per mileSouth Uist - 91p per mileTo give an idea what ferry fares are like without road equivalent tariff Oban to Mull is currently a staggering £4.84 per mile, this route is changing in october this year to road equivalent tariff an will work out at £1.40 per mile Ghostrider 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Knows Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) The original CalMac/RBS bid from 0ctober 2002 for the Northlink Ferry Service ran it trouble and handed the contract back because it was uneconomical and the link below is Audit Scotland review of facts of the contract. http://www.audit-scotland.gov.uk/docs/central/2005/nr_051222_northlink_ferry.pdf In August 2005 when the re tender contract was awarded the subsidy from the Scottish Government was £63 million. Edited April 14, 2015 by Who Knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 over a quid per mile. some fancy car it must be compared with. if above figures are correct and thank you capeesh for looking. then we must come to the conclusion that the snp were correct to not introduce it up here. why would liberal candidate want it introduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserker Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Is it not the case that the ferries they are pushing for it to be applied to are the inter-island ferries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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