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I don't wish to get into another discussion regarding the definition of specific words, as you seem to be using "faith" in a different context to me, and it is largely irrelevant to the wider debate

 

science ofcourse has absolute proof?

 

You won't meet many people who believe in scientific principles that claim they have "absolute proof". I refer you to my point above - scientific method seeks to constantly improve current understanding through experiment and observation

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Faith - confidence or trust in a person or thing.

 

Believe - to have confidence in the truth, the existence, or the reliability of something, although without absolute proof that one is right in doing so.

 

science ofcourse has absolute proof? I might have been better to word it Confidence?

 

I remain, that you have to have confidence, in the reliability of the experiments/observations, and in the existence of the big bang without conclusive evidence.

 

 

I don't have absolute proof that the sun will rise tomorrow morning, nor do I have absolute proof that the Tooth Fairy exists. This does not mean that the chances of the Tooth Fairy existing are the same as the chances of the sun rising tomorrow.

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Just to Clarify, I am an Atheist, but to be objective in the interests of science...

 

Fjool - There is also Inconclusive evidence of the bible.

 

Peeriebryan - What I mean is that A scientist must have Confidence in the big bang theory to say "thats what happened", well a christian must also have confidence to say "Jesus Loves you".

 

I used the term Faith in the context of Confidence.

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Peeriebryan - What I mean is that A scientist must have Confidence in the big bang theory to say "thats what happened", well a christian must also have confidence to say "Jesus Loves you".

 

Indeed McDW. Both must have confidence, but it is how they have arrived at their conclusions which is different. Personally, it is part of my make up to seek proof, but I respect those who aren't interested in doing so or believe in something which is, by definition, impossible to either prove or disprove

 

Each to their own etc

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Inconclusive evidence is better than no evidence at all.

 

Indeed.

 

Also;

 

"Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd"

 

Voltaire.

 

Furthermore:

 

"What if we've chosen the wrong God? Every time we go to church we're just making him madder and madder"

 

Homer J Simpson

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I don't think the issue is whether or not the Bible actually exists

 

EvilInky you know thats not what I meant. Can you add anything productive to the pot?

 

PeerieBryan

 

the scientist can try to prove all they want, but the fact is they never will have proof or conclusive evidence of the origins of the universe. So their mission to "seek proof" is futile. the only difference between the two is the scientist wants while the christian doesnt need is what your saying.

 

but I respect those who aren't interested in doing so or believe in something which is, by definition, impossible to either prove or disprove

 

Actually I think you'll find every Christian is "Seeking", they have decided that in their eyes the proof of the bibile is enough for them. Just like the scientist who sees the universe expanding is enough evidence of the big bag.

 

Its in human nature to seek the truth, and what ever way you chose to go science(in respects of the orgins of universe) or god, theres a cross-road, and you need faith/confidence to go either way, because either way is just as unkown, just as provable, and disprovable.

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I hear some o da folk aboot say dat god made da world in 6 days and then on da seventh he took a day aff. ( I presume he hed a lang lie ta sleep af da booze afore rising ta hay da rost leg o lamb (which he just invented ) which mrs god had spent a mornin gettin ready.

da thing i winder is dis?

ok i will agree for arguments sake dat god did create da earth and all we see aboot wis.

N ow whit i winder is how mony folk wid carry on go in ta da kirk if it wis just ta thank god for da 3 score and 10 dat he has seen fit ta gee wis , and dat der wisna actually ony promise of ever lasting life in some paradise location ?

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