jjnuk Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 ** mod edit - poll added and updated to make the results public ** https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/alistair-carmichael-should-resign?source=facebook-share-button&time=1432305751 Skip and Keedle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Suffererof1crankymofo Posted May 22, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Given the choice between the SNP and LibDems, and the attitude of the SNP with their windfarm policies towards Shetland, I know who I'd vote for ... and it sure as hell wouldn't be the SNP. Itchyfeet, Acid and gafynandrew 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jjnuk Posted May 22, 2015 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Not a problem who you vote for. The problem is he launched an inquiry at cost to the taxpayer to discover it was him behind it. Lets have a by election and let the people decide. Skip, Davie P and rgibson 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffererof1crankymofo Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 He says that he never saw the document. I can visualise someone waving something in front of him going "Hey, we got this gem, can it be released to the press?" Wouldn't surprise me at all if it was a case of "Oh, whatever" after getting partial info on said document when he really should have paid more attention. Later, it's a case of "what document?" and he'd have to find it only to discover "Yikes, it was from my department!" Fact the French are releasing their findings today (I think) makes it all a tad more uuuuuuggggggh. jjnuk and Acid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian.smith Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 oh wait polititian lies shock horror dont they all Acid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjnuk Posted May 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Does that mean when they are caught they should getaway with it and keep their highly paid job? Davie P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Knows Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Shetnews has an interesting report on the story which clearly indicates our MP new all along who leaked the memo and who authorised the memo to be leaked. To quote or MP "stuff happens" but being 100% responsible for leaking does make sure every little helps in trying to discredit your opponent. http://www.shetnews.co.uk/news/10695-carmichael-admits-leaking-controversial-memo If still a minister he would only "consider" resigning from that office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Lets face it, if Sturgeon didn't want it to come back and bite her ass, she should have kept her gob shut. As for Carmichael, "all's fair in love, war, politics etc", its par for the course, he's a politician. Whether he resigns or not doesn't really matter, he's just a "face" in the system, if he's not in the big plush well polished seat, some other "face", almost certainly eqully as bad, if not worse will be. Its not about the person when it gets in to the corridors of Westminster or Holyrood any more, if it ever was, its about feeding the machine. SNAFU! Acid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Windwalker Posted May 22, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Oh crikes a politician has had to come clean. It's the ones who have yet to come clean I would worry about. This smacks more of the snp greetin because they didn't get in, the same greetin they did after the vote for independence didn't go their way. I'm fed up of hearing Salmond squaking about how there needs to be another referendum. The people voted no. Live with it. I'd still trust Carmichael long before I would trust any of the snp crowd. God he's not the first politician to make a bad judgement. He released an email, he didn't kill someone. I'd weigh up the positive stuff he's done against this stupid episode which sturgeon is doing her best to play up. Let's wait and see how many mistakes she makes. gafynandrew, Suffererof1crankymofo and Acid 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjnuk Posted May 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 I don't see why this is becoming factional. An M.P. has lied or is incompetent and should lose his job. At least put it to the people. I have nothing against Mr. Carmichael standing again if he thinks he has not done wrong and thinks he has the support. Maybe an independent could stand in a by-election to avoid this becoming divisive party politics. Davie P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Colin Posted May 22, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Wouldn't be the first case of election "dirty tricks" and, sure as hell, won't be the last... They are all at it and, the only "sin" appears to be getting caught out..Sturgeon is as bad as all the rest and would be stupid not to pass up the opportunity to "thrust" the details of Carmichaels misdemenour on the "public". If Carmichael does resign (big if) then, there would have to be a by-election and, who would the LibDems offer (parachute in) as a replacement? Would the LibDems be willing (or stupid enough) to risk losing the only seat they have left in Scotland? Would the replacement be acceptable to the electorate? Would Skene have another go and (hopefully) lose for a second time? If Skene did lose for a second time, would that then "poison" the SNP's (already bad) attitude towards the Northern Isles? Perhaps having the neck to "brazen it out" is the best option and will maintain what is left of the status quo. gafynandrew, Acid and Suffererof1crankymofo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 I don't see why this is becoming factional. Should have gone to Specsavers.. gafynandrew 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) An M.P. has lied or is incompetent and should lose his job. That'll be an extra 650 folk signing on for the dole next week then, and the country left without a Government unless for the old dodder's club. Edited May 22, 2015 by Ghostrider Suffererof1crankymofo and Acid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) Not a problem who you vote for. The problem is he launched an inquiry at cost to the taxpayer to discover it was him behind it. Lets have a by election and let the people decide. More money wasted by the M.P that is supposed to be working "honestly" on our behalf. Time for a wee by-election, methinks too!!! Edited May 22, 2015 by George. jjnuk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Knows Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 The Shetland Times on-line is running a poll on this question to monitor local views http://www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2015/05/22/carmichael-accepts-full-responsibility-for-memo-leak At present the votes favours our MP resigning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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