paulb Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 well im really shocked at an anti establishment person that feels supporting a lying or as you put it incompitant mp is the way to go. you jonestly would prefer a man who would lie to keep his job and who betrayed all the liberal policies and beliefs he claimed he stood for. a public servant should be spotless if not quit. as i will repeat if je was replaced by an honest liberal i would not even vote. but we know he will cling on until he cant resist being pushed out of office. and really your party contains a fare few public school boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Did Alistair Carmichael report which schools he attended and all his O grade results in his election communications? Carmichael's bio is pretty much public knowledge in my experience, and has been made available in publications at every election he's stood in to the best of my recollection. Skene not so much, folk had to rely on one individual having a letter published in the paper, then trawl the web with the help of Google to find snippets of who he is on as often as not quite low ranking sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 well im really shocked at an anti establishment person that feels supporting a lying or as you put it incompitant mp is the way to go. you jonestly would prefer a man who would lie to keep his job and who betrayed all the liberal policies and beliefs he claimed he stood for. a public servant should be spotless if not quit. as i will repeat if je was replaced by an honest liberal i would not even vote. but we know he will cling on until he cant resist being pushed out of office. and really your party contains a fare few public school boys. Like I said above, I do not believe it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that he did indeed lie. I'm with you regarding public servants being spotless, or they should be gone, however as things stand its highly impractical. For one thing the SIC and NHS would see their available staff numbers cut by considerably more than 50% immediately. "My party". Who might that be then? I didn't know I had a party. Yes, I voted UKIP in May, would I vote for them again? I really don't know, that would depend on how the land lay come next election time, I'm open to pretty much anything thats noticably right of centre, how far right I decide to go depends on the state of play at the time of the election, or whethe rI bother voting at all for that matter. Truth be told, I'd much rather give my vote to an independent than support the party system of politics, but sadly with the present set up an independent will never have a look in, its effectively a closed shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffererof1crankymofo Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 well im really shocked at an anti establishment person that feels supporting a lying or as you put it incompitant mp is the way to go. you jonestly would prefer a man who would lie to keep his job and who betrayed all the liberal policies and beliefs he claimed he stood for. a public servant should be spotless if not quit. as i will repeat if je was replaced by an honest liberal i would not even vote. but we know he will cling on until he cant resist being pushed out of office. and really your party contains a fare few public school boys. I think it was previously mentioned that MPs can only resign in certain circumstances. I don't recall stating (or Ghostie, for that matter but I'll ask Him) that there was anything wrong with ex public school boys, are you, paulb, trying to insinuate that there is? You might be hard pressed not to find privately educated bods amongst political parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post paulb Posted July 4, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 try the leader of the snp. not hard. of 56 mps only 3 may have attended private schools. http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/analysis-snp-bucks-trend-for-privately-educated-mps.126940798 nice try tryin to pass the blame i dont have an issue witj a private education its you and ghosty that are attacking a former eton pupil. George., Frances144 and Capeesh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 try the leader of the snp. not hard. of 56 mps only 3 may have attended private schools. http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/analysis-snp-bucks-trend-for-privately-educated-mps.126940798 nice try tryin to pass the blame i dont have an issue witj a private education its you and ghosty that are attacking a former eton pupil. Yes, I'm attacking a former Eton pupil, but not because they're a former Eton pupil, I'm attacking them for not being as open and honest when solicting the public's vote as bother telling the public they are a former Eton pupil. Big, big difference. Where have I ever said I had an issue with private education, where have I ever expressed any opinion whatsoever concerning private education? What I have an issue with, and have repeatedly stated a number of times, is the expectation that when a person offers themselves up as a candidate for election to public office, that they should be frank and open about who and what they are, and in my book what sort of education (if any) they received, and where they received it is very much part of who and what any person is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 try the leader of the snp. not hard. of 56 mps only 3 may have attended private schools. http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/analysis-snp-bucks-trend-for-privately-educated-mps.126940798 nice try tryin to pass the blame i dont have an issue witj a private education its you and ghosty that are attacking a former eton pupil. Yes, I'm attacking a former Eton pupil, but not because they're a former Eton pupil, I'm attacking them for not being as open and honest when solicting the public's vote as bother telling the public they are a former Eton pupil. Big, big difference. Where have I ever said I had an issue with private education, where have I ever expressed any opinion whatsoever concerning private education? What I have an issue with, and have repeatedly stated a number of times, is the expectation that when a person offers themselves up as a candidate for election to public office, that they should be frank and open about who and what they are, and in my book what sort of education (if any) they received, and where they received it is very much part of who and what any person is. Danus Skene provides almost exactly the same information regarding his education on his SNP page as Carmichael does on his LibDim page, Ghosty - or had you missed that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Distortio Posted July 4, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 this is getting beyond farcical. i would have replied to all the absurdity but didn't fancy sitting typing for 3 days only to be met with more of the same. and this was more fun. *any resemblance to persons etc... S] do you want eggs? G] far more relevant i'd have thought would be the farm the "chicken" was raised on, if indeed it was a chicken. S] indeed. and i wonder if this "chicken" has council affiliations... G] that may well be so, but as usual the real issue here is being avoided by those public school establishment figures in their ivory towers making stupid unqualified decisions about poultry they clearly know nothing about. S] yes G, you're right again. hypothetically you could ask that "chicken" a number of questions, to which i could provide entirely unsubstantiated answers which i think you will find will lend weight whatever point i think i'm making at this moment in time. G] perhaps that could be construed as such, however in my book, as i have said all along, this is really about who is having "bacon" and whether or not that "person" is cooking that "bacon" (assuming it is to be cooked and not eaten raw) uses a non-stick "pan", which in my book is at best highly questionable. S] well, yes. still, at least bacon doesn't have any religious leanings... G] probably not. though in my book the extent to which these alleged strips of dead pig can read, or indeed, comprehend the content of particular "religious" texts is irrelevant compared to the real problem which is about whether or not "bacon" (or indeed "chicken" if it so chose) is actually proven to be composed of strips of pig, a claim which i have not been convinced of, following the multiple reports in the "newspapers" which i don't read and the "television" which i don't watch. S] quite right! i never mentioned the fecking (cultural reference, it was funny 20 years ago, finger on the pulse) news reports! G] whether or not one mentions anything neither proves nor disproves anything, and in my book any "disputes" arising from the absence of information is arguably no less significant than the perceived assumptions which preceded it, and indeed form the basis for my understanding of this "situation". i voted ukip incidentally. S] i can't tell if i'm blinking uncontrollably or having a fit. G] personally speaking i see no reason to distinguish between the two, blinking can happen while fitting and vice versa, therefor it is entirely irrelevant to the question of whether a particular so-called "chicken" is part of an old boys network and proactively advertises its establishment credentials... [G&S are found slumped over the table. eggs remain uncooked.] Frances144, gibmac, AngusMecoatup and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 But, you didn't answer the real question.. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 the bacon, the status of eggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windwalker Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Interesting! When you don't agree with others views, you resort to ridicule and diversion. Is this a typical SNP tactic? Suffererof1crankymofo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 (edited) as apposed to condemning a man because he is a Christian. yet forgetting ali is an elder of the church of scotland. one spent his life teaching and trying to assist folks. other pent his life judging folks. as it a question on faith can anyone look up Proverbs 14:25 Proverbs 17:15 Proverbs 6:16-19as ali was a fiscal he should respect the law Edited July 5, 2015 by paulb crofter and George. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windwalker Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 another typical tactic. Having read the posts on this comment, I do not see anyone condemning the man for being a Christian, the question raised is regarding how backgrounds were kept quiet, the reference was that had possibly been done as it may have an effect on how people voted. When you can't get the better of a disagreement, you resort to ridicule and misdirection to make the opposite view look the weaker. You want to run for the SNP if AC gets turfed out:-) Suffererof1crankymofo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 another typical tactic. Having read the posts on this comment, I do not see anyone condemning the man for being a Christian, the question raised is regarding how backgrounds were kept quiet, the reference was that had possibly been done as it may have an effect on how people voted. When you can't get the better of a disagreement, you resort to ridicule and misdirection to make the opposite view look the weaker. You want to run for the SNP if AC gets turfed out:-) Rubbish. The question raised is, "Alistair Carmichael memo leak and inquiry: should he resign?" Backgrounds and education were brought in in a feeble attempt to destroy the support that was very definitely shown for Skene and the SNP while trying to convince everybody that what Carbunkle had done was nothing worth getting worked up about. Amazing how many people have stated that the lies told and fraud committed by the present M.P are acceptable and Carmichael should be left alone and everything just forgotten. The sooner that he is dealt with properly, the better. Capeesh and paulb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffererof1crankymofo Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 another typical tactic. Having read the posts on this comment, I do not see anyone condemning the man for being a Christian, the question raised is regarding how backgrounds were kept quiet, the reference was that had possibly been done as it may have an effect on how people voted. When you can't get the better of a disagreement, you resort to ridicule and misdirection to make the opposite view look the weaker. You want to run for the SNP if AC gets turfed out:-) Rubbish. The question raised is, "Alistair Carmichael memo leak and inquiry: should he resign?" Backgrounds and education were brought in in a feeble attempt to destroy the support that was very definitely shown for Skene and the SNP while trying to convince everybody that what Carbunkle had done was nothing worth getting worked up about. Amazing how many people have stated that the lies told and fraud committed by the present M.P are acceptable and Carmichael should be left alone and everything just forgotten. The sooner that he is dealt with properly, the better. George, care to explain how one destroys the support that was shown for Skene? Unlike someone else, I'm not distorting anything, just trying to ascertain why you believe when one person witholds information it's okay, but not when another person withholds it. Windwalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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