Alistair Carmichael memo leak and inquiry: should he resign?

[Capeesh]

Maybe Alistair Carmichael had temporary amnesia regarding the dodgy memo, seems more believable than some of the crackpot theories I've read on here in AC's defence.

It was just monumental good luck that the fog cleared and he remembered he..."was aware of its content and agreed that my special adviser should make it public"

a)After he had told an audience of millions on Channel 4 he knew nothing about it.

b)After an expensive tax payer funded parliamentary leaks inquiry had traced it back to his office.

c)After the election where he won by the slimmest of margins.

Would he have "remembered" and corrected the lie if the parliamentary leaks inquiry hadn't caught him?

As for dealing with any impropriety from other political parties, I agree wholeheartedly, we should stamp out any wrongdoing from our representatives wherever we find it, lets start at home with our very own MP.

[Suffererof1crankymofo]

Capeesh, you've just told a whopper.  SLIMMEST of margins?  The slimmest of margins would be one vote so you just told a great big fat lie.

PS You're not a politician, are you?

[MuckleJoannie]

 

It doesn't automatically go to a by-election if the party whip is removed permanently.

Fair comment, although in practice I think it generally does.

 

No it doesn't. A few MPs have had the whip removed and stayed on, such as Eric Joyce and Nadine Dorries. Nadine Dorries has returned to the fold, Eric Joyce olny stood down because of the number of fights he got into..

[hjasga]

 

 

It doesn't automatically go to a by-election if the party whip is removed permanently.

Fair comment, although in practice I think it generally does.

 

No it doesn't. A few MPs have had the whip removed and stayed on, such as Eric Joyce and Nadine Dorries. Nadine Dorries has returned to the fold, Eric Joyce olny stood down because of the number of fights he got into..

 

"Generally" does not mean always, of course there are going to be instances where it doesn't happen. I conceded that part of my post wasn't necessarily true, however if there was pressure from her constituents I think a by-election would almost certainly have to take place. It's quite rare that these people sit as independents for more than a few months after the whip is removed, either returning to the party or ultimately resigning.

[Capeesh]

More developments in the Alistair Carmichael scandal, looks like he's going to be called to give evidence next month on the 9th November.

Link HERE

That part isn't going to be televised but will we have a written transcript of the evidence he gives?

When the judges ask him why he lied to us in the lead up to the election and why he only owned up when he got caught a couple of weeks after the election I would like to hear his answers.

He will be under oath won't he?

[George.]

He will be under oath won't he?

 

Just what will that mean to the likes of him???

[Windwalker]

More developments in the Alistair Carmichael scandal, looks like he's going to be called to give evidence next month on the 9th November.

Link HERE

That part isn't going to be televised but will we have a written transcript of the evidence he gives?

When the judges ask him why he lied to us in the lead up to the election and why he only owned up when he got caught a couple of weeks after the election I would like to hear his answers.

He will be under oath won't he?

God, your exuberance couldn't be any clearer, it's really rather sad that you seem to be getting so hyped up over this. Perhaps you need a hobby

[Urabug]

Far more important and destructive things going on in the world just now that could do with the thousands of pounds which are being spent on this,what to me is a trivial matter,for which after all he did apologise.

 

God help him if he ever should do something really serious!

 

It is the folk who are feeding the fat cat lawyers and keeping them in buisness who in my opinion are in the wrong.

 

Surprised anyone would want to put themselves in a such prominent position these days if this is all it takes to cause disquiet.

 

I'm sure we all know of instances in the course of our work where "lies" have been told by staff and bosses but was not blown out of all reasoning ,resulting with court appearances and possible loss of career.

 

Making mountains out of mole hills.

[Suffererof1crankymofo]

 

He will be under oath won't he?

 

Just what will that mean to the likes of him???

 

 

No one will ever write a political manifesto again, no one will ever dare make another budget day speech.  Can we expect to see the likes of YOU now personally taking the Colgate Kid aka Tony Blair to Court for his WMD speech?

Edited October 12, 2015 by Suffererof1crankymofo

[Capeesh]

 

 

 

 

More developments in the Alistair Carmichael scandal, looks like he's going to be called to give evidence next month on the 9th November.

Link HERE

That part isn't going to be televised but will we have a written transcript of the evidence he gives?

When the judges ask him why he lied to us in the lead up to the election and why he only owned up when he got caught a couple of weeks after the election I would like to hear his answers.

He will be under oath won't he?

God, your exuberance couldn't be any clearer, it's really rather sad that you seem to be getting so hyped up over this. Perhaps you need a hobby

Not exuberant or hyped up I'm afraid, just disappointed, dismayed, embarrased mixed with a smidgeon of contempt.

I've voted Lib/Dems in the past, I certainly won't be making that mistake again in a hurry.

Maybe if our MP had done months ago what most MPs do when they get caught wrongdoing and resigned, I could've learned how to play the fiddle or something right enough, instead of reading some of the weird and wacky stuff on here

[Wheelsup]

The SNP and UKIP would never stoop to this kind of behaviour.

Edited October 12, 2015 by Wheelsup

[Capeesh]

^^^Of course they would which is why it's so important for us not to stand for it, if nothing's done this type of behaviour becomes commonplace.

Edited October 12, 2015 by Capeesh

[Windwalker]

 

 

More developments in the Alistair Carmichael scandal, looks like he's going to be called to give evidence next month on the 9th November.

Link HERE

That part isn't going to be televised but will we have a written transcript of the evidence he gives?

When the judges ask him why he lied to us in the lead up to the election and why he only owned up when he got caught a couple of weeks after the election I would like to hear his answers.

He will be under oath won't he?

God, your exuberance couldn't be any clearer, it's really rather sad that you seem to be getting so hyped up over this. Perhaps you need a hobby

Not exuberant or hyped up I'm afraid, just disappointed, dismayed, embarrased mixed with a smidgeon of contempt.

I've voted Lib/Dems in the past, I certainly won't be making that mistake again in a hurry.

Maybe if our MP had done months ago what most MPs do when they get caught wrongdoing and resigned, I could've learned how to play the fiddle or something right enough, instead of reading some of the weird and wacky stuff on here

Come on now Capeesh, your not fooling anyone. You can hardly wait to constantly spread the news on here, news that we are all capable of reading and noticing ourselves. A bit like an ald gossip .

It's just a pity that folk seem to enjoy to hang, draw and quarter someone on public forums rather than let due process take its course, and in addition seem to get so much satisfaction out of other people's troubles.

 

You say you won't make the mistake of voting lib/dem again, I can only assume from that statement that you believe any future lib/dem candidates cannot be trusted, a rather strange view to take.

 

I don't know who you support, but I'm assuming it's SNP. Perhaps you should start judging some of their tactics and if you believe that the party is responsible if an individual member misleads the public, you won't find any parties left to vote for

 

I'm all for action to ensure our politicians are above board, but I think this case has been blown out of proportion, clearly for political purposes.

[hjasga]

 

It's just a pity that folk seem to enjoy to hang, draw and quarter someone on public forums rather than let due process take its course

 

 

Agreed on the first part, but on the second it tends to be people defending Carmichael who don't want due process to take its course, which is what we are seeing now. 

[hjasga]

 

 

He will be under oath won't he?

 

Just what will that mean to the likes of him???

 

 

No one will ever write a political manifesto again, no one will ever dare make another budget day speech.  Can we expect to see the likes of YOU now personally taking the Colgate Kid aka Tony Blair to Court for his WMD speech?

 

 

Those are not entirely comparable cases. In this instance, the petitioners will have to demonstrate that Carmichael lied about his personal character for political gain. 

 

Imagine for a more clear cut case that an elected candidate had been discovered post-election to have falsified their educational background - claimed a degree they did not hold for example. That has a clear bearing on whether people would choose to entrust them with their vote and is something that would certainly sway the vote if revealed beforehand. This case is obviously far less clear cut and I sympathise with those seeing it as relatively minor, but it's a shame that Carmichael's fib was exposed too late for us to say with certainty that it made no difference.