Illegal immigrant's and refugees.

[audi-ya-do]

I'm glad to see the response of some local's towards the crisis that is going on in Europe at the moment with the Illegal immigrant's and refugees. I would guess, that with around five hundred local people desperate for affordable accommodation in Shetland,  that all of those who are campaigning to welcome these extra people in are going to give them room and board at their own homes. I take my hat off to you, for opening your doors and homes to people you can not check up on and could be anywhere between respectable and a terrorist, you are truly generous. I hope to see a list on Shetlink and in the Shetland Times of those offering room and board to illegal immigrant's and refugees, in your own homes, with what you have available over the coming week. 

[cicero]

well said

[Ally]

So you're saying don't let them in? Even though there's likely to be only one or two families (if any at all) in Shetland? Even though there's houses lying empty in the isles? If everyone thought like you then what's next? Let them die maybe? That'll teach them to have the temerity to flee for their lives... 

Edited September 18, 2015 by Ally

[paulb]

if the council want to put a few temporary buildings up im pleased to loan them the land. one of those hotels that were in the paper would be fine.

[Suffererof1crankymofo]

if the council want to put a few temporary buildings up im pleased to loan them the land. one of those hotels that were in the paper would be fine.

 

How you reckon that'll go down with The Crofting Commission then?

[Capeesh]

Come to the Shetland Islands and experience the warm community spirit and a friendly welcome.

I will make any refugees who end up making a home here feel as welcome as I possibly can.

My guess is most Shetlanders will do the same.

[hjasga]

If a mechanism is put in place by relevant authorities whereby I can offer to host a refugee or family of refugees while they find their feet here, I'll be happy to do so. I have some spare room for something temporary like that. I won't be listing it on Shetlink because that's about as useful as chucking a message in a bottle into the North Sea and hoping it drifts to the Mediterranean. We need action from national level policy makers before any local level philanthropy can make a true impact - I think it's a diversion to suggest otherwise.

 

Of course, it's not needed long term, because we have loads of spare accommodation. That it isn't accommodation desirable to people who wish to work in Lerwick or be in commuting distance of the Gas Plant is another matter, but those who are desperate for housing wherever it'll be offered will easily find it. 

[Suffererof1crankymofo]

Refugees used to be (or has it changed?) only permitted to stay for a maximum of five years.  During that time, many will not be entitled to full benefits (families usually are but not single individuals).  However, given that many were registered in other EU countries, my understanding is that many will not be granted refugee status within the UK and instead will be regarded as asylum seekers and/or economic migrants.

[Ironwithin]

Germany with twice before causing chaos in Europen are going for it a third time. Most of these people are not Syrians, let alone refugees, they are economic migrants playing the system and preying on a weak Europe. The east at least have the right idea.

[Capeesh]

A refugee is entitled to the same social and economic rights as any UK citizen. Refugees have full access to medical treatment, education, housing and employment.

Thankfully the civilised world learned lessons after WW2 and decided to give refugees protection in the United Nations 1951 Refugee Convention.

[Urabug]

Speak for yourself Capeesh, I feel very sorry for all those people but I'm not going to let compassion rule over my common sense.

 

Many things have to be taken into consideration.

 

These folk require houses,jobs and transport to these jobs,health care,education,also additional security as we do not know them or there background  ect ect, at a time when our councils and other services are being cut to the bone due to austerity measures can we really provide the necessary support.

 

We in Shetland already have many folk waiting on the houseing list,to see anyone getting priority over those already waiting is not fair and could result in animosity.

 

Would the migrants be eligible for employment benifits, sickness benifits, while our own jobless and sick struggle to survive or even qualify as it is.

 

Of course we have a number of folk already who "sponge" our welfare system and I'm not implying that any of these migrants would not be willing to work but what if they can not find work. They have to survive,so they have to get money from somewhere.  My tax your tax. 

 

One might put up someone in a spare room "free gratis" for a night or two,but take these poor folk in and you might well have to tolerate them for quite a while, after all they have no where to go.. Ok if it is people you get on with perhaps. Brave to take that risk.

 

A small temporary camp is what is required in the hope that many will go back to rebuild there own countries when eventally there is nothing left to destroy and the conflicts ends.

 

It is my belief that to intregrate all these different religions and ways of life expecting harmony is a bit like pouring vinegar into milk and expecting the milk not to curdle.

[Ghostrider]

Coincidence?

 

http://www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2015/08/14/snoozebox-could-emerge-on-hill-overlooking-lerwick

 

Perhaps.....

[Kavi Ugl]

I have to say the reaction I saw towards this "announcment" from my work colleages probably sums up how most folk are feeling - horrified and incredulous.

 

Most normal people have no problem with helping the poor and disadvantaged but that's just not what this is about.

 

Yes, I feel sorry for the children but it was their parents who dragged them on a dangerous and frightening journey into the "unknown".

 

I've seen too much evidence that these immigrants are not even looking to abide by the Rule of Law which is a very omminous sign.

 

One would think that genuine refugees would not traipse past six other countries and would be more than willing to be officially processed and play by the Rule of Law.

 

That's not what I see......

Edited September 18, 2015 by Kavi Ugl

[Urabug]

Yes Ghostrider,

This might provide a temporary fix,but probably not much use for families.Possibly could be adapted to meet whatever needs. 

 

Must be better than being stuck out in the cold wet windy weather.

 

They can save a bit of money right away by keeping them out of Shetland by not having to pay there fare to come here. 

Edited September 18, 2015 by Urabug

[Capeesh]

If a family who've fled a village/town/city that had been bombed to oblivion in Syria were to move to Shetland I'm almost certain they would be welcomed with the warmth and friendliness Shetlanders are famous for.

Edited September 18, 2015 by Capeesh