CrashBox Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Crashbox, cost isn't always the main issue. For example the Nissan Leaf barely has a charge capacity that will get if from Yell to Lerwick and back. Good for banging around city centres, rubbish if you live anywhere that involves a reasonable amount of travel.Early days, and there are improvements all the time. The technology in use today is very much in its infancy. In the next 10 years the majority of new cars sold will be pure electric, and they will have a range of 300+ miles. Don't dismiss it yet. Orkney produces well over 100% of its power needs from renewables, mainly wind, and the council are actively encouraging the residents to swap to EVs. Can't understand why that isn't the case here in Shetland. We have no need to be connected to the national grid for 'our benefit'. Scorrie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandcars Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 In the next 10 years the majority of new cars sold will be pure electric, The majority....really!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashBox Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Yeah, I'm fairly confident. A majority is anything greater than 50%, so I can see EVs taking more than half the sales volume in 10 years from now. When you look back at the market share of petrol and diesel cars back in the 1980s. petrol far outnumbered the sales of diesel, but within 10 years the figures had drastically changed. Due to poorly thought out incentives through taxing, the market for diesel engined cars took off. We now all know about the issues with diesel thanks to the 'Dieselgate' scandal and that form of ICE is heading towards near extinction, if not fully gone, with petrol engines going the same way some time after. The number of EVs on UK roads at the end of 2013 was somewhere around 3000 units. It's now in excess of 100k vehicles and climbing. The infrastructure is rapidly improving all the time. Every UK motorway service station now has a number of chargers installed. You can plug-in and recharge within around half an hour. Not as quick as stopping at the filling station and putting fuel in the car, but you don't have to take an EV to the petrol station section of the services, and you don't need to stand by the car holding the pump nozzle while you refuel. The Chargers are in the main carpark, and by the time you grab a coffee, have a stretch, and use the facilities, the car is ready to continue your journey. Next generation of cars and chargers will be inductive, so the car will recharge wirelessly through a plate buried in the parking bay. It'll all be very simple and easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebedee Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) Well judging by Volvo's announcement that they are planning to be purely hybrid/electric by 2019, Crashbox may well be right. Edited July 5, 2017 by zebedee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashBox Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Elon Musk, the CEO of Tesla, announced on Sunday that the Model 3 will enter production on Friday, two weeks ahead of schedule. He said they expect to build around 100 cars in August, 1500 cars in September, and by December the factory will be producing 20,000 cars a month. This is going to be the game changer. Prices in the US are expected to start at $35k, the Model S starting price is well over $60k. Expected range will be 215 miles for the smaller battery pack, in the real world, which is more than adequate I think. Porsche has also announced in the last few weeks that it expects half of its production to be hybrid or pure electric within the next 6 years. Nissan is launching an all-new Leaf later this year, which is expected to have a big hike in its battery range to take on Tesla's Model 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Property2017 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Bad news all around for the environment then , your living in cloud cuckoo land if you can not see how bad this is , do your research ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffererof1crankymofo Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 The main reason manufacturers are plugging electric cars is because the EU is demanding their member states has X No. of electric cars/cut their emissions by something like 2020. If that EU Directive didn't exist, I doubt you would see so many electric cars up for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashBox Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 I have done my research, thanks very much. I'm not here to argue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandcars Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Well judging by Volvo's announcement that they are planning to be purely hybrid/electric by 2019, Crashbox may well be right. a hybrid, isn't a pure electric vehicle breeksy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Well judging by Volvo's announcement that they are planning to be purely hybrid/electric by 2019, Crashbox may well be right. a hybrid, isn't a pure electric vehicle By 2019, Volvo intend to do both hybrid and purely electric vehicles. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jul/05/volvo-cars-electric-hybrid-2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urabug Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Have a look at the BBC Horizon program "Dawn of the Driverless Car". In the next few years there could be major changes that have implications that will affect many of us,but mainly those employed driving ,buses ,taxis ,delivery vehicles ect,ect. Could the robot be taking control over everything soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 If it happens at all, it'll take 30-40 years for the vast majority of vehicles to be electric. You have at least two genertions of devout petrolheads and coal burners to get to be dead first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Property2017 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Its actually all new Volvo models will be either EV or Hybrid from 2019 , current models will continued to be produced in either petrol or diesel well after 2019........................! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffererof1crankymofo Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 I have done my research, thanks very much. I'm not here to argue. What, not debate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breeksy Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Shetlandcars, indeed. Which is why they are offering both. Which is why I mentored both. And that's 2019. A long way short of the ten years suggested by crashbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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