RileyBKing Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 I note another flight safety incident today involving a Saab 340 operated by Loganair on behalf of Flybe, this one a charter flight from Aberdeen to Rotterdam, fortunately without any injury. There do seem to me to have been a disproportionate number of flight incidents in recent times, only one of which that I recall being under the "Act of God" variety, i.e. a lightning strike last December. I do wonder whether there is a maintenance issue, or whether the planes are simply getting old. I think it would be helpful if some light could be shed on this subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorrie Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 I note another flight safety incident today involving a Saab 340 operated by Loganair on behalf of Flybe, this one a charter flight from Aberdeen to Rotterdam, fortunately without any injury. There do seem to me to have been a disproportionate number of flight incidents in recent times, only one of which that I recall being under the "Act of God" variety, i.e. a lightning strike last December. I do wonder whether there is a maintenance issue, or whether the planes are simply getting old. I think it would be helpful if some light could be shed on this subject. Rather than wondering if there are 'maintenance' or airworthiness issues - perhaps you could enlighten us regarding the 'disproportionate number of flight incidents'? ie: evidence to support your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RileyBKing Posted October 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 www.aeroinside.com/incidents/airline/loganair 8 incidents + 1 yesterdays in less than 18 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMe Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 This should show the age of Loganair's fleet http://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/Loganair.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RileyBKing Posted October 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Plus another Thursday, engine shut down in flight from Kirkwall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelsup Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 on time flights down from 95% to 75% in the last couple of years, "technical faults" being blamed. that is a maintenance issue surely which would mean lack of engineering and/or lack of spares. Ages is less important. as all components have planned replacement schedules. . i.e brooms and handles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Look on the bright side.. They've ALWAYS managed to get them back on the ground.... gafynandrew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelsup Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Gravity gafynandrew and Itchyfeet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorrie Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) www.aeroinside.com/incidents/airline/loganair 8 incidents + 1 yesterdays in less than 18 months. OK, so we have a list of reportable incidents. In itself, it is meaningless unless it is compared to other airlines on a like for like basis. So what we need is a calculation that takes into account how many aircraft are operated by companies, how many incidents are recorded across the fleet and then convert this into a incident percentage figure. Then we need to categorise these incidents into weather related, pilot error or mechanical/electrical failure.We can then compare these figures across companies and come up with a set of statistics that either prove or disprove your concerns. Until that takes place, everything is pure conjecture. Edited October 4, 2015 by Scorrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 As opposed to "statistics" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorrie Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 As opposed to "statistics" That went over my head, Colin, (unlike a Logan Air flight it would seem ) Do you mean the linky is giving statistics already? If so, I've missed them. I thought it was just listings without any statistics regarding size of fleet/incident ratios. Or am I just being a bit thick...again..... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gafynandrew Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I think it was an old US Navy Submarine skipper who was talking to a US Navy pilot about his concerns about being aboard a submarine for the first time, who said 'Son, don't worry. There are more planes in the sea than submarines in the sky' Scorrie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infiltrator Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Thistle airways to the rescue...perhaps? Loganair reliability being discussed on this forum; http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/568567-loganair-sf34-rotterdam-hydraulic-failure.html Be careful how much you read into some of the posts, the egos and politics on PPRUNE make Shetlink look like a well balanced friendly forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Thistle airways to the rescue...perhaps? As opposed to 'Thistle (maybe do) Airways', which is what we currently seem to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelsup Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Thistle Airways with ATR's? Sacre Bleu! Nice fast aircraft, see them in a lot of shorthaul routes. Slightly more prone to crosswind probs maybe, but have been well tested at Sumburgh in the past. 46 or 72 seaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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