Self-sustaining Shetland

[Urabug]

I would like to" chopper" to

[Ghostrider]

^ Need to be a better chopper than the Ambulance bods tried with last year. She'd best not try to commandeer the use of the Lochside pad either, or she's likely to lose votes rather than gain them.

[Wheelsup]

I heard she was hoping to come up in the Brittania. Its conveniently parked down at Leith.

[brian.smith]

She is on the Northboat tonight Daughter is on it and she is havin a Q&A session when cafe shuts

[Ghostrider]

Trapped at sea in the company of a politician for hours - that's the stuff nightmares are made of.

[Capeesh]

She is on the Northboat tonight Daughter is on it and she is havin a Q&A session when cafe shuts

Would've been interesting to hear some actual policies.

Makes a nice change from the endless SNP bad stuff which seems to be going into overdrive and getting more and more hysterical the closer we get to the election.

The last zany comment I read on the Shetland Times website was comparing Nicola Sturgeon to Stalin, hilarious stuff.

When David Cameron visited Shetland during the last Tory/LibDem government I can't recall him mixing with us plebs, it was all hush hush, top secret, hand picked audience, etc...

Mind you with some of the policies the Tories and LibDems came out with in that abysmal government I'm not surprised.

[Rasmie]

The women certainly seem to be better at speaking to ordinary folk.

She reminds me a lot of Maggie. When Maggie was here and she came alang wir wark and had a very open session with us.

[Ghostrider]

 

She is on the Northboat tonight Daughter is on it and she is havin a Q&A session when cafe shuts

Would've been interesting to hear some actual policies.

 

Well, I suppose if someone is in favour of remaining within the EU and being part of an independent Scotland, they would probably be interested in what the SNP planned to do with it, if they got it. However, for those of us that being part of an independent Scotland and remaining within the EU are hard limits, the fact the SNP are firmly behind those two policies is all that needs to be known, the rest of their dreams are irrelevant.

[Roachmill]

Did I hear right on SIBC this morning that WS are to boycott some Q&A shindig with Nicola Sturgeon? I can see it'd be wise to keep some of the more verbally volatile members well clear of things. But John and Duncan could surely put in an appearance to what is a bit of a golden opportunity to state their / wir case?

 

The main point being WS do like to go on about how the SPN do nothing for Shetland or do it badly - this is the chance to tell the SNP leader just that. Otherwise, how will they know?

Edited April 4, 2016 by Roachmill

[Ghostrider]

^ Why bother telling them. The chances of them suddenly doing a 180 U turn on their long standing published polices is less than zero, and only them doing that would come anywhere close to making them tolerable.

[Roachmill]

There's little chance of my 4 year old stopping pounding the coffee table with his favourite Batman toy. I still tell him not to, as, at least then, I have the right to complain about it if nothing else.

 

Please don't tell me to take the toy away or be a better parent (he doesn't actually hit the coffee table). I'm merely trying to highlight the simple fact that, if you don't tell someone something, you have little right to moan about it. There's a saying about "getting of the pot" that would apply nicely here.

[Ghostrider]

I'm merely trying to highlight the simple fact that, if you don't tell someone something, you have little right to moan about it. There's a saying about "getting of the pot" that would apply nicely here.

 

There's also a saying about talking to a brick wall.

 

I disgree that not telling someone something negates your right to complain about it. Expressing your opinion, whatever it is, is basic a right of freedom of speech, regrdless whether whatever you're complining about is aware of your opinion or not.

 

I don't care to engage with the woman, as the possibility of anything positive coming out of any engagement with her is less than zero. I just wnt rid.

 

The "moaning" as you term it, has absolutely nothing to do with changing anything about the current SG or any party actively participating in it, its about illustrating the flaws of the present set up as part of punting something completely new and completely different for the future.

[Roachmill]

But it distinctly lessens (if not completely negates) the relevance of the moan / rant / whine / valid point when the person or, in this case, group in question has had the opportunity to make their case directly... but have actively chosen not to.

 

I just think it's a wasted opportunity to stand behind what has been said many times over. And it'll all be said many times more - just with less gravitas.

 

One may even postulate that the visit was announced so recently that John Tulloch couldn't make it up in time without paying an exorbitant airfare all due to the SNP! I know he was up here and may still be before anyone chips in.

 

The boycott announcement has effectively stopped anyone asking anything of Sturgeon vaguely related to WS at the session.

Edited April 4, 2016 by Roachmill

[Ghostrider]

^ WS, as an organisation may have taken the decsion that a boycott of the event by any person(s) endorsed by or speaking on the group's behalf is the way to go, but AFIK that doesn't stop any individual, member of WS or not, from attended and asking whatever question(s) they see fit, if they see any point. Which I don't.

 

She's not going to abandon the idea of Scottish independence, she's not going to abandon the idea of keeping Shetland as part of Scotland, she's not going to abandon the idea of Scotland remaining a member of the EU, and she's not going to abandon the idea of the SNP ever forming a Government again. Therefore I have no questions to ask or points to put.

[Colin]

I have to agree with Roachmill that boycotting any kind of meeting with Sturgeon is a bit like "cutting off your nose to spite your face".

 

My take is that it would have been an ideal opportunity to ram home the fact that Scotland is NOT (yet(?)) a one party state and that Shetland is so different that it is NOT part of Scotland in the "traditional" sense. 

 

There are issues of vital importance to "islanders" that she must address in order to gain support and the "one size fits all" Central belt approach is wasted up here.

 

BUT

 

I also have to agree with GR that there would be little point in arguing with someone whose beliefs (and those of her party) are so entrenched that it would become just a waste of time and effort.