Redrobbie99 Posted July 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 Free to be exploited to the point where there are no fish left? EU regulations were brought in to save fishermen from themselves. You're maybe too young to remember the days of two crews working a boat 24/7 and black fish. Bluntly, this is disingenuous europhile propganda. What evidence is there to suggest fishing to extinction will happen? Having neared the point of doing irrecoverable damage to some species, surely both fishermen and governments have learned from that experience and its resonable to expect both to move forward bearing that knowledge in mind. Not revert to pre-1973 knowledge and attitudes. Pre-1973 despite ever increasing catching ability, fishing to extinction was nothing more than a theory, for any species. In the years thereafter it became a reality, and as by then the EEC had been granted supreme powers over all EEC nation's fishing activity, it was their job to address the issue. To suggest that it needed the EEC to save fishermen from themselves, is by default to suggest that had the UK not been in the EEC when fishing to extinction became a real possibility, that the UK Government wouldn't have done a thing to address it. The EEC did what they did, as it was where the buck stopped at that time, and theres nothing to suggest that had the buck stopped anywhere else at that time they wouldn't have taken similar action. It could as easily be argued that the final straw that led to a real risk of fishing to extinction was the fault of the EEC and they were just fixing what they'd broken in the first place. As I remember before the days of black fish and dual crews, when the sea down the east side was thick with Danish and other pout boats (which had been allowed in by the EEC) hardly one of them under 100ft long, and load until the decks were awash if they had the chance, from scooping up everything that swam, including the immature of numerous species, including those that came to be "at risk" only a few years later, to drag home for fishmeal. At one time the Danes used to take nearly three quarters of a million tonnes [officially ] of sand eels . Mostly from the East coast of Scotland .They were used to make fish meal mainly to feed their huge pig industry most exported back to to UK as bacon etc [Danepak] and the oil was used believe it or not to fuel power stations in Denmark . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concerned shetlander Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 I would hope that our mp and msp would be fighting really hard to keep our fishing grounds around our shores to ourselves and not have all these French, Spanish etc., fishing practically up to our shores. Fishing is very important to the shetland, Scottish and British economy and should be looked after, not thrown away or bargained way. Fisherman, you will have to ensure that your representatives in council, MPs msps and fishing reps fight hard for your rights and not sell you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skerriesinthewilderness Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 Now that the MSP leader has had her one to one meeting with the new PM of UK Should our Shetland reps (wir shetland) have a one to one with the new PM of the UK? Maybe it is not needed as we are at one with the current leaders of MSP? Or should we send Captain Calamity to meet the new PM of UK? Perhaps he does not recognise her? Any views on the above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravetwin Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 Isn't that interesting. Oil/gas refined on North Sea rigs IN SCOTTISH WATERS & directly exported aren't included in HMRCs "Scottish Exports.See link to verify http://www.gov.scot/Resource/0049/00493251.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skerriesinthewilderness Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 (edited) Scotland famous for exporting the following Grand Theft Auto Toxic Salmon Whisky Oh and Oil Cod for the English, Keep the good stuff for ourselves Edited July 17, 2016 by Skerriesinthewilderness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorrie Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 Isn't that interesting. Oil/gas refined on North Sea rigs IN SCOTTISH WATERS & directly exported aren't included in HMRCs "Scottish Exports.See link to verify http://www.gov.scot/Resource/0049/00493251.pdf Because they are UK territorial waters - not exclusively Scottish....yet.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrobbie99 Posted July 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 It would be interesting to know the total value of all fish caught in Scottish territorial waters each year . Da Burra Shop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrobbie99 Posted July 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 Our neighbors the Faroe Islands have a GDP of $2.6 billion a year . Most of this is fish related . It just shows how much Shetland misses out on .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_Faroe_Islands concerned shetlander 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skerriesinthewilderness Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 Nicola Sturgeon accepts she has a veto over Brexit timing in comments which will infuriate Tory Right--www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/17/nicola-sturgeon-accepts-she-has-a-veto-over-brexit-timing-in-com/?ref=yfpWill Nicola ever accept Scotland democratically voted to be a part of the UK.? How would she react if the rest of the UK had a vote to see if Scotland must leave the UK? Would she last long in her job? Does the EU want to split Scotland away from the the UK? Is Nicholas becoming an embarrassment as a leader? As a Nation did Edward Heath deceive us all ? Why would Nicola want Scotland to join the EU,?Does Nicola really think the EU is working?Are most of its member states bankrupt,?Can the EU ever control its borders,? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrobbie99 Posted July 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 If Faroe had been fortunate enough to have been part of the UK and a member of the EU i wounder if their GDP of $2.6 billion would be higher or lower ? Da Burra Shop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Burra Shop Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 Isn't that interesting. Oil/gas refined on North Sea rigs IN SCOTTISH WATERS & directly exported aren't included in HMRCs "Scottish Exports.See link to verify http://www.gov.scot/Resource/0049/00493251.pdfMaybe because they don't refine oil and gas offshore. That would happen at a refinery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 If Faroe had been fortunate enough to have been part of the UK and a member of the EU i wounder if their GDP of $2.6 billion would be higher or lower ? Isn't there a small typo in there, shouldn't it be 'unfortunate'? That said, never mind if Faroe's GDP might have been higher, as surely Shetland's would have been. Our boats could have been going there and scooping up everything in their ebb, while their boats were mostly being scrapped. That is how the EU fisheries policy works after all, isn't it - Go rob someone else's resources, and whoever has most has to share it with everyone else so that they get to keep the least of anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelsup Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 The French in particular will be keen to lure Scotland into the EU. Their fishing fleet gets most of its catch in our waters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skerriesinthewilderness Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 While I accept Scotland and France have many things in common.I have seen no evidence the French are keen to lure Scotland out of the UK and into the EU. Perhaps you have a French Connection ? France has a strong leaning to the far right in politics, and is growing. Is this the way you want Scotland to head? The French Police have had lots of powers taken away from them? Is this what you want for Scotland? The people of France would love to be like Scotland and have control over its borders, and immigration. France is a republic. What do you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 (edited) ^ A bit of the right wing in Scotland would be no bad thing, balance things out with the loony lefties. Don't think I'd want to get entangled up among the French to achieve it though. Edited July 18, 2016 by Ghostrider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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