George. Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Without European funding who will fund the tunnels to the islands? I'm not seeing Europe rushing in with their cheque to pay for them either, despite the idea of tunnels having been grumbled about for many years. Meanwhile, Norway appears to have a pretty healthy ongoing tunnel/bridge program without European money. Yet more reasons to jump off the EU gravy train. After all, it's only a gravy train for the control merchants that run it, unelected I believe. Da Burra Shop and Gorgonzola Butt-cheese 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnie ii Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Without European funding who will fund the tunnels to the islands?give them £100 so they can give back £10 in grants why not keep the money in the uk and just build tunnels and lots more with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urabug Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Yes magnie ii,apparently since 1979 we have contributed £228Billion,and we have received £143 Billion back so the question is where has the other £85 Billion gone. BGDDisco 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Burra Shop Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Its probable than a non-EU UK or Scotland or Shetland might have also decided to impose sanctions against Russia for invading another country. iF we left the EU countries like Spain might not take our shellfish etc as they might attract high import taxes.I can't see the French or Spanish housewife going without fish, or accepting a high tax on it. So no real worries there. The Faroes who are of a similar disposition to us looked at the facts and decided to carry on selling their produce to Russia, there is also a fair chance an independent Shetland would of decided the same. Gorgonzola Butt-cheese 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Yes magnie ii,apparently since 1979 we have contributed £228Billion,and we have received £143 Billion back so the question is where has the other £85 Billion gone. Just possibly into the back pockets of the control merchants that run the EU. They get massive salaries that are totally unjustified. When we leave we will be so much better off it's unbelievable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleJoannie Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 What a LOAD OF CRAP - Muckle Joannie ! Who are you ? Jonathon Will's ?How prosperous is their fisheries compared to the Uk as a whole ?Back up your sweeping statements with real facts why dont you !!Their fishing industry is the major area where Norway prospers outwith the EU. However from the Daily Telegraphhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/9383678/Is-Norways-EU-example-really-an-option-for-Britain.html "We are the most obedient of EU members, rapidly implementing directives to the letter, yet we have no say in them," said Marit Warncke, who heads Bergen's chamber of commerce. "We are sitting outside in the corridors, instead of being at the decision table."Nor is membership of the EEA without costs, she points out. Through it, Norway contributes €340 million a year to the EU – despite neither being a member, nor having any voting rights. The Guardianhttp://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/16/eu-exit-norway-option-costs-thinktank Open Europe, which campaigns for major reforms in Britain’s relationship with the EU, says that the UK would still have to uphold the “most burdensome EU rules” if it was to adopt what is known as the Norway option.The BBChttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35354288 OSO Hotwater is a maker of central heating boilers just outside Oslo, and a few years ago it woke up to a nightmare. Overnight it discovered that the EU was introducing new environmental and energy efficiency standards that favoured gas powered boilers over electric ones.As OSO's boss Sigurd Braathen told me he did the calculations and realised that half of Oso's products would soon be useless: unsaleable.Now, as Norway is not a member of the EU, it has no say over these or any other EU rules. It can lobby against them, but it does not sit round the table when they are proposed, discussed, amended, debated, or voted into law. The consequences can be huge. wilks and jz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Staney Dale Posted January 31, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 ^ Not entirely sure, Muckle Joannie, why you bothered responding to someone who hasn't the brains to have a courteous debate or back up their own 'argument' with coherent facts. But well done you anyway. tirvaluk, jz and wilks 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgonzola Butt-cheese Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 My coherent fact Mr Staney Dale is that I spent years dumping hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of good edible fish to live within E.U. law and then had to leave the industry penniless due to that management regime which continues to destroy large quantities of Shetland's food resource to this day. Mr Joannies various establishment tabloid examples fails at this first particular hurdle - Why if Norway , with their excellent infrastructure, high level of social services and control over their vast marine resources, are struggling so with E.U law do they not join ??Please furnish me with the coherent facts you have accumulated thanks to your superior I.Q. and intellect. Redrobbie99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilks Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 ^ Google "Norway and EU", no superior I.Q. or intellect required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urabug Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 I'm not convinced that leaving the EU is the answer but we certainly require a better deal . What would our fathers and forefathers who fought in the wars for the freedom of Britain think of being controlled by over paid bureaucrats in Brussels ! I think of the EU a bit like my home and car insurance. I pay dearly for it with the hope I never need it and with that thoughts in mind should we demand some funding from the EU to provide better links to the Islands I see no reason we should not get it.. After all the EU has the money --do'es Holyrood or Westminster ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Colin Posted February 1, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 "I'm not convinced that leaving the EU is the answer but we certainly require a better deal ." You might be right but, getting a better deal is totally dependent on the other participents being willing to offer one and, so far, I see no signs of that happening particularly as the SNP seem hell bent on undermining any moves to the contrary. The only solution I can see is too leave and then, if they still want our fish etc, negotiate a new deal from a position of strength. If they don't want our fish (and other resources) then, sell them to someone else.. The world NEEDS food and oil. Gorgonzola Butt-cheese, Da Burra Shop and crofter 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrobbie99 Posted February 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3237073/Cameron-Osborne-quietly-pay-1-7BILLION-bill-Brussels-dismisses-totally-unacceptable.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capeesh Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Should we remain in the EU?Should we back David Cameron and vote YES?http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll39/Zeppelin36/image_zpsbjkx6e9u.jpegOr should we back Nigel Farage and vote NO?http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll39/Zeppelin36/image_zpspqigscxs.jpeg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tiodylb17 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 We should leave , but too many scare tactics will make us stay ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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