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Since Shetland is failing to get anywhere in terms of competing in Scottish domestic football perhaps it is now time to look at the bigger picture.

 

Gibralter has won a court case that will allow them to join the ranks of San Marino, Faroe, Andorra et al and play in the Euro and World Cup qualifiers.

 

Following San Marino's 13-0 thrashing from Germany it seems there will be even more clamour for a qualifying group made up of these diddy nations. We could be part of this!

 

Believe it or not this could make sense. FIFA will be receptive as they will want a decent number of diddy nations in this group, Shetland would get more regular football at a decent level, and travelling to San Marino to follow Shetland would beat the pants of a dreary match away at Inverurie Locos!

 

I know, I know, my tin hat is at the ready - but we can afford to think big, can't we?

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I think shetland playing in something like the highland league would be more realistic. or they could try and play some friendlies against faroe just to see the difference in class

 

its absolutely ridiculous that gibralter are wanting to play in international football, they would just get beat 15-0 or more every game. think the players would love it though cause then they could get the chance to be on the same pitch as some of their heroes, but its totally pointless.

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Just a sign of the abject apathy that many of the people in control of scottish football regard Shetland. contrast this with the efforts made by teams competing in the Amicus womens cup who were willing to travel to play shetland at home, and also the teams that come up to play the Shetland Rugby team in their league, some of these squads chartered their own planes to get here, yet try and get a team from the north of scotland to play up here in a cup and they harp on about the cost and time, and the local team has to play their home game away, and there also expected to travel to the away teams venue, which is no different in cost or time for the Shetland team.

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no they cant, you have to be born there before you can play for them!

 

I can't speak for football because I gave that sport up half a century ago and never did follow any team as a spectator. However. I am certain that a good many of those representing Shetland at the Island Games were not Shetland born. One law for some and not for others?

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no they cant, you have to be born there before you can play for them!

 

I can't speak for football because I gave that sport up half a century ago and never did follow any team as a spectator. However. I am certain that a good many of those representing Shetland at the Island Games were not Shetland born. One law for some and not for others?

 

Starting 11 I believe were:

 

Bobby Wiseman (Lerwick)

Michael Johnson (Lerwick)

Leighton Flaws (Ness)

Merv Jamieson (North o Braeish)

John Montgomery (Whalsay)

Ross Jamieson (Brae but maybe Muckle Roe?)

Stuart Hay (another North man)

Stuart Smith (Quarff)

James Johnston (Lerwick)

Karl Williamson (Whalsay)

Steven Umphray (Scalloway)

 

So old timer you are way off the mark there. Sorry about that. And when I think of the other 9 players only Craig Dinwoodie was not born here.

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no they cant, you have to be born there before you can play for them!

 

I can't speak for football because I gave that sport up half a century ago and never did follow any team as a spectator. However. I am certain that a good many of those representing Shetland at the Island Games were not Shetland born. One law for some and not for others?

 

Do I have to be absolutely word specific in my posts? I said that I couldn't speak for football,yet you take my comment to specifically refer to football. My contention is that a good many of Shetland's sporting greats are incomers,not native Shetlanders.

 

I have already been slated on the BBC Island blog site for suggesting that people who represent Shetland should be natives. That includes babes born in Aberdeen before the denials come flooding in. It seems that people accept that you can represent the area in which you live,no matter where you were born. So. What's the problem with Gibraltar offering homes to the world class players?

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no they cant, you have to be born there before you can play for them!

 

I can't speak for football because I gave that sport up half a century ago and never did follow any team as a spectator. However. I am certain that a good many of those representing Shetland at the Island Games were not Shetland born. One law for some and not for others?

 

Do I have to be absolutely word specific in my posts? I said that I couldn't speak for football,yet you take my comment to specifically refer to football. My contention is that a good many of Shetland's sporting greats are incomers,not native Shetlanders.

 

I have already been slated on the BBC Island blog site for suggesting that people who represent Shetland should be natives. That includes babes born in Aberdeen before the denials come flooding in. It seems that people accept that you can represent the area in which you live,no matter where you were born. So. What's the problem with Gibraltar offering homes to the world class players?

 

why did you post it in the International FOOTBALL for Shetland thread then 8O

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Since Shetland is failing to get anywhere in terms of competing in Scottish domestic football perhaps it is now time to look at the bigger picture.

 

Gibralter has won a court case that will allow them to join the ranks of San Marino, Faroe, Andorra et al and play in the Euro and World Cup qualifiers.

 

Following San Marino's 13-0 thrashing from Germany it seems there will be even more clamour for a qualifying group made up of these diddy nations. We could be part of this!

 

Believe it or not this could make sense. FIFA will be receptive as they will want a decent number of diddy nations in this group, Shetland would get more regular football at a decent level, and travelling to San Marino to follow Shetland would beat the pants of a dreary match away at Inverurie Locos!

 

I know, I know, my tin hat is at the ready - but we can afford to think big, can't we?

 

Most ridiculous thing I`ve heard since Brian Nugent came up with the idea of scotland playing faroe in shetland. Shetland is part of scotland end of story!

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no they cant, you have to be born there before you can play for them!

 

I can't speak for football because I gave that sport up half a century ago and never did follow any team as a spectator. However. I am certain that a good many of those representing Shetland at the Island Games were not Shetland born. One law for some and not for others?

 

Do I have to be absolutely word specific in my posts? I said that I couldn't speak for football,yet you take my comment to specifically refer to football. My contention is that a good many of Shetland's sporting greats are incomers,not native Shetlanders.

 

I have already been slated on the BBC Island blog site for suggesting that people who represent Shetland should be natives. That includes babes born in Aberdeen before the denials come flooding in. It seems that people accept that you can represent the area in which you live,no matter where you were born. So. What's the problem with Gibraltar offering homes to the world class players?

 

why did you post it in the International FOOTBALL for Shetland thread then 8O

 

Because the thread was discussing international football. Do I have to be an expert on every subject on which I comment or can I, like most, Just blether on about anything which takes my fancy. Are you an expert on world football?

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I take your point Claudias but what relevance does somebody Shooting for Shetland for instance but being born in Wales for have to do with wether or not Shetland could or should have a International football team. If they did the players would have to meet the requirements laid down to compete in the UEFA and FIFA competitions which differ from that of a sportsman competing in lawn bowls for Shetland in the inter island games.

 

Your orignal post seemed to be having a dig at the selection process and in some way saying that non Shetland born persons would not be allowed to compete and that there is some form of discrimination.

 

If you had read what you posted which was " I cant speak for football" then you really should have stopped there because the rest was irrelevant.

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I take your point Claudias but what relevance does somebody Shooting for Shetland for instance but being born in Wales for have to do with wether or not Shetland could or should have a International football team. If they did the players would have to meet the requirements laid down to compete in the UEFA and FIFA competitions which differ from that of a sportsman competing in lawn bowls for Shetland in the inter island games.

 

Your orignal post seemed to be having a dig at the selection process and in some way saying that non Shetland born persons would not be allowed to compete and that there is some form of discrimination.

 

If you had read what you posted which was " I cant speak for football" then you really should have stopped there because the rest was irrelevant.

 

We seem to be confusing ' International football teams' and playing football internationally.

Jonners suggested that Shetland,like Gibraltar, could play in Euro and World Cup qualifiers. Commodore stated that it would be ridiculous for Gibraltar to play internationally. I was commenting on those statements.

As far as I know,teams like Rangers and Celtic play in the European Cup matches. They are not restricted to purely Scottish players therefore a team calling itself Gibraltar United would not have to be composed of Gibraltarians. Nor would a Shetland team have to exclude people who were resident but not born here.

On the other hand, I agree that a national football team should be composed of players born in that country. The fact that the Shetland football team was composed totally of Shetland born athletes was purely co-incidental. They were competing internationally not competing as a national team.

At no time did I suggest that the selection process was faulty or that there was discrimiination. You put that interpretation on to my post. Who represents Shetland internationally is entirely up to the selectors. I deliberately avoided mentioning individuals. I wonder however if you were one of the many people who so vociferously commended Sakchai for representing Shetland and Scotland internationally when it was feared that he would be deported?

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