Redrobbie99 Posted March 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man_Government Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrobbie99 Posted March 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 Faroe has a population of 50,000 the Isle of man is about the same size as Shetland but has 90,000 population . Jersey is about the size of Unst yet has a population of 100,000 , Shetland has a mere 23,000 why is that ? Da Burra Shop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotsit Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 Because of the idiots running the Island, nobody wants to come here, they all heard what SIC like and planning etc and it has nothing to do with the weather or its location. brecken 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 Because of the idiots running the Island, nobody wants to come here, they all heard what SIC like and planning etc and it has nothing to do with the weather or its location. Very true, but they are only a council and not a government regardless of what they may believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 Faroe has a population of 50,000 the Isle of man is about the same size as Shetland but has 90,000 population . Jersey is about the size of Unst yet has a population of 100,000 , Shetland has a mere 23,000 why is that ? Possibly has something to do with how James III stole Shetland, when at that time 10% was owned personally by Christian I of Norway/Denmark. Must not forget the S.I.C, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotsit Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 Yes but SIC would be in any new formed government, they would just re name SIC as the government.We do not have enough people on the island to choose from to get shall we same a fair and proper mix certain influential names would be at play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 Yes but SIC would be in any new formed government, they would just re name SIC as the government.We do not have enough people on the island to choose from to get shall we same a fair and proper mix certain influential names would be at play. And there was me thinking we lived in a democracy. Of course, we don't and never actually have. Perhaps that's why regal theocracy keeps coming to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelsup Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 Of course we have democracy, the problem is democracy. The same few people put themselves forward and then the voters vote for the wrong people anyway. If we had better quality candidates then perhaps it would be different. Who would you want in government? Chances are nobody else would want them. That's democracy for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 (edited) Of course we have democracy, the problem is democracy. The same few people put themselves forward and then the voters vote for the wrong people anyway. If we had better quality candidates then perhaps it would be different. Who would you want in government? Chances are nobody else would want them. That's democracy for you. Perhaps you could explain just how democratic the House of Lords is. Possibly comment on the massive percentage that were born into it and the relationship between that and democracy. There are at present 96 hereditary peers sitting in the House of Lords. Not elected in any way but they can, and do, inflict their utterly insane ideas upon the people of the UK. There are also 26 Bishops from the Church of England. Democracy? What democracy? Edited March 25, 2017 by George. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrobbie99 Posted March 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 Good news for shetland .http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4349216/Britain-reclaim-waters-scrapping-1964-deal.html George. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capeesh Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 (edited) ^^^I take everything that's written in the Daily Mail with a huge pinch of salt. This is from the Tory governments Brexit white paper... "8.16 In 2015, EU vessels caught 683,000 tonnes (£484 million revenue) in UK waters and UK vessels caught 111,000 tonnes (£114 million revenue) in Member States’ waters. Given the heavy reliance on UK waters of the EU fishing industry and the importance of EU waters to the UK, it is in both our interests to reach a mutually beneficial deal that works for the UK and the EU’s fishing communities. Following EU exit, we will want to ensure a sustainable and profitable seafood sector and deliver a cleaner, healthier and more productive marine environment". Call me a cynic but this part suggests a backroom deal is on the cards imho. "...it is in both our interests to reach a mutually beneficial deal that works for the UK and the EU's fishing communities..." Tory PM's have previous for treating our fishing grounds as an expendable bargaining chip in negotiations with the rest of Europe. (Ted Heath in the 70's) Edited March 25, 2017 by Capeesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelsup Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 My comment was a bit more local , sic, as the previous post was about local elections, sigh. At least the House of Lords doesn't claim to be democratic.Unlike the ruling alliance at Holyrood which claims to be and then totally ignores the majority when they don't like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 (edited) My comment was a bit more local , sic, as the previous post was about local elections, sigh. At least the House of Lords doesn't claim to be democratic.Unlike the ruling alliance at Holyrood which claims to be and then totally ignores the majority when they don't like it. You're right, the HoL does not claim to be in any way democratic. It doesn't claim to be anything, it just does what it wants to do, whether anybody thinks it right or wrong. I'm sure that you would agree that's just as well because there is absolutely nothing democratic about it. The British government however does claim to be democratic. Regularly, too. Unfortunately, the HoL is a very major part of our government, as I'm sure that you would also agree. That proves two things at least. Westminster is an insult to the common man, and the British government lies to its people on almost a daily basis, almost always by claiming to be a democracy. Britain never has been. Ever. Yet again, regal theocracy comes to mind. Edited March 26, 2017 by George. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooney1 Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 Faroe has a population of 50,000 the Isle of man is about the same size as Shetland but has 90,000 population . Jersey is about the size of Unst yet has a population of 100,000 , Shetland has a mere 23,000 why is that ? This is something I've often thought about. Outside climate, I think Shetland (or certain powers) have always been resistant to growth/change. There are many example of this: obstructive planning department, land stalemate (plenty of land but non made available / bought up and controlled by SCT/SIC/LHT etc.), doors closed to large retail chains, unwillingness to grow townships outside of Lerwick etc. George. and brecken 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 Faroe has a population of 50,000 the Isle of man is about the same size as Shetland but has 90,000 population . Jersey is about the size of Unst yet has a population of 100,000 , Shetland has a mere 23,000 why is that ? Because they are all, pretty much, self governing? George. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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