as Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 After numerous phonecalls over the last x weeks I am still waiting for a site visit. They agree after looking at the location on their computer that there is nowhere for me to secure these bins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelsup Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 I phoned and they (sic) more or less admitted that the new communal bins in our area were not well situated and they would have to be looked at in the next few weeks. Tbh I have to drive to get to the nearest pick up point anyway and would have been happier if the gas a collection point for the village I a central point , instead of having these ugly tin boxes dotted around our beautiful rural settings Nigel Bridgman-Elliot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 The overwheming message coming across here seems to be that between long rough access tracks, the need to construct purpose built standing areas and/or fencing to safely site them, having to add fasties to them to keep lids closed and/or stop the bins themselves vanishing, if it takes all this to make them work, these damn plastic pots on wheels simply aren't fit for pupose in a typical Shetland situation - SIC, take note! (Yeah, I'm being beyond sarcastic with that last bit). Bins and urban locations, very broadly speaking, tend to manage most of the time, bins and rural locations the reverse happens. You'll never get a square peg to fit in a round hole, but trust the SIC to expect the rest of us to do just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 After numerous phonecalls over the last x weeks I am still waiting for a site visit. They agree after looking at the location on their computer that there is nowhere for me to secure these bins. I hope they were relying on something other than Google Streetview for their decisions, a lot of Shetland is showing as it was 8 or 9 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
as Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 ^ no idea what he used, he didn't enlighten me. My property is hidden under a cloud on Google maps anyway.... I'd have to drag the bin 150 yards uphill and across a cattlegrid and there is simply nowhere by the road to secure it. Even the nearest fences aren't accessible because of ditches. He asked if I could 'tie the bins to the cattlegrid' and I just said 'You are kidding, aren't you?' I suggested I could leave the recyclables by the side of the road (under a net like my ordinary rubbish) in the purple coloured sacks the SIC provided some years ago for plastics. That would really be the easiest solution but apparently that is 'not cost effective'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances144 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 I have numerous questions. But the main one is. If you clear up cat sick with paper towel, does it go in the paper box or the general kitchen waste? Auld Mossyface 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
as Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 aehm, I think it should go into your compost heap? ....and anyway we aren't supposed to be putting paper towel into the blue bin. It says so on the leaflet I still didn't receive, but found somebody's photo online and copied it to my desktop for future reference. naughty naughty Frances, tsktsktsk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 I suggested I could leave the recyclables by the side of the road (under a net like my ordinary rubbish) in the purple coloured sacks the SIC provided some years ago for plastics. That would really be the easiest solution but apparently that is 'not cost effective'. Maybe those bags aren't made out of the 'right kind of plastic' to recycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances144 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 you shouldn't compost meat, according to my OH who is very particular. as and MrBump 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muckinootthebyre Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Nobody in the SIC has any idea about this or how its going to work,they are just hoping that us the tax payer are going to do as they tell us,Mines is all still going into the black bag and they can sort it out any way they want,How do they know who's rubbish it is when they empty the big bin into the essy cart along with abody idders in a housing scheme we 30-40 houses. Ghostrider and Nigel Bridgman-Elliot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
as Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 I agree with your OH, Frances! Not being owned by a cat, I had a mental image of cat vomit being rather liquidy and already well digested.... that's the advantage of dogs: they eat theirs before you get a chance to clean up! (sorry, slightly off topic) Frances144 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThePMx Posted July 18, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Nobody in the SIC has any idea about this or how its going to work,they are just hoping that us the tax payer are going to do as they tell us,Mines is all still going into the black bag and they can sort it out any way they want,How do they know who's rubbish it is when they empty the big bin into the essy cart along with abody idders in a housing scheme we 30-40 houses. If all your rubbish is in there it won't take a genius to find out who's rubbish it is. You will get letters of warning, and every opportunity to recycle. However if you continue to intentionally and purposely not recycle you will get fined. Deservedly so if you refuse to even try. Considering Shetland is the last place in the UK to start doorstep recycling, there are plenty of local authorities to copy/learn from. The bonus of doing things last is you can learn from everyone's mistakes. You said before that "you are all for recycling". Follow what is on the list of things to recycle and recycle that, and fire the rest in the black bag then you will be alright. It's not rocket science. Acid, mikeyboy and Davie P 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 If all your rubbish is in there it won't take a genius to find out who's rubbish it is. With some folk, certainly, but unless they're going to resort to testing DNA samples, there's quite a few who they're going to have one hell of a job. Too many folk have seen the guy's on the essy kert tearing open bags and hunting through them over the years, to put anything in them that identifies anything to anyone. You said before that "you are all for recycling". Follow what is on the list of things to recycle and recycle that, and fire the rest in the black bag then you will be alright. It's not rocket science. Its not 'recycling' though, unless for the fact that's the name they've chosen to stick on it to try and con folk. Its taking a selected portion of folk's rubbish on a magical mystery tour around the country, and maybe even overseas, that will very probably consume more resources to do so than it would to create it from raw materials. The Cleaner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ghostrider Posted July 18, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) Nobody in the SIC has any idea about this or how its going to work,they are just hoping that us the tax payer are going to do as they tell us,Mines is all still going into the black bag and they can sort it out any way they want,How do they know who's rubbish it is when they empty the big bin into the essy cart along with abody idders in a housing scheme we 30-40 houses. *If* they'd stuck with a formula that's known to work for collecting rubbish in Shetland, and learned from a formula for collecting 'recyclable' rubbish elsewhere, and combined them, this crap could have worked, but the SIC have tried to be *smart*/*sneaky* at the same time, and that's whats sent the whole thing muckle sphincter first idda hol. Rubbish in bags has worked fine pretty much everywhere in Shetland since the early 70's, elsewhere in the U.K. LA's have had 'recyclling' collection systems that involve different coloured bags for different materials which are collected on different weeks. They even go as far as have printed on the bags whats supposed to be put in them....it works as well as it can given the fact humans are heavily involved..... The same system would have worked as well here, but some superfluous stuffed shirt had to try and be smart, and save a few minutes/pennies on collection times by sneaking in wheelie bins, and a few more by eliminating having to pull bags out from among the recycling stuff. Saving is very admirable and welcome, but when it moves things from being a realistically workable formula to one that largely impractical and overly complicated and as a result is unlikely to be successful, its a 'saving' too far. Bags are proven to be the most workable solution for Shetland, and a system of different bags for different materials has been proven to work elsewhere, and if they are serious about making this work here, they need to learn that much from themselves and from other areas. The bins are the biggest problem, they're not viable for a large chunk of our terrain, and equally unsuitable for our climate 7-8 month of the year. Had they been open to bagged recycling going in the bins, it might just have scammed through as it would have been handleable and recoverable if it blew away, but loose lightweight paper and plastic - just wait until autumn when we start getting Force 7's and 8's again.... Edited July 18, 2018 by Ghostrider thebfg, Nigel Bridgman-Elliot and The Cleaner 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerwick antiques Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 The SIC came up with the coloured bag scheme a few years ago, but seemed to come to a end soon after it started. The SIC have had various types of bins through out the years and non of them seem to last, mind the metal "dalek" bins they came with in the late 1960s, then they started putting those gray plastic bins which were basically coal bunkers, but the lids blew open and broke on many of them, then they started with plastic wheelie bins, which you were expected to buy from the SIC, then this recycling wheelie bins. What did folk do say pre1970? how was rubbish kept then? anyone know or remember? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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