mikeyboy Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 As regards to European rules, this will be under the remit of the Scottish Government, who will doubtlessly fall in line with anything the EU suggests.Please justify your claim. Hopefully we are not actually leaving Europe George Wheelsup you seem to be blissfully unaware that the Government is porting over EU legislation into UK law on Brexit.Read this it may enlighten you:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39266723 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Hopefully we are not actually leaving Europe George Hopefully we'll leave the E. U. though. After we've left it will be us that fishes our water and not the rest of the E. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyboy Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 It was a tongue in cheek reply to this line George"Don't know if they tell them to behave in the same way in Europe but we're out in March so what they do will be up to them." Not sure what fishing has to do with cycling but there you go https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fish+cycling+meme&rlz=1C1KMZB_enUS564US564&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=TkE9PSK_zUedhM%253A%252CvksKdMlC_GWAGM%252C_&usg=AFrqEzfP5vmNUVnRel3riUm4WcRLwl7LvA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiTmb_dl7PdAhUML8AKHeYACscQ9QEwA3oECAAQCg#imgrc=NgnosQXCp4B9-M: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 They don't all pedal their way, Mike. Some just walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Bridgman-Elliot Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Talking of fishing, I stumbled across this old TV programme 'TV Eye' earlier from 1981:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHhrJg6y7ZA> Europe - Fishing Industry - EEC - Common Market - 1981 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouth Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) Another cyclist here. I would echo that the cyclist has the same rights as anyone else to be on the road, but having said that I will pull in where it's safe and convenient to let people pass when they need to. Having been a truck and bus driver in the past I know how difficult it is to get past cyclists as you are bearing in mind their safety as well as that of oncoming traffic. On the whole though I would say that the Shetland drivers are extremely respectful of cyclists, giving them an extremely wide pass. A couple of knobbers, one in a Berlingo passed within reaching distance 3 times in 18 months, and another in a black Volvo X70 did the same, but only twice. They are the exception though. Of the car and cycle though, one costs you money and makes you fat, whilst the other saves you money and keeps you fit. If I remember correctly, it has been illegal to cycle on the pavements since the 1830s. Edited December 26, 2018 by BigMouth Muckle Oxters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muckle Oxters Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) If I remember correctly, it has been illegal to cycle on the pavements since the 1830s. Du has a very good memory if du minds dat far back Edited December 26, 2018 by Muckle Oxters RileyBKing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) ^ I guess its understandable that your average Georgian/Victorian pedestrian would have found sharing the cobbles or flags with a day-glo lycra clad individual hammering hell out of a penny farthing more than they could handle without an immediate dose of smelling salts at least. Edited December 27, 2018 by Ghostrider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) Not only is it illegal to pedal along the footpath. It's also illegal to ride a bicycle with no brakes. By law, a bike on a public road in the UK must have two brakes. Edited December 27, 2018 by George. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 I'm a cyclist, or used to be, and I can't help wondering if the time hasn't come to issue some kind of licence before cyclists are allowed to venture onto roads. Not very practical but, as someone who has ridden motorcycles and driven cars, it has always disturbed(?) me that cyclists are able to take to the highways without any kind of basic proficency test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouth Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 Not more laws! Cyclists are the ultimate losers in crashes. They're not surrounded by a ton of metal, so they will ride more defensively. You will always get bad cyclists, the same as you will get bad drivers. The last thing that we need is to be discouraging healthy exercise for the sake of minor inconvenience to car drivers. Car drivers can always get the bus, then it will be someone else's problem. Alternatively they can campaign for better cycling infrastructure, which improves life for everyone. Acid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances144 Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 Did you take your Cycling Proficiency Test? (i did, circa 1970) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 Did you take your Cycling Proficiency Test? (i did, circa 1970)Yes. A couple of hours weaving around cones in the school playground. All it proved was that I could weave around cones.! They must have been out of cars, buses, and lorries that day.. Frances144 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 "Cyclists are the ultimate losers in crashes" Which is why I think that they should be better prepared. It's for their own good you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaa22 Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 This is likely to come out sounding wrong.I don’t think licensing bicycles is going to work. There are always going to be bad cyclists out there just like there are vehicle drivers. There are those people that run red lights, speed, do the stupid overtakes and cause accidence. Allot of these kinds drivers don’t have licences, or have had and lost, they just hop in and go. What’s to stop someone doing so with bicycles?So how do you enforce such a thing? With a car it’s as said by someone else an expensive and big thing most will have 1 or 2 average. It’s registered to you and thus flags up on a system that you may or may not have a licence when it’s seen on the road. With a bicycle well I have 5 or 6, so I have to register them all or just one and move a plate around? What’s to stop someone from copying it and using it? It’s easy for a police man to see on the computer that the red Ferrari that just past is not a blue Ford Focus, but when a bicycle passes well all he sees is 2 wheals and a fat guy, it may be a Beorn Core-Line bicycle or maybe it’s a Carrera Parva Mens Hybrid Bike, who’s to say? (Yes I googled bike manufactures because I don’t know what the one with the big R for a logo is called.) The cost to implement such a system and enforce it would be huge, maybe when its setup it may make money for the government in the inevitable replacement for the fuel revenues but it would have to be well enforced and at the end of the day you will be having police chase a 10 year old over a plate violation rather than something else. But I don’t see people registering or approving on such a system. Just like terrorists registering their drones to not fly there drones over air ports or other restricted areas. It just makes it harder for the people who love to ride their bikes, be that every day, or just once a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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