Brexit (merged threads)

[Colin]

I would tend to agree..  Personally, I have at least 5 'valid' (and active) unique email addresses and, if I so wished, could use all 5 of them in any online poll.

 

Then there is the question of 'gmail', 'hotmail' and dozens of other email addresses that can be used just about 'anywhere' geographically.  How do you filter those out ?

 

I wouldn't go so far as to say that online polls have no validity but, they can very easily be manipulated into giving a false result.  Anyone who thinks/believes otherwise is living in a dreamworld.

 

Typically, polling stations are open for around 15 hours yet, the online poll seems to have no closure date/time.  Is it going to stay 'open' until the organisers get the result THEY want ?

[Capeesh]

As we all know, when the North boats are cancelled for a day or two our supermarket shelves empty rapidly, we know better than most what the result of shipping delays can mean. The UK has a huge network of 'just in time" supply chains from the continent where we get a large proportion of our food, medicine and other goods seamlessly, so what do we all think will happen when we turn Kent into the worlds biggest car park?

[Ghostrider]

We got those things equally seamlessly up unit 31st December 1972, and then went through a period where there were shortages of certain goods and others only available at grossly inflated prices for a year or two, because the EEC forced us not to import or export with nations the EEC didn't have a trade deal with, and it took the slow, lumbering, bureaucratic, red tape strangled, bloated beast of Brussels that long to get their finger out and sort it.

 

At least this time, its Westminster who are responsible for the success or otherwise of getting everything put back the way it was, not a bunch of faceless foreign speakers in a foreign country calling all the shots, like it was in '73. Which is cold comfort, given the Europhile fervour of the majority of the 650.

 

Had we had a competent efficient Government in power, the minute the vote count was in they should have swung in to action negotiating the alternative trade deals and supply chains that would become live of March 30th, so that the absolute max possible occured seamlessly. Instead we've had a bunch who have either buried their heads in the sand for 2 1/2 years hoping if they ignored it, it would go away, or have been pissing in the wind, only now in the last under 100 days to have them running around like headless chickens Private Jones stylee achieving nothing but making noise.

 

We have the absolute worst possible scenario outcome about to go down, of that there's virtually no argument, and its all the fault of Westminster. End of!

 

If there is a glimmer of hope, its that unlike the Government, private enterprise isn't so inept and stupid, and have put in place plans and contingencies to ensure supply chains suffer the minimum disruption despite the best efforts of the Government to ensure otherwise, as they are driven by only one thing, their own bottom line. They're not about to lose 1p profit over this, if there's even the slightest chance to can do anything to prevent it, whatever that may be.

[Rasmie]

The best thing they could do now is dissolve parliament, send them all home, on no pay. Let the civil servants along with business leaders sort it out. Then once its settled call an election. A lot of MP's behaviour, especially the government and shadow government, has been disgraceful, most have been too  busy trying to score political points that they have neglected the nation.

[Colin]

Far to much political posturing been going on from all sides.    Makes you wonder if the electorate are nothing more than an inconvenience to some of them.  It's a pity that we can't sack them all and start again with people who will genuinely represent the voters.

[hakama]

Well said.

[Ghostrider]

Its all Brexit's fault, apparently.

 

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/4055587/russian-bomber-jets-intercepted-raf-typhoons-nato-airspace-shetland/

 

Nearly bombed to oblivion in our beds by the bear if the RAF cavalry hadn't swooped in to save us, apparently.

 

With the ways things are in Edinburgh, London and Brussels, I think we should seriously consider lengthening Sumburgh a bit more, and renting it out to Putin as a forward base. He'd be up for it I would think, all that jet fuel he'd save on his trips to Iceland to check if Trump is awake and paying attention., I'd certainly feel much safer doing business with him than who we're currently in bed with.

[Colin]

Yes, it's good to see our "tax dollars" at work.

 

Wonder if Putin would be up to actually bombing London, Edinburgh, and Brussels   Just a thought..  

[Ghostrider]

Yes, it's good to see our "tax dollars" at work.

 

Wonder if Putin would be up to actually bombing London, Edinburgh, and Brussels   Just a thought..

 

He's gotten a bit nearer to them today before he was headed off at the pass, I reckon Holyrood is his primary objective.

 

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/4058084/russian-bomber-jets-uk-intercepted-raf-typhoons-nato-airspace-north-sea-scotland/

 

It is the scottish sun saying it though, and it is almost April 1st.

[Capeesh]

Can't blame Holyrood for this Brexit fiasco, this is Westminsters turd, the majority in Scotland (including Shetland) voted to remain, not a single local authority area in Scotland voted to leave. The views of the "devolved" government and the majority of people they represent have been frozen out and ignored.

Edited March 29, 2019 by Capeesh

[Ghostrider]

^ There's certainly plenty of other things to blame Holyrood for without need to lay Brexit on them as well.

 

You're right though, it is all Westminster's fault, they were the beggars who sanctioned the creation of the Holyrood monster in the first place.

Edited March 29, 2019 by Ghostrider

[Colin]

Can't blame Holyrood for this Brexit fiasco, this is Westminsters turd, the majority in Scotland (including Shetland) voted to remain, not a single local authority area in Scotland voted to leave. The views of the "devolved" government and the majority of people they represent have been frozen out and ignored.

 

Hmmm, I seem to remember that it was a National vote.  Rather than being ignored, Scotlands voters were in the minority and, therefore, Lost.

 

Don't worry to much about it.  There are enough lickspittle turncoats in Westminster to completely screw the democratic leave vote.

[Suffererof1crankymofo]

Just leave at 11pm tonight.  Who gives a flying {'f' it was funny in Father Ted 'eck'} that the extension is valid under international law because if we leave, who precisely is going to do us for breaking international law?  Besides, the SI extending it under UK law might well be illegal, because Gina Miller's Court action set a precedent that parliament has to be consulted first (or words to that effect).

 

11pm.  29 March 2019.  Just get the hell off the gravy train monster.

[Capeesh]

 

 

Can't blame Holyrood for this Brexit fiasco, this is Westminsters turd, the majority in Scotland (including Shetland) voted to remain, not a single local authority area in Scotland voted to leave. The views of the "devolved" government and the majority of people they represent have been frozen out and ignored.

 

 

Hmmm, I seem to remember that it was a National vote.  Rather than being ignored, Scotlands voters were in the minority and, therefore, Lost.

 

Don't worry to much about it.  There are enough lickspittle turncoats in Westminster to completely screw the democratic leave vote.

Yep you're right, we have to accept whatever England votes for, so much for the UK being a union of equals. Maybe there should be a EU wide democratic vote to see if the UK should remain, if the UK votes to leave but the majority of Europe votes for us to stay, tough luck, that's democracy.

[Colin]

But, that's the whole point !  The UK is a union of equals and, we ALL had a vote.  

 

As for Europe allowing (?) us to leave.  Didn't they try something similar 1939-45 ?  and, didn't DeGaul (who we helped massively) spend quite a bit of time and effort trying to prevent us from joining in the first place ?