Brexit (merged threads)

[Urabug]

Think it might be better to listen to a successful businessman's point of view rather than the crap we are getting from our parliamentary representatives who appear to be unable to do anything that makes sense.

 

How much money has it cost to provide 600 pages of toilet paper. (probably not even suitable for that)

 

https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/

[George.]

Ali Carbunkle was the Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland between 2007 and 2010. At present, he is the LibDimbo spokesperson for Northern Ireland. That shows, very clearly, just how interested he is in Shetland. It shows how interested he was in Scotland, when between October 2013 and May 2015 he was supposed to be the Secretary of State for Scotland. When he had left the post of Secretary of State for Scotland he stated that he was leaving politics for good. I wonder why he had to come out with that? Where is he now, three years later?

 

LibDem Alistair Carmichael admits responsibility for anti-Sturgeon leak

 

I don't like politicians that are no more than con artists.

Edited December 1, 2018 by George.

[Colin]

That would be all of them then ?

[George.]

That would be all of them then ?

Don't know if it's all of them, but then again I haven't heard nasty news about all of them. You may have, though.

[Suffererof1crankymofo]

@ Colin - ah yes, nearly 600 pages but in what appears to be one and a half line spacing, with some pages only containing a couple of paragraphs.

[Suffererof1crankymofo]

@Urabug - thanks for the link to Wetherspoons, interesting read!

[Davie P]

[Urabug]

Brexit: Facts vs Fears.

 

Fact plenty of other countries that are not members of the EU are managing  just fine so fear not the UK will and can do just as well clear of the EU.

 

Who in there right mind wants to be tied to the EU,having to jump to the demands of a non democratically elected clique from 27 other countries giving out the orders and demands.

 

Surely there is enough interference from our own elected members of parliament  without it coming from elsewhere.

 

Australia,New Zealand,Canada, South Africa,India,South Korea,Japan ect,ect all doing ok and are  not tied to the EU.

 

We should not accept this so called deal that Mrs May has negotiated as it  will not sever our ties to the EU and will leave us still firmly attached .

 

No deal might cost us all financially but what price is freedom to decide and make our own rules . 

[Wheelsup]

“No deal might cost us all financially but what price is freedom to decide and make our own rules . “

 

Easily said, but if you’re a young family trying to make ends meet, that’s not what you want to hear. Brexit is for nostalgic oldies.

[Rasmie]

If Theresa May’s Brexit deal fails, then we will end up with an election or another Brexit poll or both.

 

And then it’s anyones guess

[Urabug]

“No deal might cost us all financially but what price is freedom to decide and make our own rules . “

 

Easily said, but if you’re a young family trying to make ends meet, that’s not what you want to hear. Brexit is for nostalgic oldies.

Lets not forget the fine brave men and women who sacrificed everything in the past so we could have our freedom.

[Urabug]

If Theresa May’s Brexit deal fails, then we will end up with an election or another Brexit poll or both.

 

And then it’s anyones guess

Well the MV UK POLITICIAN has an ailing skipper and nearly all crew seem to be extremely seasick , indecisive and rebellious as she punches her way through tumultuous seas on her way to Brexit ,so possibly a new selection of officers and crew might be the answer.

[Colin]

The "reaminers" are just peddling "fear" as that is all they have to offer. 

 

The country voted for "freedom/independence" and, should get it.

[Davie P]

Question: Referendums are not a procedural part of British democracy so how long should there be between referendums on the same, or similar, questions?

 

Keep in mind that:

• It's about two and a half years since a fairly slim majority expressed their support for withdrawal from the EU.
• Since then, opinion polls have consistently indicated that a larger majority than the original vote wish to remain and/or regret their original vote

Therefore, I'm not sure it's a defendable position to say that Brexit "is the will of the people" when evidence suggests that currently, it is not.

 

A more accurate description is that Brexit "was the will of a slim majority of the people who voted in June 2016"

Edited December 3, 2018 by Davie P

[Colin]

@Davie P

Well Davie, you could say exactly the same about any election and, given that the current government doesn't have a clear majority, should we keep on having elections until we get a government that does ?

 

Also, as you are so  keen to point out the "procedural" element, 1%, 10%, 20%  a majority is just that, a majority !

We do not have an electoral system that allows politicians to "second guess" the will of the people and then change election results if they don't like the results.

 

As for "regrets", I suppose that they can be put down (in part anyway) to all the "fear mongering" that has been going on and politicians (and others) who prey on peoples fears are, imho, the lowest of the low.

Edited December 3, 2018 by Colin