Davie P Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 Shetland aims high in wake of Brexit - an interesting article from The Herald I saw on the national sources news section. It’s quite a good summary of Shetland’s post Brexit economy Windwalker and Roachmill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capeesh Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Australia free trade deal seems to be the beginning of the end for crofters in Shetland. Cheap meat imports galore! Another industry and way of life on the brink of destruction thanks to Brexit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Doom and Gloom.... Why don't you mention the thousands that the government will save on grants to crofters. ??? Anyway, I would be surprised if the 'common man' ever got access to cheap(?) meat.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capeesh Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) Good point. I’ll give it some thought while I’m tucking into my rubbery, chemically filled Australian lamb roast, quietly wondering why the dogs are turning their noses up at the scraps. Maybe you’re right, I really do struggle to find any positives from Brexit Britain. There’s probably loads of other plus points to take from Shetland’s crofters getting bludgeoned by the Brexit sledgehammer. Let me try and think positively... No noisy baaaaing, especially at this time of year. mmm..... OH! No sheep on the roads, that’s a good one... mmm... struggling here.... No more itchy gansey’s? Not sure about this one, wool can be bought. That’s all I can think of for me personally but I’m not a crofter. I can’t see it giving much comfort to those friends and family who either make a living from crofting or supplement their income from it. Edited May 21, 2021 by Capeesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 My guess is that the 'big' farmers will end up doing OK but, he 'part timers' are going to be 'thrown under the bus' by this lot down in Westminster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capeesh Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) What has the NFU really worried is if they throw farming under the bus in the Australian trade agreement it means any future trade agreement has that as a benchmark. When they approach USA, Canada, Brazil, New Zealand etc the first thing they’re going to say is “we want what you gave Australia and we’re not budging until we get it”. Economies of scale will lead to even the largest UK farmers struggling to compete. Edited May 22, 2021 by Capeesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 Then, you would have to ask why we need any 'Trade Deals' at all. Why not just lock the doors and throw the keys away ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Inky Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 51 minutes ago, Colin said: Then, you would have to ask why we need any 'Trade Deals' at all. Why not just lock the doors and throw the keys away ? I would imagine it is because other countries can produce things that we want that we can't produce here, for example oranges or bananas, and in turn, we can produce things that other countries can't. If we're going to be trading with another country, it makes sense to strike a trade deal to cut down on the red tape . Fjool and LGR PATONEXCHANGE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 Agreed, but why 'sell the the family silver' ? AFAIK, Australia does not produce oranges and bananas, at least not in any quantity.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Inky Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 Oranges and bananas were just examples of things that can't be produced in the UK. If you insist on an Australian example, you could pick bauxite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleJoannie Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 WIth Boris's proposed trip to India, which was cancelled, and the Australian agreement it appears to me that Boris is trying to reconnect with the UK's former colonies and restore our former glories as an imperial power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capeesh Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) I find it very telling that these stuck in the past ministers still believe they can strut over to Australia like imperial overlords. Looking down their noses and insulting their Australian counterparts is seriously counter-productive as we have just found out to our great cost. To the disbelief and amusement of the Australians, the highly experienced Australian trade envoy has dug his heels in, tied Liz Truss in knots and managed to get everything they were looking for in the trade negotiations. If you read this link, you’ll see the British exceptionalism dripping from these pompous morons. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/liz-truss-australia-trade-talks-b1835072.html?amp From the link... “She plans to sit him down in the Locarno Room [in the Foreign Office] in an uncomfortable chair, so he has to deal with her directly for nine hours,” said the source. The source reportedly described Mr Tehan as “inexperienced” compared to Ms Truss, adding: “He needs to show that he can play at this level.” Australia’s ABC News said the comments were greeted “with a mixture of disbelief and laughter” in Canberra. The inexperience jibe was regarded as all the more peculiar as before entering parliament, Mr Tehan worked from 1995 at the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade and later as senior adviser to the trade minister, before serving as director of trade policy and international affairs with the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry. Edited May 23, 2021 by Capeesh George. and Evil Inky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR PATONEXCHANGE Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Capeesh - If you ever end up purchasing a chemical rubbery lamb roast for you Sunday dinner whilst local produce is available - That will have been your choice and your fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capeesh Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 ^^ If local producers are pushed out of business with cheap imports and an end to subsidies the choice will be taken away from me. That’ll be the UK government’s fault. Evil Inky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR PATONEXCHANGE Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 Disagree, there is an ongoing growth in people making sustainable choices in food purchase, sustainable in that buying Shetland produce first followed by British is what we should all be doing. The power is always in the hands of the consumer. If we all adopt that mind set the local producers will flourish and without subsidy if we process less tax through inefficient supra national politburos.. By the way, supermarket freezers have been full of New Zealand lamb for years and many other globally sourced food stuffs line supermarket shelves, the choice has been there for many decades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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