Evil Inky Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Can just rescind article 50 and keep the same terms.Would it not have been a lot better if we had told Brussels that we were dumping them - from the outset? Would there then be any need for Article 50? Better for who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Better for us, who cares about them? After all, I understand they've done nothing more than strip us blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Inky Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 If a non-deal Brexit with two and a half year's notice would cause economic chaos, surely a no-deal Brexit with no warning at all would be even worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 I would prefer to see no notice and not one single euroboat fishing our waters. It would benefit our country, rather than giving it all away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmie Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 We already have foreign crews on local boats. Maybe have to reflag some foreign boats with an LK number to cope with all the fish. Whatever we will need immigrants from Scotland or Europe or farther east to work as we have very few people available here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urabug Posted December 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 We already have foreign crews on local boats. Maybe have to reflag some foreign boats with an LK number to cope with all the fish. Whatever we will need immigrants from Scotland or Europe or farther east to work as we have very few people available here.Anyone from Europe working in the UK just now is taking a pay cut just now due to the value of the pound to the euro. Could be that is why there are fewer migrants at the moment and not so much to do with Brexit. Some of our own young ones do not want to get their hands dirty,all they want is a job sitting on there a**e paying good money and a mobile phone, shame we have to get others to do the mediocre jobs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Inky Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 If a non-deal Brexit with two and a half year's notice would cause economic chaos, surely a no-deal Brexit with no warning at all would be even worse?I would prefer to see no notice and not one single euroboat fishing our waters. It would benefit our country, rather than giving it all away. It might benefit the fishing industry. It would devastate the car industry (whose supply chains rely on frictionless trade), and without the time to build up stockpiles of food and medicine, the consequences could be severe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyboy Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Can just rescind article 50 and keep the same terms.Would it not have been a lot better if we had told Brussels that we were dumping them - from the outset? Would there then be any need for Article 50? Better for who? Better for us, who cares about them? After all, I understand they've done nothing more than strip us blind. I think you have a poor understanding of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyboy Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 I would prefer to see no notice and not one single euroboat fishing our waters. It would benefit our country, rather than giving it all away.Most of the fish we catch is exported to the EU and most of the fish we consume is imported. Why would the EU allow us to export to their market if we won't allow them access to our waters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyboy Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 We already have foreign crews on local boats. Maybe have to reflag some foreign boats with an LK number to cope with all the fish. Whatever we will need immigrants from Scotland or Europe or farther east to work as we have very few people available here.Anyone from Europe working in the UK just now is taking a pay cut just now due to the value of the pound to the euro. Could be that is why there are fewer migrants at the moment and not so much to do with Brexit. Some of our own young ones do not want to get their hands dirty,all they want is a job sitting on there a**e paying good money and a mobile phone, shame we have to get others to do the mediocre jobs.. They aren't taking a pay cut if they have settled here.I think the tone of the comments from our media and politicians have a lot to do with the drop in EU migration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 If a non-deal Brexit with two and a half year's notice would cause economic chaos, surely a no-deal Brexit with no warning at all would be even worse?I would prefer to see no notice and not one single euroboat fishing our waters. It would benefit our country, rather than giving it all away.It might benefit the fishing industry. It would devastate the car industry (whose supply chains rely on frictionless trade), and without the time to build up stockpiles of food and medicine, the consequences could be severe. The big players in the game won't let that happen, too much money is at stake. Regardless that the government have done nothing but run around like headless chickens for 2 1/2 years, big business have been planning and implementing change throughout. It was next to nothing I ever bought from Tesco that originated in Europe anyway, but in that time they've relocated production of their own brand pate from Belgium to the UK, relocated the licence holder of their own brand paracetamol from Italy to Wales, and also relocated production of their own brand toliet paper also from Italy, to the UK. So, whatever the worst scenario Brexit brings, I know I can rely on Tesco to keep me well fed with pate, be able to take all the paracetamol I need to knock the pain out of the gut rot it gives me, and never want for paper to wipe up the explosive outcomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 It might benefit the fishing industry. It would devastate the car industry (whose supply chains rely on frictionless trade), and without the time to build up stockpiles of food and medicine, the consequences could be severe.There is no longer a car or vehicle industry in Scotland. There hasn't been for decades and the consequences have been severe. James VI got it badly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelsup Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Actually we do have a car industry. In that other polpular vote the Scottish people voted to remain in the UK. You can’t have it both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 We've just been back through this thread to clear out all the nested quotes, so please.... Don't use unnecessary and/or long quotes - When using the quote function, only quote the parts of a previous post directly relevant to your reply. Unnecessary quotations make page lengths excessive and unwieldy to navigate There is no need to quote the whole post made immediately prior to yours. Doing so breaks the flow of the conversation and forces people to re-read posts Alternatively, use a "^" symbol (to indicate you are refering to the post immediately above yours), use "" (to indicate you have truncated a long quote) or just post a reply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinner72 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 For the record, there's only ever been 3 UK wide referendums and all have been held relatively recently (in terms of the history of democracy in the UK) - 1975, 2011 and 2016. And ultimately all do do with entering or leaving the EU. I generally avoid these "debates" as so much is driven by selective belief in tabloid media and mob self righteousness, something epitomised by the (conveniently?) forgotten fact that a vote for Scottish Independence, either in 2011 or in the future, is a vote to leave the EU. Hypocrisy can be close to home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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