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Pensioners fuming over government ‘theft’


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  1. 1. Should men and women have the same pension age?

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Thanks George that is very useful.

 

And according to the Urban Dictionary, because the word has been previously mentioned on the thread, and we like links here!

 

Mansplaining

 

Stating accurate, verifiable facts. Especially when these facts are inconvenient to the feminist worldview, or contradict feminist talking points.

 

It is often used by a feminists who makes an incorrect claim in support of their narrative, and someone responds with something refuting the feminist’s claim, which she (usually it’s a she) cannot counter.

By claiming “mansplaining,” she tries to pretend to have invalidated her opponents claim, even though she has not addressed it at all.

 

Feminists: Women only make 77% of what men make for exactly the same work! Oh the patriarchy.

 

Factual Person: No, they don't. That statistic is just for overall median pay of full time workers, and does not account for overtime hours worked, location, experience, degree earned, or even the field someone is working in. Women make less on average because men and women make different career choices, because believe it or not, men and women are different

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The problem is we all expect more and more from all our services and this all costs more and more .

 

As tax payers the big question is how much tax should we pay and afford to pay  this includes all tax VAT, tax on wages /pension ect.

 

No matter what government is in power the need for more money to support all those extra demands is going to be a major problem and IMHO can only be fulfilled if we are prepared to pay more tax.

 

But when a country over taxes especially buisness they will move elsewhere taking jobs with them, so I see this as a difficult situation for any politician who has to decide on this.

 

That said the pension age should be set at say 65 and everyone should be encouraged  to contribute to a personal pension guarenteed by some government body ,that would add a little extra to the national pension.

 

Those who squander all there money and do not have a little bit set by will  have to continue to work longer,but this in itself raises another problem as many folk on "0" hr contracts  are lucky to survive from day to day far less contribute anything to a pension.and we cannot expect folk in there late sixties into there seventies to be able to do hard physical work.

 

It's a vicious circle as on average we live longer and put greater and greater demands on the public purse.

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The problem is we all expect more and more from all our services and this all costs more and more .

 

This is very true for many, but in doing so, as well as increasing costs of everybody, it has also encouraged some of the providers of services to become considerably more invasive and dictatorial in the lives of individuals, and attempt to be ever increasingly 'indispensable' to them.

 

The cost to all is objectionable enough, but the attitude its developing is dangerous on more than one level.

 

When you're getting GP's turning around and telling you, you don't have/haven't had something because you didn't/haven't "reported it to a medical professional and had it investigated and recorded', simply because you chose to just live with it and social services turning up on folk's doorsteps 'touting' for business, and being aghast and implying that there 'must be something wrong with you' when you tell them to mind their own damn beeswax and to sling their hook, our 'public services' have gone far too far in a very wrong direction.

 

Of course there should be a safety net of services paid for by the masses to care for those who need care they cannot provide for themselves, and want to accept that care, and there's a very good argument to be made for our public services to be rolled back to just that, as all this namby pamby, touchy feely nanny state crap is causing as many problems for those of us who want no part of it as its 'solving' for those who welcome it and lap it up, never mind the cost savings.

 

Its time for personal responsibility and paddle your own canoe wherever possible to become a thing again, freebies and an everything done for you by the state entitlement culture is turning far too many in to selfish, soft spongers and destroying all.

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Yes Ghostrider totally agree many establishments are " ripping us off" ,not directly in many cases but in a roundabout way especially when they know that it is the NHS or the council that is footing the bill.

 

The Pharmaceutical industry is a good example providing medicines in quantities that most will never use, and we all know of the extortionate costs of some medicines..it is everyone who pays tax that ultimately has to foot the bill.

 

We have paid national insurance all our working lives and this was supposed to provide our health care and pensions,and yes it probably would have done just that but for the fact that much of it is wasted on administration and other needless costs in many cases helping to keep someones fancy yacht afloat in some foreign port. 

 

If we lived in an honest nation where everyone was less greedy and  those who can were not lining there own pockets at the expense of others then there might well be enough to pay everyone a decent pension at a sensible age.

 

Folk are more dependent on others nowadays in the old days most folk would fend for themselves and did not want any handouts from the state.

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Yes Ghostrider totally agree many establishments are " ripping us off" ,not directly in many cases but in a roundabout way especially when they know that it is the NHS or the council that is footing the bill.

 

It should be noted that prescriptions in Scotland are free and have been for some time. However, it costs, as I understand it, £9.00 per item south of the border. I wonder who really pays the price?

 

Free prescriptions in Scotland

 

Prescription price in England

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Yes Ghostrider totally agree many establishments are " ripping us off" ,not directly in many cases but in a roundabout way especially when they know that it is the NHS or the council that is footing the bill.

 

It should be noted that prescriptions in Scotland are free and have been for some time. However, it costs, as I understand it, £9.00 per item south of the border. I wonder who really pays the price?

 

Free prescriptions in Scotland

 

Prescription price in England

 

But it is not "free" we are all paying in one way or another .

 

Who is paying for the lack of public toilets or the graveyards that are no longer being cared for ,is that the price of free prescriptions  :ponders:

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