Poll - 2019 Shetland MSP by-election

[George.]

^I wonder if you remember the percentages for and against at the last referendum? About 52% against.

 

I wonder if you are aware of the changes that have come about in the last two or three years. Now, in Scotland, it's something like 65% wishing to go it alone. In my opinion, letting Westminster strip the benefits of oil off us, strip the benefits of fishing off us and all the rest is wrong.

 

We are being stripped bare thanks to Westminster.

 

That's what Westminster calls democracy.

[Wheelsup]

Bit like Brexit. If you don’t get the answer you want , have another referendum! I have no doubt the central belt aka Holyrood will strip us bare as well. Aa wi ivver got fae Scotland wis dear meal an greedy ministers. Only this time they are not ecumenical.

[Urabug]

^I wonder if you remember the percentages for and against at the last referendum? About 52% against.

 

I wonder if you are aware of the changes that have come about in the last two or three years. Now, in Scotland, it's something like 65% wishing to go it alone. In my opinion, letting Westminster strip the benefits of oil off us, strip the benefits of fishing off us and all the rest is wrong.

 

We are being stripped bare thanks to Westminster.

 

That's what Westminster calls democracy.

No one has asked me ,but ma'be I do not count.

[Claadehol]

So "SNP" is now sprayed on the war memorial !  This sadly reflects the SNP independence insanity.

[Frances144]

Classy (not).  Seriously not.  Though it could've been done for exactly that reason.

[admin]

Re: vandalism of the war memorial (which, we understand, has now been cleaned off)

 

At this stage there is no evidence of who was responsible or their motives so let's not be distracted by speculation.

[Wheelsup]

I suspect that there wasn’t much thought put into it. Mindless vandalism. Don’t think we can blame the official SNP for that. Don’t think it’s a double bluff either - just mindless.

Perhaps a symptom of what happens when people confuse nationalism with antiestablishmentarianism.

No doubt encouraged by all the banners and posters fluttering in the wind like a call to arms.

[Windwalker]

^I wonder if you remember the percentages for and against at the last referendum? About 52% against.

 

I wonder if you are aware of the changes that have come about in the last two or three years. Now, in Scotland, it's something like 65% wishing to go it alone. In my opinion, letting Westminster strip the benefits of oil off us, strip the benefits of fishing off us and all the rest is wrong.

 

We are being stripped bare thanks to Westminster.

 

That's what Westminster calls democracy.

I remember it well, but that democracy, Shetland would be no better under an independent Scotland, they will also strip us bare.

[Ghostrider]

Management structures work the same whether they be in business, public services or political/governmental matters.

 

As far a political/governmental issues go, the EU robs and turds on its member nations, the UK robs and turds on its member countries, Scotland robs and turds on Shetland, Lerwick robs and turds on the Shetland countryside..... If you need proof of the latter, just look at the slester creation VE are up to in the central mainland right now, and the 'bigger, better, faster, more' more sites, bigger cable(s) etc proliferation following in their grummit wake......

 

Its not rocket science to conclude that the fewer layers there are above you, the less you get robbed and shat upon.

 

At the moment, Brussels and Holyrood are the least justifiable layers, we're (supposedly) getting rid of the former - time will tell on that one though. The latter, until or unless Scotland chooses independence, remains an unjustifiable robber and turdter we could well do without, a vote for Scots independence would change the dynamic and relevant issues completely, but the next referendum, if one happens, must be a choice between Scots independence or the dissolution of Holyrood - Shetland being lorded over by one layer of robbers and turdters is all we should be expected to stomach.

Edited August 22, 2019 by Ghostrider

[Windwalker]

SNPs Derek Mackay made the following comments according to the article on Shetland News.

 

 

“Asked if Shetland could expect the full £7.9 million Shetland Islands Council has asked for should islanders vote for the SNP candidate, Mackay said he was not prepared to set out Scotland’s budget in this interview.

 

But he added: “Do I think that Shetland’s hand will be strengthened by the election of Tom Wills? Yes I do. And do I believe there will be further progress on the internal ferries issue with Tom Wills as MSP? Yes I do.”

 

This again smacks of you have to be part of our club or your getting nowt. I see these type of remarks as nothing other than a firm of blackmail and bullying islanders into voting for them. They should be ashamed of themselves.

[Windwalker]

Re: vandalism of the war memorial (which, we understand, has now been cleaned off)

 

At this stage there is no evidence of who was responsible or their motives so let's not be distracted by speculation.

Couldn’t agree more, and I was delighted to see that the candidates had condemned the act of vandalism. Who ever did this and whatever their motives or political persuasion, should be ashamed, but a big round of applause and respect for the volunteers who stood and cleaned it off in quick time.

[Ghostrider]

SNPs Derek Mackay made the following comments according to the article on Shetland News.

 

 

“Asked if Shetland could expect the full £7.9 million Shetland Islands Council has asked for should islanders vote for the SNP candidate, Mackay said he was not prepared to set out Scotland’s budget in this interview.

 

But he added: “Do I think that Shetland’s hand will be strengthened by the election of Tom Wills? Yes I do. And do I believe there will be further progress on the internal ferries issue with Tom Wills as MSP? Yes I do.”

 

This again smacks of you have to be part of our club or your getting nowt. I see these type of remarks as nothing other than a firm of blackmail and bullying islanders into voting for them. They should be ashamed of themselves.

 

The same money will come our way from Holyrood regardless whether we put Wills in or not. We've heard their threats/promises too many times before to believe one damn word. Their last chance to redeem themselves was Humza's long time in the making north boat 'fare reductions', and we know how that panned out - Robbing Peter to pay Paul to lower some by hiking others to finance it. 'New money' was minimal, if any.

 

Nothing is going to change in 18 months, they've had 10 year to bribe us, and what we have is what that amounts to. Beyond 18 months, who knows, but it would seem the nats may no longer be a significant factor by then, their lustre as 'saviours' of Scotland and the bringers of utopia for all is looking pretty tarnished and fading more every day.

[Frances144]

Bribery.  Dowright grubby bribery.

[Urabug]

If all the press reports are correct then the old nursery rhyme comes to mind  "Old Mother Hubbard went to the cupboard".

 

You cannot promise what you ain't got and that goes for them all.

[George.]

You cannot promise what you ain't got and that goes for them all.

 

I think that you're quiet correct. Westminster proves it regularly, regardless of whether they've got a penny in their pocket or not.