Poll - 2019 Shetland MSP by-election

[ThePMx]

I listened to the UKIP candidate on Radio Shetland tonight. He might get a few more votes if somebody told him not to refer to this place as the Shetlands.

Wouldn't have thought so

[peeriebryan]

Here's a link to all the candidates' profiles on the Shetland News website - https://www.shetnews.co.uk/category/features/election-2019/

[JGHR]

 

I listened to the UKIP candidate on Radio Shetland tonight. He might get a few more votes if somebody told him not to refer to this place as the Shetlands.

Wouldn't have thought so

 

 

Sadly, I think you're probably right.

 

There are Shetlanders who will still vote for UKIP or, if they were standing their brethren in the Brexit party, regardless of how woefully under informed those party candidates may be about Shetland or its specific needs. 

 

I suppose that's democracy for you though, stupid people are allowed to vote, and they may vote for stupid candidates who will provide stupid representation. 

 

That's why free university education, in any discipline, provides a net benefit to society, and also why some politicians oppose it.

 

If the election were tomorrow I'd vote heads Michael Stout or tails Ryan Thomson. I think either one would do equally as good a job at achieving the best outcomes for Shetland.

 

It was heads - Michael Stout got my vote.

Edited August 1, 2019 by JGHR

[Spinner72]

^^ The problem with that is that no matter how dedicated, passionate or well prepared wither of them are, or any other candidate for that matter, the SNP Govt has now blatantly said in its flyer delivered yesterday the "no-one else can be trusted to oppose the tories and have real influence with our scottish government"

 

Basically we vote SNP or get totally ignored.

 

Which also means we are twice as likely to get taken out of Europe than the rest of the country...

[JGHR]

 

Basically we vote SNP or get totally ignored

 

An independent in a hung parliament can’t be ignored. That’s what I’m hoping for in 2021. Even Tavish, when he was in a powerful position in government, was constrained in his ability to put Shetland first. An independent, free from the whip, can and should unashamedly put his constituents first and to hell with the rest of the country.

[Claadehol]

Please take the unwanted SNP leaflet that pops through your door and pop it in an envelope, stampless, and send it to: 

 

Scottish National Party,

Gordon Lamb House,

3 Jackson's Entry,

Edinburgh.

EH8 8PJ

 

Please let these islands remain free of the Scottish independence mania.

[Davie P]

Prisoners get to vote for first time in Scotland at Shetland by-election

 

Interesting!

[Nigel Bridgman-Elliot]

> Shetland voted resoundingly to remain in the EU that
> democratic cry has been completely ignored.

Some parts, other parts less so..

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/general-election/shetland-district-had-highest-leave-vote-in-scotland-1-4359193
> Shetland district ‘had highest Leave vote in Scotland’
 

> Two remote communities in Shetland returned the highest pro-Leave vote in Scotland,
> analysis of last year’s Brexit referendum has found. The 567 voters in the combined polling
> districts of Whalsay and South Unst returned a Leave vote of 81 per cent - the highest north
> of the border so far identified.

 

[Nigel Bridgman-Elliot]

I guess we need a top ten list of reasons to vote for X over Y then.

What might they be ?

Ferry prices ?

Ferry capacities ?

Tunnels.. ?

Electricity prices ?
 

[George.]

I wonder just what sort of democracy Antony Eden gave us when he inflicted the Functioning of the European Union upon us, with no democracy whatsoever?

 

Of course, that's Westminsters idea of Democracy - but I don't think that it's anybody else's, as I would at least hope.

Edited August 5, 2019 by George.

[Davie P]

As has been noted several times, Britain wasn't a signatory of the 1957 Functioning of the European Union when Eden was PM.
 
As you said yourself when I pointed this out a couple of months ago in another thread...

^ You're quite correct, Davy. In '57 Belgium, West Germany, France, Italy, Luxembourg and the Netherlands, and possibly one or two more, were signatories regarding the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union, also known as the Treaty of Rome.

Edited August 6, 2019 by Davie P

[Muckle Oxters]

I guess we need a top ten list of reasons to vote for X over Y then.

 

At da tap o my list wid be cost o travel tae da outside world, and da reliability of flights.

 

I'm mibee gettin complacent in me old age but I dunna hae much tae complain aboot!

[Claadehol]

The SNP have held back on too much help from Shetland, up to now.... We voted the wrong way you see!  This was obviously SNP policy.

 

I see the hopeful SNP candidate here now offering all sorts of help now for Shetland, from ferry fares to airport parking. Shetland issues will be prioritised in Edinburgh.

 

They are desperate to get a foothold in Shetland. Good tactics here from the SNP but feels a bit like blackmail. 

 

As a result I will place my vote elsewhere.

[mikeyboy]

Not really just a candidate in a by-election addressing local issues which is perfectly normal.

Be honest you were never going to vote SNP were you?

[Claadehol]

You may be right Mikey, but if they weren't so scheming I might have considered it.

 

Mr Wills has put it rather well though, it ties in with the long term plan. Only an SNP man in Shetland can get any kind of a deal for Shetland from an SNP government in Edinburgh. We can get things done if you finally vote the right way. An SNP man in Shetland can overturn decisions made at Hollyrood when Shetland was holding out against the Scottish independence party. These decisions were calculated.

 

A one party state is the only way forward apparently. If that is the case God help us!