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@Fatalpapercut - I'm not your love and thankfully, I never will be.

 

And that's fully reciprocated. It's a figure of speech. Would you rather I used a more colourful four letter word?.

 

We hold opposing views. The way you come across though, perhaps unintentionally, is that nobody is allowed to have opposing views.

 

Oh please. Physician, heal thyself.

 

Anyway, that's an assertion. Not fact. Even if it were true, you're far more guilty of that than I.

 

@paulb - steady there, you're saying what many of us have said for years (but sssh, wouldn't want anyone to think you were scaremongering).

 

Blah blah not enough car parking, blah blah how many turbines have collapsed haven't been reported, blah blah etc, etc.

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as i said they own quite a few

 

Country

City Name Number of turbines

Power Operator

United-Kingdom

Innerwick Aikengall 16 turbines

48,000 kW Community Wind Power Co.

United-Kingdom

Alltwalis Alltwalis 10 turbines

23,000 kW Catamount Energy Ltd

Germany Alsfeld-Billertshausen 1 turbine

1000 kW ND

Germany Alsfeld-Billertshausen 1 turbine

600 kW ND

Germany Alsleben-Saale 9 turbines

13,500 kW GE

Germany Alsleben-Saale 28 turbines

42,000 kW GE

Germany Alt Bennebek 1 turbine

1500 kW ND

Germany

Alt Mahlisch Alt Mahlisch 1 turbine

1800 kW E.dis

Germany

Alt Mahlisch Alt Mahlisch 3 turbines

4,500 kW E.dis

Germany

Alt Mahlisch Alt Mahlisch 2 turbines

3,600 kW E.dis

Germany

Altdorf Altdorf 1 turbine

1500 kW ND

Germany Altefähr 1 turbine

500 kW ND

Germany Altefähr 8 turbines

2,400 kW WIDEMAG

Germany Altenau 1 turbine

165 kW ND

Germany Altenbeken 3 turbines

3,000 kW ND

Germany Altenbeken 1 turbine

200 kW ND

Germany Altenbeken 1 turbine

450 kW ND

Germany Altenbeken 4 turbines

600 kW ND

Germany Altenbeken 18 turbines

43,400 kW ND

Germany Altenbeken 8 turbines

1,200 kW ND

Germany Altenbeken 12 turbines

7,200 kW ND

Germany Altenbeken 2 turbines

500 kW ND

Germany Altenbeken 1 turbine

225 kW ND

Germany Altenbeken 6 turbines

3,000 kW ND

Germany Altenberge 2 turbines

3,000 kW ND

Germany Altenberge 1 turbine

80 kW ND

Germany Altenberge 14 turbines

14,000 kW ND

Germany Altenberge 1 turbine

800 kW ND

Germany

Altenkirchen Altenkirchen 1 turbine

45 kW ND

Germany Altenroda ND turbines

1,320 kW ND

Germany

Altentreptow Altentreptow 15 turbines

30,000 kW WEB Windenergie AG

Germany Alterkülz 2 turbines

4,000 kW ND

Germany

Altes Lager Altes Lager 18 turbines

36,000 kW ND

Germany Altgalendorf 1 turbine

500 kW ND

Germany Altjellingdorf 1 turbine

2300 kW ND

Germany Altlandsberg 7 turbines

14,000 kW ND

Germany Altlandsberg 2 turbines

4,000 kW ND

Germany Altlandsberg 2 turbines

1,700 kW ND

Germany Altlüdersdorf 2 turbines

1,700 kW ND

Germany Altlüdersdorf 1 turbine

2000 kW ND

Germany Altlüdersdorf 5 turbines

10,000 kW ND

Germany Altlüdersdorf 11 turbines

16,500 kW ND

Germany Altmahlisch 2 turbines

1,000 kW ND

Germany Altreetz-Altwustrow 1 turbine

1300 kW ND

Germany Altweidelbach 2 turbines

2,000 kW ND

Germany Altweidelbach 1 turbine

1500 kW ND

Germany Altweidelbach 2 turbines

3,000 kW ND

Germany Altweidelbach 5 turbines

5,000 kW ND

Germany Alzey-Heimersheim 1 turbine

800 kW Energiequelle

Germany Alzey-Heimersheim 1 turbine

800 kW Energiequelle

Germany Amalienhof 1 turbine

660 kW ND

Germany Amalienhof 1 turbine

2000 kW ND

Germany

Amstetten Amstetten 1 turbine

1300 kW ND

Germany

Amstetten, Schalkstetten Amstetten-Schalkstetten 1 turbine

1300 kW ND

Germany

Amstetten, Schalkstetten Amstetten-Schalkstetten 1 turbine

1300 kW ND

Germany Andervenne 1 turbine

80 kW ND

Germany Anemolter 3 turbines

4,500 kW ND

Germany Angermünde 1 turbine

1800 kW ND

Germany Ankum 1 turbine

500 kW ND

Germany Anröchte 6 turbines

3,000 kW ND

Germany Anröchte 1 turbine

800 kW ND

Germany Anröchte 6 turbines

6,000 kW ND

Germany Anröchte 17 turbines

10,200 kW ND

Germany

Anröchte Anröchte 1 turbine

1000 kW ND

United-Kingdom

Antrim Antrim Area Hospital 1 turbine

660 kW Antrim Area Hospital

Germany Apelern 3 turbines

1,800 kW ND

Germany Apen 7 turbines

12,600 kW ND

Germany Apen 4 turbines

7,200 kW ND

Germany Apfeltrach 2 turbines

1,200 kW ND

Germany

Appel Appel 1 turbine

500 kW ND

United-Kingdom

Busbie Muir Ardrossan

Extension 3 turbines

6,000 kW Scottish & Southern

Germany Arneburg 2 turbines

3,600 kW ND

Germany Arneburg 3 turbines

1,800 kW ND

Germany Arneburg 1 turbine

500 kW ND

Germany Arneburg 22 turbines

33,000 kW ND

Germany Arneburg 4 turbines

6,400 kW ND

United-Kingdom Arnish Moor 3 turbines

3,900 kW Wind Prospect

Germany Arnstedt 4 turbines

8,000 kW ND

Germany Arnstedt 1 turbine

500 kW ND

Germany Artern 12 turbines

12,000 kW ND

Germany Artern 5 turbines

3,000 kW ND

Germany Artern 2 turbines

4,000 kW ND

United-Kingdom Artfield Fell 15 turbines

19,500 kW Scottish & Southern

Germany Arup 2 turbines

1,000 kW ND

United-Kingdom

Askam in Furness Askam

Far Old 7 turbines

4,620 kW E.ON Climate Renewables

France Availles-Limouzine 7 turbines

14,000 kW Falck Renewables

United-Kingdom Bagmoor 4 turbines

8,000 kW Wind Prospect

United-Kingdom

Mablethorpe Bambers Farm

Extension 6 turbines

4,800 kW Ecotricity

United-Kingdom Barrow 30 turbines

90,000 kW Dong Energy

United-Kingdom Beaufort Court (RES Office) 1 turbine

225 kW RES

United-Kingdom Ben Aketil 2 turbines

4,600 kW Falck Renewables

United-Kingdom Ben Aketil 10 turbines

23,000 kW Falck Renewables

United-Kingdom Bicker Fen 13 turbines

26,000 kW EDF-EN

United-Kingdom Black Hill 22 turbines

28,600 kW RES

United-Kingdom Blaen Bowi 3 turbines

3,900 kW Windjen Power Ltd

United-Kingdom Boyndie Airfield 7 turbines

14,000 kW Falck Renewables

United-Kingdom Boyndie Extension 1 turbine

2300 kW Falck Renewables

United-Kingdom

Avonmouth Bristol Port Wind Park Ltd 3 turbines

6,000 kW Ecotricity

United-Kingdom Broom Hill (includes Sunnyside) 4 turbines

8,000 kW EDF-EN

United-Kingdom Burbo Bank 25 turbines

90,000 kW Dong Energy

United-Kingdom Burra Dale

Extension 2 turbines

1,700 kW Shetland Aerogenerators Ltd

United-Kingdom Burra Dale 3 turbines

1,980 kW Shetland Aerogenerators Ltd

United-Kingdom Burton Wold Wind Farm 10 turbines

20,000 kW AES

Spain

Muel Cabezo de San Roque 31 turbines

23,250 kW Eolica Cabzo de San Roque SA

United-Kingdom Cairnhill 3 turbines

2,400 kW ND

United-Kingdom Carcant 3 turbines

6,900 kW Scottish & Southern

United-Kingdom

Carno Carno

Extension 12 turbines

15,600 kW Amegni

United-Kingdom Cefn Croes 39 turbines

58,500 kW Falck Renewables

United-Kingdom Chelker Reservoir 4 turbines

1,200 kW Yorkshire Water Services

United-Kingdom Craig Wind Farm 4 turbines

10,000 kW Craig Wind Farm Company

United-Kingdom Croda Chemicals Europe Hull Site 1 turbine

2000 kW Croda Chemicals Europe

United-Kingdom

Dunbar Crystal Rig

1a 5 turbines

12,500 kW Natural Power/Fred Olsen

United-Kingdom Dalswinton - Pennyland Moor 4 turbines

8,000 kW Scottish & Southern

United-Kingdom Deeping St Nicholas 6 turbines

12,000 kW EDF-EN

United-Kingdom Drumderg 16 turbines

36,800 kW Scottish & Southern

United-Kingdom Dummuie 7 turbines

12,250 kW ECO2

United-Kingdom Earlsburn 15 turbines

37,500 kW Falck Renewables

United-Kingdom Eastman

Voridian 2 turbines

4,000 kW Wind Prospect

United-Kingdom Edinbane 18 turbines

41,400 kW Vattenfall

United-Kingdom Fairburn Estate 20 turbines

42,000 kW Scottish & Southern

United-Kingdom

Ludney Fen Farm Re-submission 20 turbines

16,000 kW Ecotricity

United-Kingdom Findhorn Foundation

Moya 4 turbines

300 kW Findhorn Foundation

United-Kingdom Fintry 1 turbine

2500 kW FREE Turbine

United-Kingdom Forss

Extension 4 turbines

5,200 kW RES

United-Kingdom Glass Moor 8 turbines

16,000 kW EDF-EN

United-Kingdom Glens of Foudland 20 turbines

26,000 kW Centrica

United-Kingdom Greater Gabbard 1 80 turbines

288,000 kW Scottish & Southern

United-Kingdom Greendykeside 2 turbines

4,000 kW Wind Prospect

United-Kingdom Gruig 10 turbines

25,000 kW BNP Paribas Clean Energy Partners

United-Kingdom Gunfleet Sands 30 turbines

108,000 kW Dong Energy

United-Kingdom Hadyard Hill - Barr 52 turbines

119,600 kW Scottish & Southern

United-Kingdom Hafoty Ucha

Hafoty Ucha II 2 turbines

1,700 kW Tegni

United-Kingdom Hafoty Ucha

Hafoty Ucha III 1 turbine

850 kW ND

United-Kingdom Hafoty Ucha

Hafoty Ucha I 1 turbine

600 kW Tegni

United-Kingdom Harlock Hill 5 turbines

2,500 kW Energy4All Ltd

United-Kingdom Haverigg II 4 turbines

2,400 kW Energy4All Ltd

United-Kingdom Haverigg III 4 turbines

3,400 kW Wind Prospect

United-Kingdom

Tow Law High Hedley Hope

Extension 4 turbines

5,200 kW Cumbria Wind Farms

United-Kingdom High Pow 3 turbines

3,900 kW REG Windpower

United-Kingdom Hill of Balquhindachy 1 turbine

850 kW Grant Mackie

Germany Hohengörsdorf 2 turbines

4,000 kW ND

United-Kingdom Kentish Flats 30 turbines

90,000 kW Vattenfall

United-Kingdom Kilbraur

Extension 8 turbines

20,000 kW Falck Renewables

United-Kingdom Kilbraur

Strathbrora 19 turbines

47,500 kW Falck Renewables

United-Kingdom Knabs Ridge - Felliscliffe 4 turbines

8,000 kW RWE

United-Kingdom Langley Park/Long Edge 4 turbines

8,000 kW EDF-EN

France

St-Georges-des-Gardes Le Fouy 4 turbines

10,000 kW Falck Renewables

France

La Tourlandry, Coron Les Crêtes 4 turbines

10,000 kW Falck Renewables

United-Kingdom Lissett Airfield 12 turbines

30,000 kW Infinis

United-Kingdom Little Cheyne Court 26 turbines

65,000 kW RWE

United-Kingdom Lochhead Farm 3 turbines

6,150 kW A7 Energy Ltd

United-Kingdom Loftsome Bridge Water Treatment Works 2 turbines

2,600 kW Yorkshire Water Services

United-Kingdom London Array 175 turbines

630,000 kW Dong Energy/E.ON Climate Renewables

United-Kingdom Long Hill Road 1 turbine

2000 kW Wind Prospect

United-Kingdom Long Park 19 turbines

38,950 kW EDF-EN

United-Kingdom

Worktington Lowca 7 turbines

4,620 kW E.ON Climate Renewables

United-Kingdom McCains Foods 3 turbines

9,000 kW McCains

United-Kingdom

Invergarry Millennium

Extension 6 turbines

15,000 kW Falck Renewables

United-Kingdom

Invergarry Millennium 16 turbines

40,000 kW Falck Renewables

United-Kingdom

Invergarry Millennium

Extension 4 turbines

10,000 kW Falck Renewables

Italy Minervino 26 turbines

59,800 kW Falck Renewables

United-Kingdom

Conwy Moel Maelogen 3 turbines

3,900 kW GT O+M

United-Kingdom

Conwy Moel Maelogen

Extension 6 turbines

7,800 kW Ail Wynt Cyf Ltd

United-Kingdom Mynydd Clogau 17 turbines

14,450 kW Infinis

United-Kingdom Ness Point

Drig 1 turbine

2750 kW Triodos Renewables

United-Kingdom North Redbog 2 turbines

1,600 kW Enercon

United-Kingdom

Workington Oldside 16 turbines

9,600 kW E.ON Climate Renewables

United-Kingdom Ormonde 30 turbines

150,000 kW Vattenfall

United-Kingdom

Halifax Ovenden Moor 23 turbines

9,200 kW E.ON Climate Renewables

United-Kingdom Owenreagh

Extension 6 turbines

5,100 kW South Western Services

United-Kingdom Pates Hill 7 turbines

14,000 kW AES

United-Kingdom

Elgin Pauls Hill

Extension 4 turbines

9,000 kW Natural Power/Fred Olsen

United-Kingdom Port of Liverpool / Mersey Docks 4 turbines

10,000 kW Peel Wind Power Ltd

United-Kingdom Red Tile 12 turbines

24,000 kW EDF-EN

United-Kingdom Roskrow Barton 2 turbines

1,700 kW REG Windpower

United-Kingdom

Penistone Royd Moor 13 turbines

6,500 kW E.ON Climate Renewables

United-Kingdom Rusholme 12 turbines

24,600 kW EDF-EN

Italy

San Sostene San Sostene

Part 2 15 turbines

37,500 kW Falck Renewables

Italy

San Sostene San Sostene

Part 1 28 turbines

42,000 kW Falck Renewables

United-Kingdom Scout Moor 26 turbines

65,000 kW Peel Wind Power Ltd

United-Kingdom Scroby Sands 30 turbines

60,000 kW E.ON Climate Renewables

United-Kingdom

Green Ore Shooters Bottom Farm 1 turbine

2000 kW Ecotricity

United-Kingdom

Worktington Siddick 7 turbines

4,200 kW E.ON Climate Renewables

United-Kingdom Sigurd 1 turbine

1300 kW Triodos Renewables

United-Kingdom Slieve Rushen Repowering 18 turbines

54,000 kW B9 Energy

United-Kingdom

Sanday Spurness Wind Farm 0 turbine

0 kW Scottish & Southern

United-Kingdom St Johns Wells 3 turbines

2,400 kW St John’s Wells Wind Farm Limited

United-Kingdom Stags Holt 9 turbines

18,000 kW E.ON Climate Renewables

United-Kingdom Swansea Docks 1 turbine

250 kW EnergyTech

United-Kingdom Tangy 15 turbines

12,750 kW Scottish & Southern

United-Kingdom Tappaghan Mountain

Extension 6 turbines

9,000 kW Scottish & Southern

United-Kingdom Thanet 100 turbines

300,000 kW Vattenfall

United-Kingdom The Hollies 2 turbines

2,600 kW RWE

United-Kingdom Tir Mostyn & Foel Goch 25 turbines

21,250 kW Wind Prospect

United-Kingdom Toddleburn 12 turbines

27,600 kW Scottish & Southern

France

Mont Dore Touongo 18 turbines

4,950 kW Aerowatt

United-Kingdom Trimdon Grange 4 turbines

5,200 kW Cumbria Wind Farms

France

Ty-Ru Ty-Ru 5 turbines

10,000 kW Falck Renewables

France

Viapres Le Petit Viapres 2 1 turbine

2000 kW Eolfi

United-Kingdom Walkway - High Swainston 7 turbines

14,000 kW EDF-EN

United-Kingdom Wansbeck Blyth Harbour 9 turbines

2,700 kW Hainsford Energy Wansbeck Blyth Harbour Ltd

United-Kingdom Watten

Bilbster 3 turbines

3,900 kW RWE

United-Kingdom

Carsphairn Windy Standard 36 turbines

21,600 kW RWE

United-Kingdom Winscales

Extension 8 turbines

6,800 kW Wind Prospect

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Fatal paper cut, you really don't like anyone to have a differing view from your own do you.

 

What age are you, 14? Grow up and have an adult debate :?

 

Oh no, you've found me out. My life is over.

 

This is the internet. There are differences in opinion. I do not have a problem with other people's opinion differing from mine, but I will defend my point of view when prompted to do so.

 

Get over it or stfu. I don't really care which.

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Fatal paper cut, you really don't like anyone to have a differing view from your own do you.

 

What age are you, 14? Grow up and have an adult debate :?

 

Oh no, you've found me out. My life is over.

 

This is the internet. There are differences in opinion. I do not have a problem with other people's opinion differing from mine, but I will defend my point of view when prompted to do so.

 

Get over it or stfu. I don't really care which.

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Fatal paper cut, you really don't like anyone to have a differing view from your own do you.

 

What age are you, 14? Grow up and have an adult debate :?

 

Oh no, you've found me out. My life is over.

 

This is the internet. There are differences in opinion. I do not have a problem with other people's opinion differing from mine, but I will defend my point of view when prompted to do so.

 

Get over it or stfu. I don't really care which.

I rest my case :?

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mmm im miss reading something here i thought Shetland Aero generators Ltd owned them but it turns out some italian company does.

 

if this is correct how did Shetland Aerogenerators Ltd get a loan from the trust in the past.

 

this smells a bit.

 

they seem to own a lot of stuff

http://www.thewindpower.net/owner_en_169_falck-renewables.php

 

Could it be that they (certain Directors) are raising capital for VE project perhaps? When did they sell out to Falck Renewables? TBH, haven't really paid attention to Burradale.

 

I had a look on the Companies House website. It would appear that the Shetland Aerogenerators Annual Return should be filed about now. That will give some answers about share ownership.

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I am a bit confused confused about reliability theory - although I agree that the probability of breakdowns will increase with an increasing number of components, is there not a trade-off with redundancy? For example, if one turbine at burradale shuts down, they have lost 20%, but if it is only one turbine out of 100, that is just 1%?

 

Yes that is true if only one turbine were to fail in each windfarm. But because the probability of failure increases with the number of components it is likely that for every failure at Burradale there will be a great deal more in the larger windfarm, if everything else is equal. The problem is exacerbated when you introduce critical components like the interconnector or convertor station, a complex machine by itself, any failure of one of those items will very quickly reduce the capacity factor of the Viking windfarm towards 0%. It is fallacy to claim that because Burradale achieves a capacity factor of around 50% Viking will do the same. It won’t.

 

But everything else isn't equal. The VE turbines will be larger and less complicated, newer designs. Personnally, I think the VE windfarm will be at least as good, if not better than the Burradale one.

 

But there's no point arguing about it. We'll find out once it's built.

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But everything else isn't equal. The VE turbines will be larger and less complicated, newer designs. Personnally, I think the VE windfarm will be at least as good, if not better than the Burradale one.

 

Newer is not necessarily always better, check out the bathtub curve. I hope you are proved right about it's perfomance but I don't think you will be.

 

But there's no point arguing about it. We'll find out once it's built.

 

That is true, neither of us can predict exactly how it will perform, nobody can at this stage, not even SSE, they can only make best case approximation. Even once it is built, it will not be possible to catagorically predict how it will continue to perform in the future.

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