Shetland windfarm - Viking Energy

[MuckleJoannie]

A meeting of the Charitable Trust has been called on Monday 16 April to agree funding for Viking Energy now that the go ahead has been given by the Scottish government

 

http://www.shetnews.co.uk/news/3795-viking-funding-meeting-rescheduled.html

[Dratsy]

A meeting of the Charitable Trust has been called on Monday 16 April to agree funding for Viking Energy now that the go ahead has been given by the Scottish government

 

http://www.shetnews.co.uk/news/3795-viking-funding-meeting-rescheduled.html

 

makin sure dey get dir hands on wir money afore dey ir kicked oot next month

[ArabiaTerra]

According to the prophet AT if we do not cut emissions right now then the planet is doomed, yet China, India and the rest of the third world are going to carry on increasing their emissions indefinitely.

 

China is investing more money in wind energy than any other nation in the world.

 

It is a simple fact that global warming is just a scam to relieve the likes of you and me of even more money to keep us permanently in debt and beholding to a rich few.

 

REMEMBER AL GORE IS GOD AND AT IS HIS PROPHET.

 

So, Dratsy logic for ignoring the advice of every major scientific institute on Earth:

 

"It's all a conspiracy" and "AL GORE IS FAT!!!?11?"

 

Wow, your stunning insight and logic are overwhelming, all our problems are over, All Hail the Great Drat.

 

Moron.

 

Whitelees has huge subsidies - do you really think that financial advisors in the square mile and elsewhere have not cottoned onto the fact that other countries are now realising that windfarms are not such a money spinner in the longer term and should these subsidies disappear, they would NOT make a profit?

 

If the subsidies were removed from fossil fuels, then wind and solar would be profitable at today's prices. And fossil fuel prices are only going to rise in the future.

 

What puzzles me is when this was all first preposed VE stated that there had to be at least 123 turbines to make it all viable but it has now been wittiled down to 103 turbines .So how is it now viable are the turbines going to be bigger/ more powerfull or what has changed.

 

There are two factors at work here. A smaller windfarm means a cheaper windfarm, and electricity prices have risen in the meantime.

 

Also, VE are looking at installing more powerful turbines than the 3.6 Mw originally evvisioned, so this will raise the output of the windfarm without increasing the number of turbines.

 

Don't forget the tens of thousands of gallons of oil these turbines will contain.

 

Oh come on, PJ. I know you're against this thing, but stop making up lies. It doesn't help your case.

 

Like most Shetlanders I'm not against windfarms/power but on a scale fit for purpose. I wouldn't mind seeing Shetland powered, if it was financially viable. As I understand it, we're not even going to benefit via cheaper electricity from the VE project!.

 

That's just it Kavi, it's not financially viable. And you wouldn't benefit from cheaper electric anyway even if someone (who?) did build a Shetland only renewable system.

[orkneypaul]

AT in the words of another Orcadian (more famous than I) callin Dratsy a moron is no big and hids no clever as for sayin hids lies about oil, well hids no, what the hell do you think lubricates the gearboxes (and they shed hid like an eighteen year old on their first major piss up).

Anyway thats no really why I am postin here I am askin you to mount a crusade on Goverments to ban all lighting other than LED, which overnight would drop world electricity output by 16% and also stop toxins like mercury being used, now If your such a good friend of the earth off you go and research hid and stop postin complete rubbish (without any form of evidence) on here and let the not so closed minded have a propper debate on this issue

[Skyumpi]

Here's a link showing a partially prepared base for a much smaller 2MW turbine.

 

 

The VE turbines are sustantially larger at 3.6MW, possibly rising to 4+MW in light of the reduced number. How can tearing apart our hills to build over a hundred of these and the network of roads, substations, crane pads, quarries and compounds be seen as "green"?

[stilldellin]

Surely VE are no daft enough to attempt to install turbines with gearboxes ?

http://www.technologyreview.com/energy/37983/?mod=related

[Skyumpi]

t;]Don't forget the tens of thousands of gallons of oil these turbines will contain.

 

Oh come on, PJ. I know you're against this thing, but stop making up lies. It doesn't help your case.

 

If they are to be Siemens 3.6MW turbines then 104 of them would contain over 17 thousand gallons in their transmission system gearboxes alone.

 

http://www.energy.siemens.com/hq/en/power-generation/renewables/wind-power/wind-turbines/swt-3-6-107.htm#content=Technical%20Specification

 

How much do you think will be in the Substation transformers?

[clanchief]

I was talking today to one of the researchers hoping to be involved in the next stage of work on this project, and as a sub contracter to him, I asked them about finance and they said that they had spoken to VE yesterday and VE were very confident that that funding would shortly be approved.

 

So, is it a done deal?

[orkneypaul]

Ahh but what VE, the Shetland OR the so called equal SSE VE, the compamy is split in two with equal share in the equal partnership not one entity as it should be.

wonder who has the knowledge and power in that equal partnership.

Lets think...Bunch o fuddy duddys that can hardly agree and ken no much about much ...

or a multi national that makes their buisness out of power generation and controlls billions of pounds..mmmm I wonder .

I will give it 5 years before it becomes Viking SSE

So scared about this partnership Just reminds me of the oiltools set up.

!0 milliondown the tubes. They lost a couple o million then Oiltools bought them out for 50000 cause they got scared.

[unlinkedstudent]

I was talking today to one of the researchers hoping to be involved in the next stage of work on this project, and as a sub contracter to him, I asked them about finance and they said that they had spoken to VE yesterday and VE were very confident that that funding would shortly be approved.

 

So, is it a done deal?

 

Definitely NOT. The Charitable Trust should be mindful of the fact that each Trustee has a duty to each of us mere pleps. For starters, what have they done with the other odd 3 million squids so much so that they come begging for more dosh to be discussed on 16 April. Please don't tell me it was all spent on trips to Whitelee; after all, isn't admission free there?

[Piddly]

http://www.shetnews.co.uk/news/3800-communities-prepare-for-wind-farm-windfall.html

[unlinkedstudent]

^ Quite amazing that they can say communities will get dosh before they even know how much profit they'll be making, if any.

 

Why are they going to the Charitable Trust to ask for more dosh? I was under the impression that VE are a company - don't companies usually borrow from banks? Why should the Trust cough up another £6 million?

 

Hell, just think, nobody has come forward to build the interconnector to the Western Isles, a lot shorter distance - so if no one is doing that, how do VE know that anyone will come forward to build the interconnector for the Shetland windfarm? Then there's the fact that OFGEM don't even consider Shetland being part of the National Grid.

 

Just saying ...

[paulb]

again unlink really

 

the community council will be getting that money as disturbance. it is nothing to do with how profitable the farm is. just like all big building projects they have to compansate the local community. personally i dont see why you folks in the south end need compo as your not affected. the local community councils will love this cash influx.

 

what is this rubbish your spouting now about the interconnector. it will be built and be ready before the turbines. without an interconnector there will be no renwables in any form.

 

if you think that we should not take advantage of the natural resources that we have been given well that puts you down as a nimby.

please no more of this nonsense of a local energy scheame it will not happen as sustainable shetland fully know. its just a ploy by them to try and get more folks to oppse the larger farm.

 

there is no spare room on the local grid for more wind turbines so its either stay the same and be a cash drain on sse or advance forward into a greener future.

 

ofgem dont consider us a part of the national grid because we are not part of the national grid yet. once the connector is built we are part of the national grid.

 

going back to an earlier post of yours over the cable how often has the fibre optic cable been damaged since it was built. clue 0

[PJ of Hildisvik]

Paulb...would you live within 2km's of 475ft high industrial turbines ????

[stilldellin]

Not looking too good for us here in the South Mainland then unlinked, there again maybe we will get disturbance for the unprecedented increase in air traffic !

I see an ever increasing use of the words expect and could being used. Does not fill me with confidence.

 

I just wonder how many supporters of VE would be able to answer correctly if asked the height of these turbines in comparison with Burradale . Seems to me they are turning a blind eye to the sheer scale of the project or just simply unable to envisage it. ( unless for the expected dollars ) !