Shetland windfarm - Viking Energy

[JayneSue]

no it is totally funded by Scottish Power which means more than likely The Spanish government and the scottish people paid for it all. saved the yorkshire people a pretty penny and as you know Yorkshire people make the scottish seem quite benevolent.

[shetlandpeat]

Uninhabitable? I doubt that a wind turbine has rendered a room unsuitable for living in because of a flicker. If that is the case I am quite upset that wind turbines have forced folk to abandon using rooms, losing a room for the duration of the life of the turbine sounds quite shocking. There are many occilations in nature and in the man made world.

[JayneSue]

Hi Shetlandpeat thanks for the welcome, and as you say incredible edible is fantastic more places should adopt the idea, glad to hear you have a similar idea going, dont know where in Shetland you are but it will be interesting to get involved in the likes when i get there.

[shetlandpeat]

I am one of the "great" visitors with family on the islands. I will PM you some links however.

 

It is a pleasant thing to see, an incomer (future) who is not against turbines, it was pointed out very early in this thread and also a comment also within this thread, about a Shetland Radio broadcast about the number of "southern voices" compared to locals, against turbines.

We have a similar thing here where I live, on a number of issues. We even have a group that travel the county and have made themselves heard around the country campaigning about turbines, even when there is no opposition. I look forward to them campaigning against the new MOD radars that can deal with turbines. Some projects pay towards new radar.

 

Really, as I have maintained, it is about what is right for the particular area, sadly campaigns can get full of hot air and we see the responses witnessed earlier which are out of place. What does stand out is how quiet those for turbines are, or those who are not really caring. Perhaps they are unaware of the great flood of pestilence that is about to engulf them. Do you think the other three horsemen will come too?

Edited July 22, 2014 by shetlandpeat

[paulb]

welcome to shetlink and shetland. and when was tod in the west riding of yorkshire your lanky in hiding. we came up from rawtenstall 8 years ago and now live about 10 miles from walls. its best to be aware that the anti faction really won't except what your saying as it goes against there view. the turbines between rossendale and burnley were always worth a stop. the ones near gorden rigg were fun to if you did not get lost finding them. again welcome 

[paulb]

petes from preston. so we all know were your from

[shetlandpeat]

I have already passed that on Paul with a PM intro...

 

But I am not from Preston... I live near Preston

[JayneSue]

welcome to shetlink and shetland. and when was tod in the west riding of yorkshire your lanky in hiding. we came up from rawtenstall 8 years ago and now live about 10 miles from walls. its best to be aware that the anti faction really won't except what your saying as it goes against there view. the turbines between rossendale and burnley were always worth a stop. the ones near gorden rigg were fun to if you did not get lost finding them. again welcome 

Todmorden is in the West Yorkshire youve been listening to the postoffice too long youll be telling me next  Wick and Thurso in Caithness are in Orkney, I pay my council tax to Halifax Calderdale West Yorkshire although i will admit i have A Oldham Lancashire Postcode same as Wick and Thurso have a Kirkwall post code but it doesnt mean theyre in orkney.

[paulb]

well if your counting that silly boundary change in 1972 i think. however until then it was roughly 2/3 lanky 1/3 yorkshire this from an 1870 gazetteer  

TODMORDEN, a town, a township, and a chapelry, in Lancashire, and a sub-district and a district partly also in W. R. Yorkshire.

 

the calder was the boundary i believe.

[paulb]

ps loved the market

[Ghostrider]

I'll be much happier when i can move to my house in Walls which is only a few yards from the sea. then i can go to sleep listening to the real thing as opposed to 23 wind turbines which just sound like the sea.

 

Walls, eh! Well outside Shetland windfarm country, that - yet, anyway.

 

Pity you couldn't have considered moving to say Weisdale, Nesting etc instead, you'd have had the best of both worlds there, the sounds of the sea, and the sounds of the windfarm, and in doing so, given someone currently living there who does not want to listen to a windfarm the opportunity to relocate.

 

You don't mind windfarms, you don't mind living in close proximity to them, and you don't believe any harmful to health side effects are produced by them. The first two are your opinion, and personal choice, you're entitled to them, but they are no more "right" that anyone else's, whatever their opinion, even when they consider them the vilest creations ever and loathe being anywhere near one.

 

The third point is still unproven as far as I'm concerned, the longer term effects on living creatures, if any, of sound at frequencies outwith human auditory range is far from wholly understood, as are those of the production and transportation of high voltage electricity. If you are satisfied the risks are minimal enough that you can sleep nights, good on you, but many folk don't have that privilege.

[paulb]

The Prime Minister is expected to tell Shetlanders that the UK Government has reached a deal to spread the subsidy costs of providing electricity to the Shetlands across the whole of Great Britain, and not just the north of Scotland, putting the subsidy on a more sustainable, long-term footing.

This will keep prices at 75% less than they otherwise would be, according to Number 10.

That is £1,200 lower than the average domestic bill would be without the subsidy and also means lower bills for those in northern Scotland who have, until now, footed the whole subsidy cost, the spokesman said.

This will save the average northern Scottish consumer around £42 a year, he added.

The subsidy is worth an average £20,000 to medium-sized non-domestic properties such as schools and hospitals, and £180,000 to large non-domestics such as fisheries.

 

 

can the antis tell us are they happy to pay the real costs of our power   or is it just the green subsidy that they object to,

[Ghostrider]

 

The Prime Minister is expected to tell Shetlanders that the UK Government has reached a deal to spread the subsidy costs of providing electricity to the Shetlands across the whole of Great Britain, and not just the north of Scotland, putting the subsidy on a more sustainable, long-term footing.

This will keep prices at 75% less than they otherwise would be, according to Number 10.

That is £1,200 lower than the average domestic bill would be without the subsidy and also means lower bills for those in northern Scotland who have, until now, footed the whole subsidy cost, the spokesman said.

This will save the average northern Scottish consumer around £42 a year, he added.

The subsidy is worth an average £20,000 to medium-sized non-domestic properties such as schools and hospitals, and £180,000 to large non-domestics such as fisheries.

 

can the antis tell us are they happy to pay the real costs of our power   or is it just the green subsidy that they object to,

 

 

I'd willingly answer that, *if* you'd post the actual costs, not a pile of meaningless journalistic interpreted political spin.

 

ie. What is Gremista's diesel bill and cost of buying power off Sullom, Burradale and sundry private windmills? What is the total income derived from all power sold to customers from the Shetland grid? What is the approx 5% (I think it is) "Green Tax" already charged on all power sold in Shetland worth? How much, if any, is the defecit between production/buying costs and income in Shetland, and who exactly pays how much of it?

[paulb]

you mean you dont believe a tory pm. wow how doubting. a bit mean to expect the north of scotland to pay an extra 40 odd quid. they must have the figures or they could not charge it

[shetlandpeat]

I am happy to pay the extra. After all, small communities that rely just on one type of power generation need all the help they can get. Though remembering when our Mam was ill, the electric bill was over £1000 some months. The days before District Heating and silver backed foam.