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It may be because of your own political leanings that you believe it is only those on other side of the political spectrum who are ever 'disrespectful'. Are you claiming that there hasn't been any disrespectful rightwing political descent in recent years?

I'm simply pointing out that prior to the protests in the streets and online against the outcome of the Scottish Independence Referendum, a similar outpouring against the outcome of the EU Referendum, likewise across the briney against Trump's election, accomplaied by chants of 'Not my Prez', and now similar street eruptions against the outcome of this election with the mantra changed to 'Not my PM', this kind of pointless behaviour was unheard of. Previously the losing side, whoever they were, were probably disappointed they had lost, and may well have been highly pissed off that they were going to have to put up with the outcome of policies they believed were a total pile of doo-doo, but put up and shut up, accepting that democracy had been served and that the will of the majority of people was being enacted. That respect for the institution and sanctity of democracy is what seems to have vanished these last five years.

 

It is of course quite quite possible that just because the leftist supporters have been on the losing side in all of the above, that by default leftist are the obvious perpetrators, we'll just have to wait and see if right wingers follow their example nest time the right are on the losing side, but right now I see no evidence to suggest they will. I certainly won't, and guess what, Boris in 'Not my PM' either, I didn't vote for his party, and I don't particularly like his policies, so I have the same right/need to chant and protest on the web and in the street as any Labour, Green, Nat or whatever supporter, but I'm not.

 

Such protests are pointless, meaningless and display as certain level of stupidity - The decision of the ballot box will stand regardless, until or unless the ballot box is used again to make another decision. They're just selfish exercises in venting personal frustration of individuals with inadequate self-control who feel 'offended' by not getting exactly their own way.

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Boris Johnson and his government with ample help from their uber rich backers and allies in the press have pulled off the greatest con in UK political history. These snake oil salesmen have managed to

That's a pretty dubious video from a dubious source. Misattributed quotes, footage edited to make people look like they've said something they haven't, strings of insults... and I stopped watching at

Neil Riddell's letter is a fine example of democracy in action, Boris may have won the election but that doesn't mean his opponents should down tools and remain silent.

Whilst some of the decisions in votes recently has not gone the way I personally voted, I really think it’s time some people got over themselves and start accepting democracy. Christ, they never stop greetin. We’ve had elections and votes and we should, regardless of the outcome, be gracious enough to accept it. This idea that you just keep on arguing is what no doubt lost you the vote, but for some reason you can’t see it.

 

theres nothing worse than keyboard warriors who can’t accept the decision reached through democratic purposes. Get over yourselves.

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.....That respect for the institution and sanctity of democracy is what seems to have vanished these last five years.

 

It is of course quite quite possible that just because the leftist supporters have been on the losing side in all of the above, that by default leftist are the obvious perpetrators....

 

 

This is a very pertinent point. The 'leftists' (and to a large degree centralists too) have been on the wrong side of many key votes recently so will naturally be in a position of opposition. And voicing an opposing viewpoint to government is a central tenet of a healthy democracy.

 

However, violent protest and failure to accept decisions arrived at through established mechanisms is fundamentally undemocratic and unlikely to achieve anything constructive.

 

My politics are pretty much down the middle and it's vexing to watch everyone on the left and right telling each other to shut-up. We're all in this together, and the more people who engage in fact based positive political discussion the better.

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We're all in this together, and the more people who engage in fact based positive political discussion the better.

 

That, or rather the lack thereof, is what's got us here. Right wing ideology has taken such a boost that those with some pretty shocking views feel supported enough to venture forth and start bashing whichever race, religion, sexual orientation or whatever it is they don't like. The knock on from that is others with similar views then start chipping in and it's not helped when those given power reiterate garbage which is then duly lapped up and considered fact. Shetlink is most certainly not immune to this effect and it's shameful at best.

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Whilst some of the decisions in votes recently has not gone the way I personally voted, I really think it’s time some people got over themselves and start accepting democracy. Christ, they never stop greetin. We’ve had elections and votes and we should, regardless of the outcome, be gracious enough to accept it. This idea that you just keep on arguing is what no doubt lost you the vote, but for some reason you can’t see it.

 

theres nothing worse than keyboard warriors who can’t accept the decision reached through democratic purposes. Get over yourselves.

 

Very well. When do you think you'll give us your permission to start discussing politics again, sir?

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The Overton window shifted so far left some actual leftists are considered right wing now therefore any anyone actually on the right would be far right by default no matter how close to the centre they may be.

Whenever even the most Milquetoast non-left politician wins anything people act like that means everybody is overnight going to embrace National Socialism instead of the International Socialism proposed by the left.

 

 

Diversity does not produce “bad race relations, Rather, people in diverse communities tend “to withdraw even from close friends, to expect the worst from their community and its leaders, to volunteer less, give less to charity and work on community projects less often, to register to vote less, to agitate for social reform more, but have less faith that they can actually make a difference, and to huddle unhappily in front of the television.”

  • Robert D. Putnam

 

Lots of childless millennial's project their vestigial parental instincts onto Ethnic minorities and LGBTP groups who they view as needing their help,

See white saviors and luxury beliefs for more on that

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Human beings are territorial creatures and tribalism is a part of human nature because for most of human history the presence of a foreign tribe meant you were likely to be raided unless these other people could be prevented from doing so.

 

observe how Baizuo(White Left) view people who are "not like them" compare with a concerned helicopter parent

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Whilst some of the decisions in votes recently has not gone the way I personally voted, I really think it’s time some people got over themselves and start accepting democracy. Christ, they never stop greetin. We’ve had elections and votes and we should, regardless of the outcome, be gracious enough to accept it. This idea that you just keep on arguing is what no doubt lost you the vote, but for some reason you can’t see it.

 

theres nothing worse than keyboard warriors who can’t accept the decision reached through democratic purposes. Get over yourselves.

 

Very well. When do you think you'll give us your permission to start discussing politics again, sir?

 

I have absolutely no problem with folk discussing politics, it’s the folk that seem to refuse to accept the democratic decision. So fill yer boots

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You cant even have a children's show about rescue dogs or accident prone talking trains living in constant fear of being scrapped without fascism being detected.

CNN: Why kids love 'fascist' cartoons like 'Paw Patrol' and 'Thomas'

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/22/health/thomas-tank-engine-paw-patrol-fascist-cartoon-strauss/index.html

Observe how an Overly concerned parent behaves when they find their child is at risk of being exposed to a corrupting force such as a new film or a toy they find problematic or child snatchers lurking on every street corner.

Observe how a “liberal” behaves when they find their Black, Asian and minority ethnic LGBTQ etc is at risk of being exposed to a corrupting force such as an offensive comment or a an election they find problematic or Minority hunters lurking on every street corner.

They view themselves as having a caregiver or Provider/Protector role thats why every political issue now revolves around perceived racism.

The White Savior Hero Complex makes them believe they are the vanguard of all peoples not like them and without the white Savior racists are going to come and attack these defenseless people.

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The Labour Party no longer seem to speak for the common man. It seems to be a middle class socially orientated self- thought “intelligentsia” party now. I voted remain and against Boris Johnson, but have to accept that the majority don’t agree! Maybe I have been wrong? I don’t think there will be an unmitigated disaster under a Tory Government. It’s as if the losers this time are saying that “people don’t know what they are voting for!” Does this mean they want them dis-franchised! Given time balance will be reset. Extremely dangerous ground, to try and undermine the people’s decision. Better to work together for the good of society. For the many, as someone kept saying.

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I suppose that the biggest problem with voting is that, no matter who you vote for, the government is likely to get elected.  !!!

 

Seriously, is there "any" political party that truly represents the wishes of the electorate ?

 

It's time that we had politicians who were not afraid of being "politically incorrect", were not afraid of upsetting "vocal minorities", spent less time "virtue signalling", and started stating bald facts.

 

I don't support or like violent protest but, we ALL have a right to make our views known AND not just at the ballot box.

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Political agitation replaces votes when whoever agitates finds they cannot win using the ballot box

 

For a "right wing" example of political agitation look at the Hong Kong protests recently

 

They managed to stop the law that would allow the Chinese government to summon HK resident's to Mainland China but Voting patterns did not do that the strikes and protests did

Voting is but a survey

 

Compare with sore loser protests all over the first world

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Political agitation replaces votes when whoever agitates finds they cannot win using the ballot box

 

For a "right wing" example of political agitation look at the Hong Kong protests recently

 

They managed to stop the law that would allow the Chinese government to summon HK resident's to Mainland China but Voting patterns did not do that the strikes and protests did

Voting is but a survey

 

Compare with sore loser protests all over the first world

So those that want to stop Indyref2, should arm themselves and start protesting in the streets !    :roll:   Assuming off course that madame gets her own way.

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Or you could become double agents and stage a false flag "Protest" to drive the worst examples of supporters out of the woodwork.

 

Anderson Butchers relocating from Lerwick to Whiteness will only embolden Racists and the Alt-Right!

https://www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2019/11/09/anderson-butchers-moving-out-of-town

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The Labour Party no longer seem to speak for the common man. It seems to be a middle class socially orientated self- thought “intelligentsia” party now. I voted remain and against Boris Johnson, but have to accept that the majority don’t agree! Maybe I have been wrong? I don’t think there will be an unmitigated disaster under a Tory Government. It’s as if the losers this time are saying that “people don’t know what they are voting for!” Does this mean they want them dis-franchised! Given time balance will be reset. Extremely dangerous ground, to try and undermine the people’s decision. Better to work together for the good of society. For the many, as someone kept saying.

I agree with you about the Labour party . Being a trade union member I watched some off the trade union congress this year where delegate after delegate most of them  middle class  blue haired female social worker types though its hard to tell these days who ranted on and on with stabbing fingers  about LGTB issues , the gender pay gap  , more diversity in the workplace , how great the EU was , rape culture in the workplace ,reparations for slavery  etc etc . I watched in vain to hear anything about real working class concerns so ended up switching channels and deciding not to renew my union membership and certainty not vote Labour . 

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