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  1. tarsus

    Covid 19 / Coronavirus

    I am not saying that Ghostrider is correct but I do understand where he is coming from as some of our leaders over the years have bent the truth to suit their needs. Can you ask an MP a simple question and get a straight and honest answer, more often than not you will get waffle. Fear is a weapon and has been used by leaders since we came down from the trees.
    3 points
  2. Whit a load of bruck ghostrider. I ken 8 o da folk dat hae or ir had it (including twaa relatives), and ken whaa a lot o da rest o dem ir. Joost because du doesna ken dir names doesna mak it some sort o conspiracy. And as fur sayin (** mod edit - potentially identifiable info removed **) was a "willing and malleable patsy"... get a grip o desel.
    3 points
  3. And what about completely skipping over the effects of the NHS being flooded with cases? It's a pretty sizeable gaping hole in the take it on the chin approach. It was enough to get the government to change their plans - which should be telling you something (and it's not just about their reelection chances before anyone makes that cheap shot). Also the fact that it was near universally slated as a terrible idea across the globe by the majority *gasp* actual experts.
    2 points
  4. Some people ARE panicking, look at the state of the shelves in Tesco's over the last few weeks. If they weren't panicking, they wouldn't have been panic buying. The cries on social media to shut down construction sites, shut down this, shut down that; the economic fall-out from this is going to be huge. Many companies do not qualify for assistance if wanting more than £250,000 as directors are having to give personal guarantees and if they have already used company assets as security on other loans, they won't get a penny. We will know within the next two to three weeks just how deathly
    2 points
  5. Flawed logic. A "balanced view" would involve discounting "viewpoints" for which there is no evidence, and adjusting your position as more evidence becomes available. Also, for your conspiracy theory to hold water, it would require many thousands of healthcare workers, including locals who have already been willing to stand up against central NHS advice, to en masse be willing to mislead the public. I consider that to be very unlikely indeed.
    2 points
  6. I don’t think many are panicking, but I’d like to think they are taking on board the advise and lowering the risk to themselves and others. The idea that this is some world wide conspiracy is just daft, the large numbers of people dying around the world is worrying and where this differs from flu is younger, fitter folk are also being killed by it. One of my close friends can confirm that they are related to one of the latest people from a care home, who has been tested and confirmed to be positive for Coronavirus. Despite being very healthy for their age, they have been hit hard and whils
    2 points
  7. CSmith

    Covid 19 / Coronavirus

    ^ This! With the horrors of a Corona Virus induced nasty end dangling over them I hope everybody in that age group / risk category has taken the trouble of arranging an Advanced Directive and has informed their family of their wishes. Yet another good reason to change the law and allow a dignified exit in the form of assisted dying. As a side note, I deal with at least 1 person each day who tells me 'I am 70 / 80 years old and I am so scared.' It is heartbreaking.
    1 point
  8. 100% agree. And the knockon effects of health services being inundated with coronavirus cases is other more 'routine' treatments being affected. And if we hit saturation with coronavirus, other urgent cases will be competing for resources. For the people on here advocating the 'survival of the fittest' approach', spare a thought for the health professionals who would be left with the hellish decision of who would receive treatment and who would be left to let nature take it's course. Many hospitals up and down the UK already take practically that approach with QALYS and DALYS. Day in, day
    1 point
  9. "For the people on here advocating the 'survival of the fittest' approach', spare a thought for the health professionals who would be left with the hellish decision of who would receive treatment and who would be left to let nature take it's course." A hellish choice indeed but, if it has to be made between "Patient A" and "Patient B", then you would wonder if either patient was actually "fit enough" to survive.. Truth is that the NHS has been cut back to the bone by successive governments, doesn't have adequete stocks, and can no longer cope with anything more than "normal" throughput.
    1 point
  10. Davie P

    Covid 19 / Coronavirus

    100% agree. And the knockon effects of health services being inundated with coronavirus cases is other more 'routine' treatments being affected. And if we hit saturation with coronavirus, other urgent cases will be competing for resources. For the people on here advocating the 'survival of the fittest' approach', spare a thought for the health professionals who would be left with the hellish decision of who would receive treatment and who would be left to let nature take it's course.
    1 point
  11. Colin

    Covid 19 / Coronavirus

    There is no doubt that Corvid-19 is a "nasty little sausage", and that a lot of people are "at risk", but we should all "get a grip" and stop slavishly following the televised "saturation" coverage. Every time I put the telly on, I see nothing but "talking heads" telling us what we must/must not do. I didn't know that we were a country so full of "experts" !!, and I'm getting a little fed up with the "glee" that the media seems to have in thrusting so many crap and meaningless interviews on us. I got a dose of Swine Flu a few weeks back. Didn't enjoy it one bit and felt quite ill but, I w
    1 point
  12. @ Windwalker - Nobody wants to lose anybody, but whether we like it or not, people die all the time around the world. This isn't the world's most deadliest pandemic - fact. It is the first many people have any experienced in their lifetimes, yes. The flu, TB, etc., also affect people of all ages. The majority of people have recovered from the virus, something the media seems to want us to ignore. Not conspiracy theories, just plain facts. Go on John Hopkins University website if you don't believe me.
    1 point
  13. We already know how deathly this pandemic is. We just need to look at other countries, such as Italy, or are their figures all made up as well. Whilst I accept older people’s immune systems deteriorate with age, can I remind you this is affecting people if all ages. We all know and accept that death us part of life, but try telling that to the parents of the healthy 14 year old who has just died with Coronavirus. As the owner of a business that’s had to shut it doors, I for one would rather be bankrupted than dead. At least I can do my best to rebuild my business. These conspiracy theories
    1 point
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