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  1. As a moderator and for the sake of transparency, it would be remiss for me not to mention I'm a candidate for Shetland South. (in the interests of impartiality: please note that other candidates are also available)
    4 points
  2. Sacre Bleu

    Ukraine

    My otherwise healthy relatives who ended up fighting for their lives in hospital with Covid, my friends sheltering underground in Ukraine, and my own eyes which have seen the satellite imagery, are at odds with your posturing. I assume you are either misinformed or trying to provoke reaction.
    4 points
  3. Rasmie

    Boris Johnson

    He’s a smiling snake, used to think he was a comic, now he appears to be a vindictive character. Almost Trumpesque. Yet the longer he remains as PM the more damage he does to the tories and has probably done more for Scottish Independence than the SNP.
    4 points
  4. For me, Brexit was the apex because it represented a tipping point for one of the world's longest functioning democracies (a model upon which many Western democracies are based) and a failure of the classic view of the 4 Estates of Democracy. We are now in a new era in the UK where it is 'acceptable' for the government (the Executive) to ignore Parliament (the Legislature) and the courts (the Judiciary) and use the media (the 4th Estate, which has traditionally had a function to hold the other 3 to account) to manipulate voters into voting for something which would demonstrably make the majority worse off. Personally, I feel that the move from 'editorial' media to 'social' media has rendered the function of the 4th Estate, to a large degree, obsolete. Mass manipulation seems quite straightforward on Social Media (e.g. Facebook–Cambridge Analytica data scandal). Folk will believe what they want to believe, do very little in the way of fact checking, and seem particularly susceptible to simple false equivalences (e.g. the infamous NHS Bus blaming the EU for government's underinvestment in health services, and the government blaming immigrants for their underinvestment in social services and housing in deprived areas). It all seems very plausible to many people, and Social Media provides the online echo chambers for these manipulations to take hold and become accepted as fact. All the government then has to do is present their latest legislation as the silver bullet to shoot the bogeyman they created, and call anyone who challenges them 'undemocratic' or 'unpatriotic'
    4 points
  5. Here’s an idea. Let’s see if we can have a discussion without it going off topic with anti Westminster ‘witticisms’
    4 points
  6. @ Colin Yes absolutely! 1)The UK voted for a party that stated it was going to have a referendum on EU membership 2)The referendum was arranged in the UK with no interference from the EU on the process, eg timing, question etc 3)The referendum went ahead, the majority voted to leave and the UK left. Now a few years on we're in this situation with Scotland... 1)Scotland voted for parties that stated they're going to have a referendum on UK membership.... See the similarities? (Here's where the hypocrisy about sovereignty, self determination and democracy comes into effect) 2)UK to Scotland - You can only have a referendum if/when WE allow it. That's the UK government's hypocrisy, some of the stuff I've heard from Brexit voters, even on this thread, goes further than this into the realms of the ludicrous. Things like.. Insinuating the UK government could ignore the result of any plebiscite and send the troops in. Cheerleading the partition of Scotland. (these are just a couple of examples in the last few posts, can't be bothered to look further but there's loads and loads of this type of stuff. The funny thing is this, imagine if the EU had said to the UK something along these lines... 'you can't have a referendum unless we say so and if you have any type of plebiscite without our permission we won't accept it, we'll send our troops in, you can maybe get a vote on the condition that we keep the chunks of your country that voted to remain. etc etc' It's absolutely unthinkable! Imagine the front pages of the Daily Mail, I'm sure they had some made up garbage about some EU directive on bananas! They would've had a field day with troop ships crossing the channel!
    3 points
  7. Lot of where Putin was involved depends how much you believe in manipulating the voting population. Social media (unfortunately) plays a huge part in where people formulate their opinions and viewpoints. Russians amongst others can create popular social media accounts that appears British and spout "proper British attitudes" that buy into pre-existing opinions and bias. Look how many accounts popped up going on about how British veterans couldn't get a home yet someone who came from another country could. All largely stoness but it started to whip up anti immigration sentiments at a time we were having a vote about continuing to be in a union that promotes unity with others. Our own governments Russia report has been suppressed, I can only imagine because it isn't especially flattering about how much Russia was involved in our government between cash donations to down right manipulation. If you don't want to see it, you won't see it. If you wonder how this country became the xenophobic, backward thinking cesspool it is then you take more interest in what might have caused it.
    3 points
  8. The 'all politicians are liars' line of discussion is quite tedious, and quite frankly nonsense. I studied politics as a student, worked alongside several politicians at various levels during my career and still take a keen interest in it. There are many politicians of great integrity, past and present, and at all levels of local and national politics, who have contributed very positively to society. However, in all the years I have followed politics I have never seen such blatant dishonesty as that which came from, in the most part, the pro-Brexit politicians and the media outlets which amplified their jingoistic nonsense and glossed over their disregard for due process. They played to the gallery, and promised things that were obviously impossible, with apparent impunity. I feel Brexit was probably the lowest point in British politics for several generations.
    3 points
  9. Colin

    Local labour shortage

    Sorry, but I am pretty well familiar with the local employment market. Maybe you should try taking a closer look. I know quite a number of people who struggle on minimum wage BECAUSE the cost of living is higher up here. I also know a few employers who pay the minimum wage BECAUSE that is the minimum that they have to pay. The result is that the minimum wage employees have to claim some of the various Government top ups/allowances that are available. I would be happy if anybody could explain to me just why the taxpayer, in general, should have to subsidise/top up the wages paid by some employers. As for 'slavery', if you cannot make ends meet in a low paid job, then it IS economic slavery. OK, folk have an opt out in so much as they can choose not to work at all, and depend on the state to keep them alive. Given some of the 'zero hours', 'minimum wage' jobs around here, who can blame them? Why bust a gut working some anti-social hours job only to be looked down on by your customers who are, somehow, 'better' than them. Nobody really wants to live on 'hand outs' and EVERYBODY is entitled to a fair days pay for a fair days work.
    3 points
  10. I see our Tory government is having a complete meltdown today, loads of ministers resigning, lying, corruption, the country is going down the toilet. Rampant inflation, food banks, people having to decide whether to eat or heat and the guy that's meant to fix it all ( the Chancellor of the Exchequer) has just quit along with the Health Secretary, and loads of others, complete shambles..... Surely we could make a better fist of things than this, couldn't we?????
    2 points
  11. The SNP becoming irrelevant in the advent of independence is a bit of a given, surely? A reason to vote yes, no?
    2 points
  12. Hardly ironclad, maybe barely brown wrapping paper clad at best. You're assuming that the electorate deemed Scottish Independence and holding another referendum for it was something they deemed important enough that it was a deal breaker when deciding whom they gave their vote to. There's an equal chance that the electorate didn't give a stuff one way of the other for Independence and a referendum and voted the way they did for other reasons entirely, and the outcome of who got elected would have been no different if independence and a referendum hadn't been in anyone's manifesto. The same mandate to hold a referendum existed last time they had one, and the outcome didn't exactly go the way those who wanted one hoped or predicted. We shall see, come 2023, *if* the threatened referendum actually materialises, a week is a long time in politics let alone 15+ months....... Things have moved on a bit for sure, no argument there, however I'd say public opinion now has far less stomach for independence than at the last referendum, but who knows. This close to the last one though, is always going to attract accusations of 'Keep on voting until you vote the *right* way'. If Nikki is relying on 'Boris hate' to give her extra oomph, she'd best also keep a wadder ee on the more obvious too. The Nats are a one trick pony party, were it not for independence they have nothing in their policies to distinguish or elevate the fro any other Socialist outfit, and keeping on chasing independence while making no progress towards it has only a limited shelf life, which is running short now. she needs to win a referendum, and relatively soon, or she and her party are history. So, suppose she has her referendum, and wins this time. What then? Unless Westminster recognises and accepts the result, which they may or may not do, nothing changes. She could declare UDI, or go whinging to the UN, neither of which is going to have any odds in her lifetime, or she could station her military along her border......Ahhh.....that's maybe not that easy for her.
    2 points
  13. I suspect there will be a lot more squads with acts based on leting in female guizers than there will be actual female guizers.
    2 points
  14. You got my vote Bryan. You will, hopefully, get many more... despite not launching your campaign on the "chaining your bike to a lampost is vandalism" ticket. You missed a big vote winner there.
    2 points
  15. Much hair has been pulled out and many tinkerings have gone on, but we should be back to normal now *fingers crossed*
    2 points
  16. Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain in the EU. Remain Leave 1,661,191 1,018,322 https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/who-we-are-and-what-we-do/elections-and-referendums/past-elections-and-referendums/eu-referendum/results-and-turnout-eu-referendum/eu-referendum-results-region-scotland In Shetland Remain Leave 6,907 5,315
    2 points
  17. Davie P

    Brexit (merged threads)

    This is a fairly comprehensive list of evidence re: Russian interference / influence on Brexit > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_Brexit_referendum "....the report leaves open the possibility that Moscow-based information operations, especially through social media and Russian state-funded broadcasters like Sputnik and RT—and backed up by targeted support to influential voices within UK politics—may well have been a significant factor. Crucially, the UK Government is accused of making a deliberate effort not to find out how Russian influence may have affected the June 2016 vote." https://www.csis.org/blogs/brexit-bits-bobs-and-blogs/did-russia-influence-brexit "the government had reason to suspect a violation of our democratic processes and ignored it. An admission of such a breach would have caused embarrassment" https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/21/russian-meddling-brexit-referendum-tories-russia-report-government
    2 points
  18. Are you a Tory, now, George? Using Britain and us in the same sentence! Must have had a change of heart.
    2 points
  19. Davie P

    Ukraine

    Another minor difference: one 'side' is a partnership of independent sovereign democracies who voluntarily cooperate for mutually beneficial economic, social and defence reasons, and the other 'side' isn't. And I'd question Ghostrider's assertion that "the end result is little different." The end result for whom, and comparing what?
    2 points
  20. Rasmie

    Ukraine

    Putin is worried that western democracy infects his Russia. It’s ok for the wealthy class in Russia to go to the West and enjoy their billions. Ukraine was in danger of becoming a wealthy European nation and that would create discontent among their friends and relations over the border. They’ve already stripped their own Russian populace of wealth, so when they want to splash the cash they come to places like London and keep our (Tory) government in treats, parties and expensive holidays. It looks as if it’s Moldova next. He’s also threatening neutral neighbours like Sweden and Finland. And yes it looks like you either join NATO or start learning Russian.
    2 points
  21. Except that while we (the UK) have substantial quantities of oil & gas being produced daily, control of it seems to be completely in the hands of the oil and gas companies. When it was reported that a Russian tanker was entering a UK port, many social media keyboard warriors assumed it was with a load of Russian oil coming to Britain. As we know it was the opposite – it was for a load of oil from Sullom Voe to leave the UK, as many (most?) loads of oil from Sullom Voe seem to do. How much “UK oil” is actually consumed in the UK? The argument to increase oil production to avoid using foreign oil doesn’t really seem to play out in practice. And prices. It has been quoted that the UK only gets about 5% of it gas from Russia. But all gas has gone up massively in price, not least because the present government decided a few years ago that keeping a decent sized reserve in storage was too expensive. That is market forces; if the North Sea /west of Shetland produced twice as much gas as it does, it wouldn’t reduce UK gas prices; it would just mean that the oil and gas companies would make twice the eye watering profits they are getting just now. There is piece in the Guardian reporting and commenting on the case made by the government minister Kwasi Kwarteng setting out his case for a clean energy future for the UK. I am pleasantly surprised to see someone in government giving what to me is a reasonably rounded summary of the situation. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/mar/01/kwasi-kwartengs-stand-for-green-energy-isnt-everything-but-it-helps
    2 points
  22. Muckle Oxters

    Boris Johnson

    Yis, and his only redeeming characteristic is dat some folk tink he is a loveable buffoon. I'd have towt being a buffoon, lovable or not, wid hiv worked against a Prime Minister.
    2 points
  23. Capeesh

    Covid 19 / Coronavirus

    ^^Neil Oliver? The scruffy long haired history guy? Handy for identifying Roman pottery or digging holes I suppose but as for medical knowledge… meh.
    2 points
  24. Er......How about don't be a hypocrite, and apply your first sentence to the remainder of your paragraph. That, and some advice, you probably won't take, but whatever. Addressing people with made up and meaningless, but implied derogatory names, just because their OPINION differs from your own, isn't usually condusive to establishing a mutually respectful and productive debate. Just sayin......
    2 points
  25. 1. Database developer referencing 2020 2. Youtube for the far right that have been kicked off Youtube 3. Danish newspaper known as a sensationalist media outlet, pretty much The Sun 4. Lord Sumption, well known retired high court judge with some insane views, such that some lives are more valuable than others 5. see 2. 6. Data that is two years old 7. At last something credible, though "...frequent Covid-19 booster shots could adversely affect the immune response" is fairly meaningless, as in I frequently worry that I could drop a pound coin on Victoria Pier trying to pay for the car parking and trip and fall into the sound chasing after it. Anyway, they do go on later on to state that leaving "...more time between booster programs and tie them to the onset of the cold season in each hemisphere" would work well. No more waves of hyperlinks please, specially old, far right populist hyperbole or not fact checked. If you have a point, make it, debate it, provide a relevant source. In the mean time, what restrictions that have been put in place have helped many lives to be saved, and only the actions of a minority of red faced covidiots that refuse to work together for the well-being of society have been bar to that.
    2 points
  26. Ah, debate by hyperlink. Nothing quite like it.
    2 points
  27. Certainly the more local the issue, the better the quality of information and debate that can be had. Its the stuff where you have little knowledge of the issue, locality or who are or aren't the more reliable sources of info that thing get rapidly more murky. Classic example, the BLM 'riots' the other side of the pond a bit back, mainstream media was describing them as 'largely peaceful protests' at the same time as numerous photos of 'rioters' silhouetted against blazing vehicles and whole streets of smashed shop windows and looted shops were being posted on other sites. Ummmmm......... Either there were an awful lot of fake photos, or if that was mainstream media definition of 'largely peaceful', I'd not be keen to meet their definition of 'largely violent'.
    2 points
  28. And it's not like those pushing for Brexit had a good record (I'm being kind here) of delivering on their past promises either; yet they got their way. They remain in power, have made stacks of cash and don't look to be stopping any more of that any time soon. It's all well and good saying if whoever is in charge cock things up they'll get voted out... but that's completely ignoring the reality of who those people are, who they're controlled by and their control of the media with the ability to destroy any and all opposition. But enough folk jumped on the relevant hook that fitted with what they wanted and got them over the line.
    2 points
  29. The fundamental challenge the Remain side was that their only option was to try to point out the benefits of the status quo whilst preaching caution - never the 'sexy' option - whilst the Leave had the benefit of being able to paint pictures of a multiple different futures in which everyone's lives would be better. Remain meant more of the same, whilst Leave was a hotchpotch of scenarios and promises with little detail to back any of up - Leave just had to persuade people that at least one of these competing scenarios would benefit them (from my estimation, there was at least 6 or 7 fundamentally different scenarios that came under the umbrella of 'Brexit')
    2 points
  30. I find it hard to see how something published for all to see in the planning application, as you have made clear in your post, is in any way hidden from the public.
    2 points
  31. Da minimum wage, set by da government, is £8.91 an hour. 'Real Living Wage', which a lot o local business go by, is a voluntary minimum o £9.50. Dir's info here https://scottishlivingwage.org/ It doesna tak intae account da higher costs o livin on islands, but it's 6.6% better dan da minimum wage.
    2 points
  32. The situation should never have arisen in the first place that businesses have relied on foreigners who were willing to work for peanuts to survive. Brexit has simply brought to a head an exploitation issue that's been quietly swept under the carpet for years. The EU 'open borders' policy contained a 'loophole' that created the situation, Brexit has closed it and shown the situation for what it was. It shouldn't have ever been allowed to have been created in the first place, but it was, through Westminster's implementation of Brussels' edicts, and now the mess is going to have to be swept up.
    2 points
  33. Just pointing out that when it's suggested we put a customs border down the Irish Sea, and introduce a pile of red tape, you're all "woo-hoo! What's the worst that could happen?", but when it's proposed that the Co-op build a shop in Sandwick, you seem to think that's a bit too risky.
    2 points
  34. Here's the full Retail Impact Assessment - good luck at making sense of it! https://pa.shetland.gov.uk/online-applications/files/953C3248ADDB20F61F783AA1F872D6A7/pdf/2021_106_PPF-RETAIL_IMPACT_ASSESSMENT_AND_ECONOMIC_STATEMENT-387700.pdf After a quick read, it seems that there's a subtle but very important differentiation between having no impact and having no impact on viability - the latter essentially means that the Retail Impact Assessment tries to make the case that whilst there will be an impact, the shops can still survive and remain viable. There's also some interesting statistics in there that makes a case that Shetland shops trade at higher than UK average profit (they use much more complex language, but that's the thrust), so it'll just be the local shops' profit margins that'll be impacted. Obviously, the Retail Impact Assessment has been written from a specific perspective with one aim in mind, so make of it what you will! I think that's down to the reporting of the report, rather than the content of the report
    2 points
  35. It sounds salty and chewy, nice. It reminds me a bit of other Scandinavian dishes, in Norway and Iceland they dry out/smoke fish and other meats too. Apparently you can make soup from it too, looks delicious! I'll give it a try, thanks for the recommendation George.
    1 point
  36. What does Westminster have to do with cooking?
    1 point
  37. Deliberately omitted the capital in 'westminster'. My little dig at them.
    1 point
  38. I'm in a real quandary here reconciling the idea both sides fibbed equally over Brexit. Running with that notion - those lying about there being massive problems after Brexit are now being proven correct are they not?
    1 point
  39. ReeseTheDundonian

    Boris Johnson

    Looking back on my old comment, I could see I was being a bit rude and brash. But I do still believe that there have been a lot of crappy politicians, as well some good ones. Boris does genuinely show compassion and care for his country and people but Scots down in the mainland seem to rage just by mentioning his name. My family is heavily conservative and unionist, my dad's side is Glaswegian and has been devout Protestant Unionist since the religion was basically invented. They seem to lean more to Boris's way of thinking. I don't know much about politics so I'm mostly neutral on it all, I just want what's best for our little island. Boris seems to be doing a decent job at the moment and the country doesn't look as if it's about to explode into a million pieces. But that isn't to say I like him either, nor do I like Nicola Sturgeon. I don't like what SNP have done with education and I'm sceptical of the independence referendum. I don't think all of the PMs have been corrupt, but nobody is perfect.
    1 point
  40. I remember reading about this a few years back, crazy stuff. It's strange to think that in another timeline somewhere, the Queen is blown up in Shetland.
    1 point
  41. Colin

    Brexit (merged threads)

    So, David Davis was lying then ? Who would have guessed that a politician would have been a little 'economical' with the truth ? I wonder what we ever did for stuff before Wilson/Heath signed us up to the Common Market ? Anyone who ever thought that getting out of the whole mess(?) without some pain 'should have taken a little more water with it..'
    1 point
  42. Spinner72

    Shetland Space Centre

    Yuns da reference number for the official planning application, you can fin it here : https://pa.shetland.gov.uk/online-applications/ Decided to delete my follow up rant about how many folk these days bang on about "the man" doing everything behind closed doors when they've never been more open or easy to look through
    1 point
  43. I winder how many folk dat are complaining aboot da Co-ops will stick tae dir ethical guns and no use dem if dey open?
    1 point
  44. MuckleJoannie

    Council Debt

    The Scottish local elections are scheduled be held on Thursday 5 May 2022. The problem the SIC has managing its finances is that we grew used to the services that were affordable when it had loads of money. The councillors are terrified of cutting services in case they are voted out and the officials want to hold onto their jobs.
    1 point
  45. Looks like you got sh*t on one way or another..
    1 point
  46. I use the Sandwick Bakeshop for a) the bakery products and b) the post office. While i'm there i tend to buy a few other items such as meat. I see anything that endangers a and b as a threat to my lifestyle. I am also concerned that the owners might simply say say "muck it" and close. If the Co-op have any empathy for the community they would try and do deal to guarantee the continuance of a and b.
    1 point
  47. https://www.shetnews.co.uk/2021/08/09/new-supermarkets-would-have-no-impact-on-smaller-shops-developer-insists/ I'm not for or against either development but, I think that the first paragraph of this article is so plainly 'wrong' and misleading that it beggars belief. How can the opening of a new store have no 'detriment' towards existing establishments? Are they trying to convince us that there is a pool of potential customers with unspent money just lying around for them to hoover up? etc. etc. etc. It is plainly obvious (to me anyway) that any customer who switches allegiance from one store to another will have an impact on the 'loser'. Maybe they are just going to magic up some new customers for these stores... Problem solved...
    1 point
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    1 point
  49. Interesting question @ReeseTheDundonian so we added a poll
    1 point
  50. You could try Shetland Broadband if you haven't already. They are a very helpful, courteous, actually know what they are on about and will be abreast of what's coming hardware wise at a local level. It may all be for naught but they'll be able to give you better info than on here it would appear. Best of luck Frances! Shetland Broadband http://www.shetlandbroadband.co.uk/ 01595 696297
    1 point
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