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  1. To be honest, I think the Brexiteers think the damage is worth it to spite the Remainers.
    4 points
  2. As a moderator and for the sake of transparency, it would be remiss for me not to mention I'm a candidate for Shetland South. (in the interests of impartiality: please note that other candidates are also available)
    4 points
  3. Sacre Bleu

    Ukraine

    My otherwise healthy relatives who ended up fighting for their lives in hospital with Covid, my friends sheltering underground in Ukraine, and my own eyes which have seen the satellite imagery, are at odds with your posturing. I assume you are either misinformed or trying to provoke reaction.
    4 points
  4. Rasmie

    Boris Johnson

    He’s a smiling snake, used to think he was a comic, now he appears to be a vindictive character. Almost Trumpesque. Yet the longer he remains as PM the more damage he does to the tories and has probably done more for Scottish Independence than the SNP.
    4 points
  5. Were that my line of thought, I may wonder about who, now, would be putting the UK at the top of their list. Given that Brexit has done it's obvious (yes, it was obvious it would do real harm) damage, brought to us by the calamity party and our now current home secretary who dreams (her words) of flying everyone not born on these turd filled shores (their votes) off to Rwanda. It's hard to fathom. Not.
    3 points
  6. Skekler

    Brexit (merged threads)

    Brexit was probably thought up by the ERG as a quick buck maker. Consequences for the hoi polloi are of no consequence to them. Sad thing is how many voters fell for the story that it was some sort of Independence Day.
    3 points
  7. Capeesh

    Brexit (merged threads)

    This Brexit's going well isn't it? Who would've guessed the so called fear mongers vastly underestimated the damage it would cause. People are realising they've been hoodwinked. The dead giveaway the snake oil salesmen that sold this pup are panicking is they're doubling down on their dishonesty. They want us to believe the little boats crossing the Channel, Covid and the war in Ukraine are the reasons the economy has tanked and the NHS is woefully understaffed. Unfortunately for them there's a Brexit sized elephant in the room that even a blind man can't help but notice.
    3 points
  8. Capeesh

    tory corruption

    Like African dictators it's one last hurrah for the Tories to bleed the country dry before they're booted out. Time's running out, the country's on the verge of a general strike, wages are way behind rocketing inflation, people can't afford to heat or eat, interest rates are shooting up increasing mortgage costs and other personal borrowing, the £ has plummeted, the national debt is soaring. The markets are so alarmed at the state of our economy and the reckless decisions our government are making the cost of government borrowing has become even more expensive. True to form the self serving Tories are emptying the till before the country collapses around them, the latest wheeze is borrowing billions upon billions of £££ to fund a big fat tax cut for themselves and their wealthy cronies. Instead of being arrested for stealing our money and starving/freezing/impoverishing the people they're meant to serve they'll get their super wealthy Daily Mail/Sun/Express owners and lobbyists masquerading as independent think tanks to convince the gullible that foreigners are to blame and massive tax cuts for the wealthy will trickle down and make us rich too.
    3 points
  9. @ Colin Yes absolutely! 1)The UK voted for a party that stated it was going to have a referendum on EU membership 2)The referendum was arranged in the UK with no interference from the EU on the process, eg timing, question etc 3)The referendum went ahead, the majority voted to leave and the UK left. Now a few years on we're in this situation with Scotland... 1)Scotland voted for parties that stated they're going to have a referendum on UK membership.... See the similarities? (Here's where the hypocrisy about sovereignty, self determination and democracy comes into effect) 2)UK to Scotland - You can only have a referendum if/when WE allow it. That's the UK government's hypocrisy, some of the stuff I've heard from Brexit voters, even on this thread, goes further than this into the realms of the ludicrous. Things like.. Insinuating the UK government could ignore the result of any plebiscite and send the troops in. Cheerleading the partition of Scotland. (these are just a couple of examples in the last few posts, can't be bothered to look further but there's loads and loads of this type of stuff. The funny thing is this, imagine if the EU had said to the UK something along these lines... 'you can't have a referendum unless we say so and if you have any type of plebiscite without our permission we won't accept it, we'll send our troops in, you can maybe get a vote on the condition that we keep the chunks of your country that voted to remain. etc etc' It's absolutely unthinkable! Imagine the front pages of the Daily Mail, I'm sure they had some made up garbage about some EU directive on bananas! They would've had a field day with troop ships crossing the channel!
    3 points
  10. Lot of where Putin was involved depends how much you believe in manipulating the voting population. Social media (unfortunately) plays a huge part in where people formulate their opinions and viewpoints. Russians amongst others can create popular social media accounts that appears British and spout "proper British attitudes" that buy into pre-existing opinions and bias. Look how many accounts popped up going on about how British veterans couldn't get a home yet someone who came from another country could. All largely stoness but it started to whip up anti immigration sentiments at a time we were having a vote about continuing to be in a union that promotes unity with others. Our own governments Russia report has been suppressed, I can only imagine because it isn't especially flattering about how much Russia was involved in our government between cash donations to down right manipulation. If you don't want to see it, you won't see it. If you wonder how this country became the xenophobic, backward thinking cesspool it is then you take more interest in what might have caused it.
    3 points
  11. The Supreme Court has ruled on the legality of the Scottish Parliament holding a referendum and the five judges unanimously said it can't hold one. They were also at pains to say Scotland was not a colony. There's also been loads of interviews with politicians of the unionist persuasion that go something like this... Q1: "Is the union a voluntary one?" A: "Of course it is!" Q2: "How do you get out of it then?" A: "Oh look, there's a squirrel >>>> *politician vanishes* Now call me cynical but if people from another country that rule you tell you you're not a colony but you've no democratic or legal way to be free of their rule what on Earth is Scotland?
    2 points
  12. The EU is a poor partner to have for energy security, seeing as they're as much a conduit for Chinese energy, and up until earlier this year, were for Russian energy, as they are a producer. Defence, yeah, well, its an arguable point whether mutterings about an 'EU Army' was the final straw when added to all the Yank military shenanigans in Europe that convinced Putin it was time to do a bit of sabre rattling. Twice in just over 200 years Russia has been invaded, once by the French and once by the Germans, is it any wonder that when the two get in cahoots and start appearing to be organising an army, that ole Russki gets a bit miffed and puts on an attempted show of strength with a sacrificial neighbour. Unwise, probably, but surprising, no. The UK lacked labour pre-EU, the so-called hospitality industry was rattling full of Philippinos back in the day, as was the NHS, along with an ever increasing number of Indian Doctors. EU labour just filled a gap that was caused by the EU preventing those nationalities working in the UK any longer. We don't necessarily need to source people from the EU, there are numerous nations worldwide who have crowds of people who'd give their right arm to be able to come here and work, even for half the posted salary, we just need to facilitate capable people to come here, their nationality is irrelevant.
    2 points
  13. Copyright is a thorny issue with those pics..... As George says, where copyright is known, the copyright holder can transfer it to the Museum. Simple. Problems start to arise when the copyright holder isn't known. To get around this, the story I've been told, is that as the image displayed on their site and any copy anyone may obtain from the Museum is from the Museum's scan of an original negative/copy/print, it is their own scan they claim copyright on rather than the original. How kosher it is for that to be done when the original copyright holder isn't known, is open to debate.....but likely something they can get away with without any real risk of challenge. Actual example. The collection contains two images we have in a family collection of old photos, which were around long before the Museum, let alone the photo collection was ever dreamed off. Did a long dead family member take them - Don't know. Do we hold the only original copies - Don't know. How did the Museum obtain the prints/negatives they were scanned from - Don't know. What is known is that back in the 70's a neighbour borrowed a number of photos from our collection to have copies made for their own collection. Which we were fine with. Then years later that same neighbour allowed the Museum take copies of some photos from their collection. Were the two photos in question ones we loaned to that neighbour to take copies for their own use - Don't know, the family members who loaned them are long gone. If they were, did that neighbour in turn allow the Museum to take copies of their copies - Don't know, that neighbour died before the Museum published their collection online. Obviously there's every possibility the Museum could have obtained the negatives/prints they scanned from another source and its all very legit, but it just illustrates how sketchy things can get very quickly.
    2 points
  14. Capeesh

    Energy bills.

    The energy providers: "We need to up the bills to provide energy to you." "We have just made record breaking profits." Zombie Tory Government: "We can't do anything because we haven't chosen a new leader yet." "No we couldn't possibly cut vat on your bills or tax the energy companies." "What we might do to stop the riots is con you by using your own taxes and/or print more money to 'gift' you a few hundred pounds to help you pay your energy bill thus maintaining the massive profits and share dividends both us and our backers enjoy." The whole thing is a massive con, what the companies do (legally) is create subsidiaries that show a loss thus protecting them from paying tax. At the same time the parent company rakes in the profits. The doo doo is about to hit the fan this winter so what will probably happen is the government will (yet again) use public money to bail out private companies and package it as a 'gift' to us from the Chancellor so the gullible keep voting for them. One thing's for certain, privatisation is very expensive for us and highly profitable for companies, the only thing that stops the whole house of cards from collapsing is a large number of (better off) voters in addition to most of those in government are shareholders in these businesses collecting annual dividends in the biggest sure thing you can possibly get... 'Privatised' companies that get bailed out with public money every time their profit margins don't satisfy the shareholders.
    2 points
  15. I see our Tory government is having a complete meltdown today, loads of ministers resigning, lying, corruption, the country is going down the toilet. Rampant inflation, food banks, people having to decide whether to eat or heat and the guy that's meant to fix it all ( the Chancellor of the Exchequer) has just quit along with the Health Secretary, and loads of others, complete shambles..... Surely we could make a better fist of things than this, couldn't we?????
    2 points
  16. The SNP becoming irrelevant in the advent of independence is a bit of a given, surely? A reason to vote yes, no?
    2 points
  17. Hardly ironclad, maybe barely brown wrapping paper clad at best. You're assuming that the electorate deemed Scottish Independence and holding another referendum for it was something they deemed important enough that it was a deal breaker when deciding whom they gave their vote to. There's an equal chance that the electorate didn't give a stuff one way of the other for Independence and a referendum and voted the way they did for other reasons entirely, and the outcome of who got elected would have been no different if independence and a referendum hadn't been in anyone's manifesto. The same mandate to hold a referendum existed last time they had one, and the outcome didn't exactly go the way those who wanted one hoped or predicted. We shall see, come 2023, *if* the threatened referendum actually materialises, a week is a long time in politics let alone 15+ months....... Things have moved on a bit for sure, no argument there, however I'd say public opinion now has far less stomach for independence than at the last referendum, but who knows. This close to the last one though, is always going to attract accusations of 'Keep on voting until you vote the *right* way'. If Nikki is relying on 'Boris hate' to give her extra oomph, she'd best also keep a wadder ee on the more obvious too. The Nats are a one trick pony party, were it not for independence they have nothing in their policies to distinguish or elevate the fro any other Socialist outfit, and keeping on chasing independence while making no progress towards it has only a limited shelf life, which is running short now. she needs to win a referendum, and relatively soon, or she and her party are history. So, suppose she has her referendum, and wins this time. What then? Unless Westminster recognises and accepts the result, which they may or may not do, nothing changes. She could declare UDI, or go whinging to the UN, neither of which is going to have any odds in her lifetime, or she could station her military along her border......Ahhh.....that's maybe not that easy for her.
    2 points
  18. I suspect there will be a lot more squads with acts based on leting in female guizers than there will be actual female guizers.
    2 points
  19. You got my vote Bryan. You will, hopefully, get many more... despite not launching your campaign on the "chaining your bike to a lampost is vandalism" ticket. You missed a big vote winner there.
    2 points
  20. Much hair has been pulled out and many tinkerings have gone on, but we should be back to normal now *fingers crossed*
    2 points
  21. Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain in the EU. Remain Leave 1,661,191 1,018,322 https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/who-we-are-and-what-we-do/elections-and-referendums/past-elections-and-referendums/eu-referendum/results-and-turnout-eu-referendum/eu-referendum-results-region-scotland In Shetland Remain Leave 6,907 5,315
    2 points
  22. Davie P

    Brexit (merged threads)

    This is a fairly comprehensive list of evidence re: Russian interference / influence on Brexit > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_Brexit_referendum "....the report leaves open the possibility that Moscow-based information operations, especially through social media and Russian state-funded broadcasters like Sputnik and RT—and backed up by targeted support to influential voices within UK politics—may well have been a significant factor. Crucially, the UK Government is accused of making a deliberate effort not to find out how Russian influence may have affected the June 2016 vote." https://www.csis.org/blogs/brexit-bits-bobs-and-blogs/did-russia-influence-brexit "the government had reason to suspect a violation of our democratic processes and ignored it. An admission of such a breach would have caused embarrassment" https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/21/russian-meddling-brexit-referendum-tories-russia-report-government
    2 points
  23. Are you a Tory, now, George? Using Britain and us in the same sentence! Must have had a change of heart.
    2 points
  24. Davie P

    Ukraine

    Another minor difference: one 'side' is a partnership of independent sovereign democracies who voluntarily cooperate for mutually beneficial economic, social and defence reasons, and the other 'side' isn't. And I'd question Ghostrider's assertion that "the end result is little different." The end result for whom, and comparing what?
    2 points
  25. Rasmie

    Ukraine

    Putin is worried that western democracy infects his Russia. It’s ok for the wealthy class in Russia to go to the West and enjoy their billions. Ukraine was in danger of becoming a wealthy European nation and that would create discontent among their friends and relations over the border. They’ve already stripped their own Russian populace of wealth, so when they want to splash the cash they come to places like London and keep our (Tory) government in treats, parties and expensive holidays. It looks as if it’s Moldova next. He’s also threatening neutral neighbours like Sweden and Finland. And yes it looks like you either join NATO or start learning Russian.
    2 points
  26. Except that while we (the UK) have substantial quantities of oil & gas being produced daily, control of it seems to be completely in the hands of the oil and gas companies. When it was reported that a Russian tanker was entering a UK port, many social media keyboard warriors assumed it was with a load of Russian oil coming to Britain. As we know it was the opposite – it was for a load of oil from Sullom Voe to leave the UK, as many (most?) loads of oil from Sullom Voe seem to do. How much “UK oil” is actually consumed in the UK? The argument to increase oil production to avoid using foreign oil doesn’t really seem to play out in practice. And prices. It has been quoted that the UK only gets about 5% of it gas from Russia. But all gas has gone up massively in price, not least because the present government decided a few years ago that keeping a decent sized reserve in storage was too expensive. That is market forces; if the North Sea /west of Shetland produced twice as much gas as it does, it wouldn’t reduce UK gas prices; it would just mean that the oil and gas companies would make twice the eye watering profits they are getting just now. There is piece in the Guardian reporting and commenting on the case made by the government minister Kwasi Kwarteng setting out his case for a clean energy future for the UK. I am pleasantly surprised to see someone in government giving what to me is a reasonably rounded summary of the situation. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/mar/01/kwasi-kwartengs-stand-for-green-energy-isnt-everything-but-it-helps
    2 points
  27. Muckle Oxters

    Boris Johnson

    Yis, and his only redeeming characteristic is dat some folk tink he is a loveable buffoon. I'd have towt being a buffoon, lovable or not, wid hiv worked against a Prime Minister.
    2 points
  28. Capeesh

    Covid 19 / Coronavirus

    ^^Neil Oliver? The scruffy long haired history guy? Handy for identifying Roman pottery or digging holes I suppose but as for medical knowledge… meh.
    2 points
  29. Er......How about don't be a hypocrite, and apply your first sentence to the remainder of your paragraph. That, and some advice, you probably won't take, but whatever. Addressing people with made up and meaningless, but implied derogatory names, just because their OPINION differs from your own, isn't usually condusive to establishing a mutually respectful and productive debate. Just sayin......
    2 points
  30. 1. Database developer referencing 2020 2. Youtube for the far right that have been kicked off Youtube 3. Danish newspaper known as a sensationalist media outlet, pretty much The Sun 4. Lord Sumption, well known retired high court judge with some insane views, such that some lives are more valuable than others 5. see 2. 6. Data that is two years old 7. At last something credible, though "...frequent Covid-19 booster shots could adversely affect the immune response" is fairly meaningless, as in I frequently worry that I could drop a pound coin on Victoria Pier trying to pay for the car parking and trip and fall into the sound chasing after it. Anyway, they do go on later on to state that leaving "...more time between booster programs and tie them to the onset of the cold season in each hemisphere" would work well. No more waves of hyperlinks please, specially old, far right populist hyperbole or not fact checked. If you have a point, make it, debate it, provide a relevant source. In the mean time, what restrictions that have been put in place have helped many lives to be saved, and only the actions of a minority of red faced covidiots that refuse to work together for the well-being of society have been bar to that.
    2 points
  31. Ah, debate by hyperlink. Nothing quite like it.
    2 points
  32. Arfski

    Covid 19 / Coronavirus

    There has always been the eccentric tin foil hat wearer, handing out pamphlets in the market square on a Saturday to anyone that will take one, but now they have the Internet. With the Internet a small minority can suddenly make a disproportionate amount of noise. It's still noise of course, Elizabeth I was a man, flat Earthers, anti-vax, anti-<insert random pet peeve>, mind altering con trails, Lizard people etc. Now the crackpot is no longer harmless, they can now spread misinformation at an alarming rate, and that is always going to be the worst aspect of the Internet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laHpN7-FBLs&list=PLLhOnau-tupSLiQbq8OXBFh3MCPyuXT8g
    1 point
  33. Evil Inky

    Covid 19 / Coronavirus

    I think you're confusing facts and opinions here. Let's say Alex Jones or David Icke states that they believe that the Royal Family are shape-shifting lizards. They may well be telling the truth in that this is their actual opinion. But since there is no evidence that the Royal Family are shape-shifting lizards, or that shape-shifting lizards even exist, it can be demonstrated that their opinion is factually incorrect.
    1 point
  34. I can't say I've noticed Arfski claiming to be an epidemiologist or anything else medically qualified/experienced for that matter, so who knows where they got their opinion from or whether or not it has any credibility beyond anyone else's. Regardless where an opinion comes from, the old maxim 'don't believe everything you read/hear' is usually worth considering. Demonstrable, provable facts, which seem to be becoming increasingly rare in the 'science' of today, are one thing to bandy about. Opinions, as someone allegedly said, are like a-ss-oles, everybody has one, and the only one that really matters to anyone is their own.
    1 point
  35. I still remember the good old days when it was 5G masts that were spreading Covid; the days when we didn't - and still don't - have any 5G masts. At least we're starting to see more becoming known about certain aspects of Covid beginning to be better understood and, more importantly, acknowledged. It's all way over my head (and I read Facebook!) but the effects of the virus when it gets anywhere near the brain look to be providing some backup to Long Covid sufferers and the "loss" of smell and taste appears to have genetic roots which are now being examined. More importantly, it being openly discussed (by the boffins at least) and not swept under the carpet.
    1 point
  36. Evil Inky

    Covid 19 / Coronavirus

    The thing is though, when it comes to pandemics, the opinion of an epidemiologist who's studied the subject for years isn't equivalent to the opinion of someone who's found out from Facebook that Bill Gates is putting 5G-enabled microchips in the COVID-19 vaccine in order to cover up that the Moon landings were faked.
    1 point
  37. hyperlinks that shoot down Arfski's comment in flames... Their imagined idea on the weight of opinion is just that ,imagined. https://gbdeclaration.org/view-signatures/ Tens of thousands of medical professionals did not advocate lockdown. Lockdown was a failure... The government spent / lost over 2 x as much money paying healthy working age people not to go to work than they spent on the NHS in the same period....
    1 point
  38. Arfski

    Covid 19 / Coronavirus

    Well, there's always one. The weight of opinion suggests that his opinion is wrong, as there is nothing scientific in that outpouring, it's all rhetoric. I've been avoiding Covid like the plague and will continue to do so.
    1 point
  39. They seem to come out of the garage complex on the Black Gaet from time to time. That site is so well landscaped to stop passers by seeing into it you can't tell if there are a lot of vehicles there. The business's address is Wormadale but they don't keep any vehicles there.
    1 point
  40. Thanks George. Whenever I have looked at the website in the past it always says whether it is open at that moment in time, but not what the hours are!
    1 point
  41. 10:00 to 16:00, according to the website.
    1 point
  42. It's a recurring theme these days to see lots of concerns and objections in letters section of the paper and on facebook etc, but nobody actually cares enough to put in an objection to the planning proposal, which obviously means projects go ahead with no objections. In the case of the two Coop stores, there was only one single comment, regarding the paths at Scalloway, which was noted and taken on board.
    1 point
  43. With the forthcoming cancellation of the islander meal discount on the North boats, I wondered what others are planning on doing for their meals and refreshments; paying up or finding an alternative? I thought that I might apply some time to a thought experiment to seek a solution. On Amazon you can buy a 1 litre deep fat fryer for £25, which got me wondering about having a fry-up in your cabin. Obviously this would need to be done on a calm night or whilst still in port or the lea of Shetland mainland if underway. As far as provisions are concerned you could have a bottle of oil in your luggage, a fresh fish in a bag per person, a spud per person and something to peel it with, or pre-peel/chip and bag them before you leave home. You could knock up some batter at home and put it into a zip lock bag. A plate plus eating irons would be necessary, add salt, pepper and vinegar if required. You might be able to blag some or all of these from the onboard cafe. As you can't open a window in the cabin (who designed these boats for chrissakes?) there is always the risk that the cooking might set off the cabin's smoke detector so it would be wise to wedge the door open with a leg broken off the chair. SERCO might thank you for leaving the door open as the smell of fish and chips wafting in the cabin's corridor might encourage others to go to the cafe, so up their sales. Disposing of the oil might make sense, depending on your plans for breakfast, as you wouldn't be wanting to carry dirty oil slopping about in a deep fat fryer. The best that I can come up with is to fill one of the paper cups with soap solution provided at the sink and the shower, tip the oil down the toilet, and follow that up with the cup of soap liquid before flushing the solution down the pipe. Just add more soap if there is any residue to make the problem someone else's problem. If you are more eco-friendly just dispose of the oil in the waste bin. At least you won't have to share a paper cup with your travelling companion then. Remember to wipe out the cooking vessel with plenty of the free loo paper then flush that as well. Alternatives could include using a chip pan with a camping gas stove, the door must be open for the carbon monoxide to escape. It's probably best not to go to the bar whilst waiting for the oil to heat up in the chip pan. Soak a bath towel in water just in case the oil should catch fire as black smoke billowing from your cabin is something likely to be noticed and may cause alarm amongst your fellow travellers. If you have a taste for foreign foods then the kettle should hold a couple of tins of curry. Obviously drink plenty of liquids first and fill flasks before doing this as the kettle's interior will be sub-optimal after the curry cook up. For breakfast pour the milk that you have brought into the deep fat fryer or chip pan, add some porage oats, salt and sugar, and set it to cook, stirring frequently with one of the "free" plastic spoons. Eat the portage straight out of the cooking vessel, but be aware that there may be smoke produced as the remnants of the porage sticks to the bottom. Take the deep fat fryer or chip pan into the shower with you or just abandon it for the staff to have if they want it. If you are determined to keep it then use one of the towels to rub vigorously on the inside to try to leave the burnt bits behind with the towel. If you haven't binned the oil you might have had the forethought to bring a rasher of bacon, a sausage and an egg each, which could be fried in the cooking vessel of choice, using the same safety measures as detailed above. The meat could be kept cold overnight by putting them in the sink and running the cold water over them all night with the plug out. If you need to use the toilet in the night it will be important to lower your hand hygiene standards for one night and forego the sink. Other considerations should include putting your luggage and any clothing into bin bags so that they are not soiled by the deep frying/curry/porage cooking aromas extravaganza. SERCO will be washing the bedding anyway, and wiping down the woodwork, so no need to worry about those things. If the chip pan didn't catch fire you will have saved them the trouble of having to repaint the cabin, so everyone is a winner. Let me know if you come up with better solutions. Bon voyage! Biggy
    1 point
  44. admin

    Login problems

    Thanks for pointing this out Rasmie. We've had a delve and a system upgrade we performed has changed some of the security functionality... (technical blah blah)... and for the meantime folk can only login using their email address, as opposed to their email address or username as before. It'll take a little reverse engineering, but we're on it.
    1 point
  45. Colin

    Local labour shortage

    Sorry, but I am pretty well familiar with the local employment market. Maybe you should try taking a closer look. I know quite a number of people who struggle on minimum wage BECAUSE the cost of living is higher up here. I also know a few employers who pay the minimum wage BECAUSE that is the minimum that they have to pay. The result is that the minimum wage employees have to claim some of the various Government top ups/allowances that are available. I would be happy if anybody could explain to me just why the taxpayer, in general, should have to subsidise/top up the wages paid by some employers. As for 'slavery', if you cannot make ends meet in a low paid job, then it IS economic slavery. OK, folk have an opt out in so much as they can choose not to work at all, and depend on the state to keep them alive. Given some of the 'zero hours', 'minimum wage' jobs around here, who can blame them? Why bust a gut working some anti-social hours job only to be looked down on by your customers who are, somehow, 'better' than them. Nobody really wants to live on 'hand outs' and EVERYBODY is entitled to a fair days pay for a fair days work.
    1 point
  46. Spinner72

    Local labour shortage

    I don't know where du got dat info fae but, whilst Shetland used ta hae a higher dan average wage in many cases, this is pretty rare these days. I winna go inta details as its a peerie place etc, but I keen first hand o both unskilled labour wark an HGV/Plant driving where companies on the mainland are offerin £2 or more per hour above the rates here. It's not a trivial amount. The boost fae the upsurge in construction here has really helped but it needs it aa yet. Even council wise, if you compare wi Orkney, let alone da mainland, similar posts salaries are considerably lower in Shetland. Ghostrider is right aboot some sectors dats fur sure, but its a difficult financial flow ta get up tae. Hospitality needs ta pay more, so charge more, but fok hae less ta spend and are less enthusiatic aboot travellin, so dir less comin in an so it goes. The level of minimum wage compared to rent and rates is proably the biggest issue however. Many folk simply can't afford to work, because they won't break even.
    1 point
  47. The situation should never have arisen in the first place that businesses have relied on foreigners who were willing to work for peanuts to survive. Brexit has simply brought to a head an exploitation issue that's been quietly swept under the carpet for years. The EU 'open borders' policy contained a 'loophole' that created the situation, Brexit has closed it and shown the situation for what it was. It shouldn't have ever been allowed to have been created in the first place, but it was, through Westminster's implementation of Brussels' edicts, and now the mess is going to have to be swept up.
    1 point
  48. Colin

    Local labour shortage

    I don't think that it's quite fair to blame Brexit for all the employment woes faced at the moment. Truth is that hospitality in particular has always been a rubbish career(?) with transient workers, long antisocial hours, and low pay. Other long hours, low pay occupations are also suffering as well. East Europeans (and before them, transient Aussies/Kiwis/Jamaicans) did those jobs because many of our own people were not (and are not) willing to put up with such a poor lot, and honestly, why should they put up with minimum wage jobs just to pay their rent when they are better off (financially) by not working. Don't forget, we abolished slavery a long time ago, and we shouldn't expect people to break their backs for little or no real compensation. Cheap unskilled labour is (hopefully) a thing of the past. The good thing that is likely to come out of this is that employers are going to be obliged to charge a little more and pay a decent wage, or shut up shop.
    1 point
  49. Just pointing out that when it's suggested we put a customs border down the Irish Sea, and introduce a pile of red tape, you're all "woo-hoo! What's the worst that could happen?", but when it's proposed that the Co-op build a shop in Sandwick, you seem to think that's a bit too risky.
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  50. Davie P

    Covid 19 / Coronavirus

    I don't think either of those options were seriously considered for very long by anyone with an understanding of how the virus was spreading (I assume you know that but are writing for dramatic effect). Since very early on the aim of the game was to slow the spread i.e. the 'flatten the curve' principal whilst vaccines were developed and/or herd immunity achieved. Surely there's enough evidence of health services around the world being overwhelmed for people to understand that aiming for herd immunity through the unchecked spread of the virus would have been catastrophic. It feels quite odd to be even writing such an obvious comment.
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