Dratsy

the final court of appeal is the european court and the UKs relationship with europe just now could make any case there very interesting, fingers crossed

I think all metal objects and there for aerosols are removed from the rubbish before putting it in the incinerator.

I know folks that have lived here 30, 40 years and longer and still consider themselves English or Scottish or even Norwegian, I know folk that were born here to sooth parents and consider themselves English etc how then should they have a vote on Shetlands future, they do not consider themselves Shetlanders and that is why I will stick to my guns and say some kind of hereditary link is a must. I am not calling for their deportation unless they are criminals. And after we achieve independence then they can apply for citizenship, which if they have lived her long enough then it would be a mere formality. And after they achieve citizenship then they can vote in elections. This is an opinion that I hold It does not mean I hate all Scots or English or Poles or whatever but narrow minded folks accuse me of being racist. do I think there are too many morons allowed to settle here yes but that is because they are morons not because of their ethnic background. So call me a moronist (someone who dislikes morons) if you must it is a handle I wont even attempt to deny, but racist I think not, i have more friends from more nationalities than most folk on here so it is a label that is unjustified.

So you think we should deport offenders that are from here then. Oh yes that member states of the EU that abuse folks human rights on a daily basis. as ever peat you are a bit of a drama queen

This "high powered cannabis" that you go on about is a myth created by the tabloids. From the experience of many folks the grass now is no better than the grass 30+ years ago it is just easier to get a hold of because of peoples willingness to grow it themselves. And people are willing to take the risk of growing it for many reasons but the main reason I have heard about is not wanting to purchase from criminals who may use the money for unsavoury purposes like the financing of harder drugs or further up the line even terrorist activity. take for example the "POLM" resin that is popular today it is (if it is the real thing) just a decent bit of Lebanese and when I was a teenager the bars were stamped with PLO and a guy with a head scarf and a kalashnikof, this branding ceased when Yassir Arrafat changed his image from terrorist to politician. As for my letting any one drive after smoking I would no more let some one drive if I thought they were unfit to do so for any reason be it pot, drink or (what has been proven time and time again to be worse than either) lack of sleep. I know you would like to blame a "racist nazi" like me for all that is wrong with world peat but I think not. Do you go for a pint to unwind after work? if so how does that make you any better than the person that enjoys a spliff to wind down after spending the day listening to idiots like you for 8 hours while trying to do their job.

you read them paul and you will see that I state quite clearly I don't have a problem with folk that come here and obey the law I also state that I know eastern europeans that are better workers and people than some locals. stop looking for things that are not there. making slanderous allegations is out of order and that is what I was calling you on not threatening you at all. But i must say your attempt to get me kicked off is rather pathetic, you don't agree with me so you wish to censor me by whatever means.

your parentage may be in question icepick, but that don't mean every ones mammy is a whoore

now lets have a look at this statement. Drug induced psychosis may indeed occur but let me tell you once again that I know very many folk that smoke pot and yet I know more psychos that don't smoke pot than do, Growing up in Shetland means I have known these folk all my and their lives and have been a witness to their behaviour for a long time, and those psychotics that do smoke pot were psychotics long before they took their first puff on a joint. You are quite happy to except that folks make up excuses for their drug taking but won't except that they may be using the drugs as an excuse for their being a psychotic sphincter. For every study that says pot causes psychosis there is another that says it does not, and I will put it that those studies that do were carried out by namby pamby social worker types that will lay the blame for everything anywhere but where it belongs and that is squarely on the shoulders of the sphincter they are dealing with. There are other drugs like speed and coke that most certainly do cause psychosis I have witnessed it for myself but they are uppers and work on a different bit of the brain, or at least affect the brain differently from pot. Then there are opiates that cause physical dependency pretty much as soon as you start using them with any regularity yet doctors prescribe them at the drop of a hat. So please vadger stop repeating the crap you've read in the papers or been spoon fed by the politicians because you have no real knowledge of what you are speaking about.

ok , in a hypothetical situation a hash head psychotic manages lie thier way into a taxi licence and runs around stunned pedalling pot and powders and you've just given them an excuse to get off if they are ever taken to book about it ? , first part of the hypothetical situation is probable reality , second totally unlikely No vadger a weak and useless law is what lets them get off with it. if it is driving under the influence, the selling of illegal substances is a different matter.

the law states that unlike with drink where there is a set limit of alcohol in your system your driving ability has to be impaired due to drugs and this is impossible to prove in a court of law because all you have to say is you were very tired and the cops stressed you out with their tests and hey presto not guilty.

as ever peat WTF are you on about

As is typical of idiots everywhere you only see or read what you want to see or read so I will direct you to my earlier statement for the 2nd time inky if you don't live here you don't get a vote but I suspect you knew that's what I meant anyway there is no point discussing this subject any further with idiots so I won't bother And if you accuse me of being racist or xenophobic or whatever once more then I will call you on it paul

So what are you suggesting? Someone born in England [uk] Would have to apply for residency in Shetland [uK]? Or is it just East Europeans you're bigoted against? If Shetland votes to break with the UK then yes you would have to apply for a visa to stay here, and where have I ever shown bigotry against eastern europeans I just have a healthy dislike of scumbags wherever they come from Shetland doesn't have laws, the UK has laws and Scotland has a few that are a bit different to England and Wales, but Shetland laws If Shetland breaks from the UK then Shetland would have its own laws I wonder how Shetland would fare if all the "incomers" left tomorrow? The NHS, education, and fish producers are just three areas that spring to mind. I have edited this to put my replys in bold to save any confusion

wrong again as usual there are tests on saliva for cannabis, sweat tests for cannabis, the real problem is proving that someone was unfit to drive and that is down to the wording of the current laws not the veracity of the tests

wrong again as usual there are tests on saliva for canabis, sweat tests for canabis, the real problem is proving that someone was unfit to drive and that is down to the wording of the current laws not the veracity of the tests

not only do you write a load of bollox but your reading ability leaves a lot to be desired

Why would you think that

May I also add that once we Shetlanders have voted one way or the other then touchy soothmoothers like yourself would get to vote for for your member of the ting if that is the way we decide to go. And just like most democracies in the world residency does not confer rights of citizenship that would have to be applied for and if it was up to me if you have a criminal record you would not be granted citizenship if you break the laws of Shetland you would be deported back to where you came from just like most democracies . If that makes me a nazi then zieg bloody heil

Ah I wondered how long it would take some moron to mention the nazis. as a UK citizen you can vote as much as you want on UK elections but why should you get to purchase a vote on Shetlands future by buying a house up here, or in the case of a lot of incomers by rolling of the boat and signing on. There are a lot of folks all over the world living working and contributing to the economies of wherever it is they happen to be staying at the time but yet they do not have the right to vote in that countries elections, and all this without jackbooted nazis rounding them up and tranporting them to the camps. may I also draw your attention to the last sentence of my post. Quite frankly I find your slur that I am a nazi and a racist completely insulting and if it wasn't for the T&Cs I would tell you exactly where to go with your attitude.

are you sure your not on something that rambling nonsense is worthy of Shetlandpeat

at the moment we have no control over who gets to live here or register to vote so what's to stop fat eck sending a few thousand scotties up here registering them to vote then calling a referendum on our independence. inky if you don't live here you don't get a vote but I suspect you knew that's what I meant anyway this rule would mean my own mother would not get a vote and she would vote for us cutting all ties with Scotland the country of her birth, so its works both ways.

. When it comes to a vote on independence I am of the opinion that you should be able to prove at least one set of grand parents are from Shetland. A solid link to Shetlands past before you get a vote on Shetlands future

precisely my point for suggesting the dogs are publicly funded pets , lots of the hash smokers are (psychotics) growing thier skunk themselves now n promoting its use to teenagers right under our very noses and actively teaching them how to get each other off with false alibys , and of course the shetland folk get their heads in whatever sand is available , opperation transparent methinks , it doesnt involve easy money off fixed penalties , so just let it happen I know a lot of hash smokers and the only psychotics were that way before they smoked hash, I would suggest that being a psychotic is more likely to lead to drug use than drug use is likely to lead to being psychotic. I fail to see how having a fake alibi is going to get you off with a drug charge, you are either caught with the stuff or your not If someone is caught in possession of an illegal substance claiming to be somewhere or someone else is hardly going to wash, The leniency of the courts is down to namby pamby social enquiry reports and a half wit (napier) for a sheriff. On a brighter note though a friend of mines son was a heavy user of heroin and claiming incapacity and unable to work because of his drug of choice. Then in January of this year he was called in and told his benefits were being removed. the removal of this crutch was what was needed to give him the proverbial kick up the ass and get on with his life. He has been of heroin ever since and off prescription for 6 months and in full time employment since February. The tough approach this government is taking works if the civil servants tasked with carrying it out actually do their jobs properly. And I have to say it is a real pleasure to see this young man making a go of his life instead of the useless junky he was last year

In the time these dogs have been in use, the availability of hard drugs and heroin in particular has increased beyond all reason the only drug that has been negatively impacted in terms of supply is hash.

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