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Capeesh

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  1. The energy providers: "We need to up the bills to provide energy to you." "We have just made record breaking profits." Zombie Tory Government: "We can't do anything because we haven't chosen a new leader yet." "No we couldn't possibly cut vat on your bills or tax the energy companies." "What we might do to stop the riots is con you by using your own taxes and/or print more money to 'gift' you a few hundred pounds to help you pay your energy bill thus maintaining the massive profits and share dividends both us and our backers enjoy." The whole thing is a massive con, what the companies do (legally) is create subsidiaries that show a loss thus protecting them from paying tax. At the same time the parent company rakes in the profits. The doo doo is about to hit the fan this winter so what will probably happen is the government will (yet again) use public money to bail out private companies and package it as a 'gift' to us from the Chancellor so the gullible keep voting for them. One thing's for certain, privatisation is very expensive for us and highly profitable for companies, the only thing that stops the whole house of cards from collapsing is a large number of (better off) voters in addition to most of those in government are shareholders in these businesses collecting annual dividends in the biggest sure thing you can possibly get... 'Privatised' companies that get bailed out with public money every time their profit margins don't satisfy the shareholders.
  2. @ Colin Yes absolutely! 1)The UK voted for a party that stated it was going to have a referendum on EU membership 2)The referendum was arranged in the UK with no interference from the EU on the process, eg timing, question etc 3)The referendum went ahead, the majority voted to leave and the UK left. Now a few years on we're in this situation with Scotland... 1)Scotland voted for parties that stated they're going to have a referendum on UK membership.... See the similarities? (Here's where the hypocrisy about sovereignty, self determination and democracy comes into effect) 2)UK to Scotland - You can only have a referendum if/when WE allow it. That's the UK government's hypocrisy, some of the stuff I've heard from Brexit voters, even on this thread, goes further than this into the realms of the ludicrous. Things like.. Insinuating the UK government could ignore the result of any plebiscite and send the troops in. Cheerleading the partition of Scotland. (these are just a couple of examples in the last few posts, can't be bothered to look further but there's loads and loads of this type of stuff. The funny thing is this, imagine if the EU had said to the UK something along these lines... 'you can't have a referendum unless we say so and if you have any type of plebiscite without our permission we won't accept it, we'll send our troops in, you can maybe get a vote on the condition that we keep the chunks of your country that voted to remain. etc etc' It's absolutely unthinkable! Imagine the front pages of the Daily Mail, I'm sure they had some made up garbage about some EU directive on bananas! They would've had a field day with troop ships crossing the channel!
  3. Brexiteers (leaving a union of Nations) - Doesn't matter if 2 out of the 4 Nations of the UK didn't want to leave the EU, respect the result, sovereignty, self determination, democracy etc etc Also Brexiteers (leaving a different union of Nations) -cough cough, Not you Scotland, we won't allow it, send the troops in, we will only allow it if you partition your country and give us some etc etc.
  4. If you go through this quote ^^^ and change "Scotland" to "the UK" ... Then change "Scottish independence" to "Brexit" you get a good example of hypocrisy. It would go something like this........... The UK can do anything they please, on one condition. That, in the event of the UK holding a referendum, and the result is in support of Brexit, that they then give Shetland and/or Shetland and Orkney the opportunity to hold a referendum to decide whether Shetland and/or Orkney goes with the UK as an independent country, stays with the EU, or something else... ... However, if they're not willing to agree to a referendum for us, then we should be blocking their's at any opportunity on the grounds they're hypocrites...
  5. If by "fails" you mean a no to independence then from a democratic standpoint it would be whenever the Scottish electorate demanded one by voting for a party or parties that have holding one in their manifesto's and them achieving a parliamentary majority on that issue. The same's true if by failure you mean the majority vote FOR independence. A party or parties would have to go to the polls with a manifesto pledge to hold a referendum to ask the electorate if they want to give up their country's independence, they would then have to achieve the majority of MP's needed to vote it through Parliament. I know there's some people out there against Scottish independence who would prefer if all mention of it went away. Maybe if the UK government had done something to make the UK a more attractive proposition for some of the 'yes' and reluctant 'no' voters after the 2014 referendum it could've panned out that way... We'll never know. What I find disturbing are those who would deny ANY democratic path to independence. Thankfully we don't live in a dictatorship and despite some of the rhetoric that's out there Scotland is still a voluntary member of the United Kingdom. The people will decide whether or not they want to remain part of it.
  6. Great, if it's in the bag for the union somebody needs to tell those in Westminster that there's nothing to worry about and let democracy take its course.
  7. Meanwhile on Normal Island we have a PM who has just resigned as party leader but will remain PM until September!!! The moron can't even resign properly! No wonder a large chunk of the Scottish electorate want out, the UK won't have a functioning government for months at a time when the problems facing the average Joe in the street are as bad as they've been for 40+ years.
  8. Boris is the 15th unionist party leader she's seen come and go, if I was a betting man looking at that form I know who my money would be on but she's only one woman and Boris is only one man, in a democracy it's the multitudes that matter. One thing's for sure, Scottish independence doesn't seem to be going away as has been proven, beyond doubt, in every election since 2011. It's the message the electorate is sending that matters not the leaders, they come and go with the breeze.
  9. I see our Tory government is having a complete meltdown today, loads of ministers resigning, lying, corruption, the country is going down the toilet. Rampant inflation, food banks, people having to decide whether to eat or heat and the guy that's meant to fix it all ( the Chancellor of the Exchequer) has just quit along with the Health Secretary, and loads of others, complete shambles..... Surely we could make a better fist of things than this, couldn't we?????
  10. Not how parliamentary democracy works. The obvious flaw is we can't expect babies to vote. Mandatory voting isn't required in this country either but even when we exclude children and change it to voting aged population the Tories formed a government with an 80 seat majority and they had a smaller percentage of the vote, nobody says they have no mandate to govern.
  11. That's the beauty of democracy, it's never static, it's one of the vital sparks that makes it all work. Yes, we voted to remain in the UK in 2014 and that's exactly what happened. Things have moved on though, the electorate has decided they want another referendum. The mandate to deliver a second referendum is ironclad. The parties who put it forward in their manifesto's have been democratically elected and have achieved a majority in the Scottish parliament to deliver it. Even if you're dead set against independence, or if you were a bit confused or didn't know what you were voting for when you put that X in the box, don't worry, democracy comes to the rescue again!! The second democratic failsafe is the referendum itself where we, the electorate, get to decide how we proceed with a yes or no to a simple question.
  12. I respect Spinners views as I respect the views of those against Scottish independence, the chances of everybody agreeing on anything is zero. Thankfully because we are fortunate enough to not live in Putin's Russia or North Korea we have the best solution to these instances where we can't find universal agreement... Democracy! Put it to the electorate and they'll decide.
  13. ^^Neil Oliver? The scruffy long haired history guy? Handy for identifying Roman pottery or digging holes I suppose but as for medical knowledge… meh.
  14. The strangest phenomenon is people ignoring their own eyes and ears, I’m not talking about reading it online or hearing it on the news, I mean first hand experience. The “Covid’s fake” and “Brexit’s great” people are the most baffling to me. They must live in bubbles listening to conspiracy theorists on youtube.
  15. If the return of the blue passport isn’t enough to persuade us they’re even talking about bringing back imperial measurements. Pity we won’t be able to afford to go anywhere and if your looking for a quarter pound of sherbet lemons I’m afraid they’re all out, not enough lorry drivers and the cost of a container load of Spanish sherbet lemons has tripled
  16. Empty supermarket shelves and soaring gas and electricity prices. Never saw that printed on the side of the big red Brexit bus. Even if we end up having to eat cabbage soup in our freezing cold houses under candlelight I’m sure there will still be Brexit voters telling us it was all a brilliant idea.
  17. ^^ If local producers are pushed out of business with cheap imports and an end to subsidies the choice will be taken away from me. That’ll be the UK government’s fault.
  18. Capeesh

    Photo ID

    They’re up to no good with this one. The link states electoral fraud is negligible, so to me the motivation seems to be an attempt to disenfranchise the people who don’t hold a driving licence or passport and are unlikely to go to the bother or expense of getting other forms of acceptable photo ID. Under 20’s, the poor etc.
  19. This might work, might need to scale it up a bit for flies though.
  20. I find it very telling that these stuck in the past ministers still believe they can strut over to Australia like imperial overlords. Looking down their noses and insulting their Australian counterparts is seriously counter-productive as we have just found out to our great cost. To the disbelief and amusement of the Australians, the highly experienced Australian trade envoy has dug his heels in, tied Liz Truss in knots and managed to get everything they were looking for in the trade negotiations. If you read this link, you’ll see the British exceptionalism dripping from these pompous morons. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/liz-truss-australia-trade-talks-b1835072.html?amp From the link... “She plans to sit him down in the Locarno Room [in the Foreign Office] in an uncomfortable chair, so he has to deal with her directly for nine hours,” said the source. The source reportedly described Mr Tehan as “inexperienced” compared to Ms Truss, adding: “He needs to show that he can play at this level.” Australia’s ABC News said the comments were greeted “with a mixture of disbelief and laughter” in Canberra. The inexperience jibe was regarded as all the more peculiar as before entering parliament, Mr Tehan worked from 1995 at the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade and later as senior adviser to the trade minister, before serving as director of trade policy and international affairs with the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry.
  21. What has the NFU really worried is if they throw farming under the bus in the Australian trade agreement it means any future trade agreement has that as a benchmark. When they approach USA, Canada, Brazil, New Zealand etc the first thing they’re going to say is “we want what you gave Australia and we’re not budging until we get it”. Economies of scale will lead to even the largest UK farmers struggling to compete.
  22. Good point. I’ll give it some thought while I’m tucking into my rubbery, chemically filled Australian lamb roast, quietly wondering why the dogs are turning their noses up at the scraps. Maybe you’re right, I really do struggle to find any positives from Brexit Britain. There’s probably loads of other plus points to take from Shetland’s crofters getting bludgeoned by the Brexit sledgehammer. Let me try and think positively... No noisy baaaaing, especially at this time of year. mmm..... OH! No sheep on the roads, that’s a good one... mmm... struggling here.... No more itchy gansey’s? Not sure about this one, wool can be bought. That’s all I can think of for me personally but I’m not a crofter. I can’t see it giving much comfort to those friends and family who either make a living from crofting or supplement their income from it.
  23. Australia free trade deal seems to be the beginning of the end for crofters in Shetland. Cheap meat imports galore! Another industry and way of life on the brink of destruction thanks to Brexit.
  24. This is completely on Boris and his useless ‘Red List’ (countries who are required to quarantine when arriving in the UK). All the hard work and sacrifices people are making wasted by an incompetent at the helm. In direct comparison, Scotland decided to make all international arrivals quarantine, this itself might have helped a bit but when we have no control over people taking a flight to England and crossing the border it looks like it has been a waste of time and effort.
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