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indeed they were butchered but that does not justify there actions now.

to promote tension in your neighbours is not the act of a mature state. when did we try to split france up. after all most of north an eastern france was historically english. when was the last time we murdered our dissidents, can you imagine how long Alex Salmon would last. http:// http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/death-of-a-dissident-moscows-murky-assassins-450530.html http://www.demdigest.net/blog/?p=442 http://www.blogigo.co.uk/bulgaria/British-counterintelligence-services-stopped-attempt/3/

2006 http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/2887/ aug 2008 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4621592.ece concerning the ukraine Vladimir Putin’s recent remarks while still president of Russia clarified Russia’s position on that account. During the recent NATO summit and in the follow-up meeting with U.S. President George W. Bush in Sochi, Putin commented that much of Ukraine’s territory had been “given away†by Russia and that Ukraine would “cease to exist as a state†if it joined NATO. In that case, Putin hinted, Russia would encourage secession of the Crimea and eastern regions of Ukraine. While Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov refused to deny Putin’s comments, Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergei Lavrov confirmed them almost explicitly, though more diplomatically, for the media. Duma politicians and Kremlin consultants, such as Gleb Pavlovsky, have suggested that Russia withdraw from the 1997 treaty or, technically speaking, not renew its validity upon its expiry in 2009 (see EDM, March 24, April 10, 14). now if you were a former state of the ussr would you feel safe with them as your neighbour. have a read if intrested http://www.kyivpost.com/nation/29583 they are not a nice warm cuddly teddy bear. they have craws and they will use them.

the land belongs to georgia its not russian. it was putins spokes person. when russia has got rid of there ex ussr leadership and when they want to start a proper relationship with there neighbours. thats when i will start trusting the russians. but i dobt that will happen they have never been a democratic state.

intresting comment from the russiam pm. i thought the russians were there as peace keepers. would this be the same peace keeping as they did in eastern europe. of course it will be the wests fault after all we are the empire of evil. its our fault that russia from the mid 16th century has been building its empire. when they could not fund it anymore it collapsed. with all empires they grow stagnate and then die. the russians will want to re live their past glory but empires never re grow. thats why we still think we are a world power. who knows they may be a misunderstood country. but i think we would be fools if we did not keep our defenses up.

i will do it will just take a while

http://www.lifetechnology.org/h2x.htm is this a positive thing http://quantum-healing-lasers.com/scalar-wave-laser.html so we are all going to stop getting old. are you sure they are not building a Tachyonic field engine. who knows they may know something we dont. for those who cant be bothered to read long sudoscience articles tesla thouht he had invented this ages back. think of it as a big spaceship engine. and anybody wanting to know what we need one see below but i warn you its boring. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6xDrN5K9AM&feature=related

again you have just said it the do cause harm. so give us the reasons backed up with both stats and costings that support your view. your turn to prove what your saying. forget the choice bit lets have facts.

and how many crofter/farmers do you see trying to shoot kids on the street. that the point about guns they are made to kill so a prat shooting one at people tells it all but thats fine cant spoil someones fun can we. must have all the freedom to do what we want and no responsability.

and in response harmless mmm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPITs82wP2U&feature=related and the final proof of the horror of drugs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrt4NFkrsdI&feature=related

ist that sort of the quantities a pushers has. very kind sheriff. a value of just over £2 a tab that seems rather cheap. never mind im sure the lad can cover his losses very quickly. thought a long jail term was usual for supply.

err no. if folks are upset about wind turbines. can you imagine the posts you would get over atomic power.

ok lets clear a few things up. i posted his thread as a response to a suggestion on another thread. as an air gun owner and soon a .22 rifle owner i have no problem with people owning firearms in whatever form they take. i have no problem with the proper use of firearms whever that is hunting/target/pest control. what i do have a problem with is bb produced to resemble real firearms. i have a problem with the open sale of them in some shops. if a bb gun does have a purpose it should be treated like any other airweapon. not allowed to be desplayed. the sale should be with proof of age and address. the suggestion that they are an armless toy is wrong. they are guns even if they are very weak ones and as such should be treated with respect. im not wanting to ban everthing as a mod suggested. im just very worried when there are two airweapon offences in a week. the idiots with the bb gun have been delt with in another thread. the other is not as bad but he should have lost his gun and maybe have been banned from holding one. he did not seem to have been worried that he scared people.

lrts ban them

and what are the reports going to saY THAT the poor little things have had a hard life and it was a cry for help. they used a gun (even if it was a bb). shame they cant be sent into the army. then they could go running around waving guns around. but of course the army would not want them now they have a conviction. they were shooting at a woman with a pram. lock them up and then do the reports.

why is just getting a job a an excuse for not getting hammered by the law. if you got drunk and were pulled for it that excuse would not work. if they lose there job tough thats life. why should they not have thought of this before they started shooting people. even if jail is to extreme how about a massive amount of community work. its worrying that they have got pasted the instictive bar on hurting people.

the police seem to have been nice to these idiots. so they should have got at least 6 months. but they could have got Having air weapon with intent to endanger life Life imprisonment and / or appropriate fine.

how about gbh. have they no brains shooting at a woman with kids. how easy would it have been to blind someone. they would have then have been shocked etc. whats the point in a bb gun. it has no point. you cant hunt or do proper target shooting. though we should be glad we have tough gun laws. can you imagine if he had areal gun.

is there not a law about firing an air weapon in a public place. i know i was stopped when i was a teenager because i had a air rifle. they checked if it was loaded and charged. im sure there are very large fines for this offence by itself. when you start shooting at people wether its a bb gun or not it should be treated the same as a firearms offence. its a pity that there are no armed police up here. it would after all have been a good laugh to see them eating the road with a gun stuck at there head.

true. but the fact is that they have no choice they are both going to have to learn to get on with each other. neither of them are popular with the other countries in the area. there is another aspect to this conflict that seems to have been overlooked when the british mandate ended and the war between the arab states and the israelis broke out jordan captured the west bank area of palestine. the jordanians never returned this area to the rightfu people. would the west bank have ever become Palestinian. the same happened with the gaza strip. it was ment to be Palestinian but egypt invaded and captured it. you could argue that without isreals existance would this fragmented state would never have come into being. history may prove that its all down to the cold war tension that resulted in this long running conflict. it was a lot cheaper for the yanks and russians to wage a proxy war than to do it themselves. with a lot of the world conflicts it just takes a bit of common sense for for them to be resolved. look at cyprus they are on the verge of reuniting a few years ago they were regularly shooting at each other. lets hope that this will happen to isrealis and Palestinians.

looks like isreals wall is working. http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-+Obstacle+to+Peace/Palestinian+terror+since+2000/Victims+of+Palestinian+Violence+and+Terrorism+sinc.htm if these deaths had been americans there would have been nothing left of the west bank. no country can allow there people to be murdered.

answer the question how did they die this lady was run over by a bus http://www.geocities.com/deke1942/tccop/Nazi_Woman.jpg this man was just misunderstood http://www.rinr.fsu.edu/winter2005/images/ss.jpg the people are of course actors in the pay of the zionists. welcome to butlins http://dublinopinion.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/0-1-a_b_a_ah_aaaaaab_c_stock_a_wagesofdestruction.jpg we have lots of locations http://z.about.com/d/history1900s/1/0/D/6/EasternEurope3.JPG of course non of this happened. they all lied the nazis were just nice friendly people http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~alb/ugly/naziSoldiersBrutalizeJewInPoland.jpg if you really belive what your saying your one sick person. and yes we are watching you. (*** Mod - Images unlinked due to size and hot-linking concerns; please follow the links for the original images ***)

so your member1 of the shetland national socialist party. it happened it happened it happened were are the people oh great one http://www.drugpolicycentral.com/bot/images/hitler_bw01.gif and your the grey tubby http://www.heathenworld.com/swastika/Thumbnails/t_telletubby.jpg (*** Mod - Hotlinked images, un-linked; please see forum image FAQ ***)

refusing to give a police officer you name and address will result in your detention untill they can prove who you are. i would recommend just being polite and allow them to do there job. i saw a norwigian salior walking his dog on victoria pier today. very shortly after a police car shot up to the boat. the police are not here to give you a hard time they are here to serve us. if you belive that you have been ill treated complain.

there was this little man who developed an irrational hatred of a ethnic minority he shouted that he was preaching the truth and he lead is country to its destruction. lks like we have a new leader in shetland. perhaps he needs to start growing his tash and walking funny. http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/irran_holocaust_denial.gif Return to opening page . Holocaust denial Holocaust revisionism as it is referred to by its supporters or Holocaust denial as referred by its opposes, is the belief that the Holocaust did not occur as it is described by mainstream historiography. Key elements of this belief are the explicit or implicit rejection that, in the Holocaust: The Nazi government had a policy of deliberately targeting the Jews and the Gypsies for extermination as a people; Over five million Jews were systematically killed by the Nazis and their allies. Tools of efficient mass extermination, such as gas chambers, were used in extermination camps to kill Jews. In addition, most Holocaust denial implies, or openly states, that the current mainstream understanding of the Holocaust is the result of a deliberate Jewish conspiracy created to advance the interest of Jews at the expense of other nations. For this reason, Holocaust denial is generally considered an antisemitic conspiracy theory. Because of this, Holocaust denial is also illegal in a number of European countries, as their governments hold that it is motivated by an antisemitic and anti-democratic agenda. Most historians and scholars reject Holocaust denial as "grounded in hatred, rather than any accepted standards of assertion, evidence, and truth" and a "pseudoscience" that "rejects the entire foundation of historical evidence," instead motivated by an anti-semitic ideology. While a few Holocaust deniers have training as historians, some of their most prominent representatives have been shown in court to have a pattern of falsifying historical documents (e.g. David Irving) or deliberately misrepresenting historical data (e.g. Ernst Zündel). This history of Holocaust deniers distorting, ignoring, or misusing historical records has led to almost universal condemnation of the techniques and conclusions of Holocaust denial, with organizations such as the American Historical Association, the largest society of historians in the United States, stating that Holocaust denial is "at best, a form of academic fraud." Beliefs of Holocaust Deniers Holocaust deniers make the following claims, though not all Holocaust deniers make all of the claims listed: • Nazis did not use gas chambers to mass murder Jews. Small chambers did exist for delousing and Zyklon-B was used in this process. • Nazis did not use cremation ovens to dispose of extermination victims. The amount of energy required to fire the ovens far exceeded what the energy-strapped nation could spare in wartime. • The cremation ovens that existed would have been too small for this purpose and the reason there were cremation ovens at all was they were put in to provide cremation services for the deaths from natural causes and disease epidemics that could reasonably be expected in a high-density work camp. • The figure of 5-6 million Jewish deaths is an irresponsible exaggeration, and many Jews who actually emigrated to Russia, Britain, Palestine and the United States are included in the number. • Many photos and much of the film footage shown after World War II was specially manufactured as propaganda against the Nazis by the Allied forces. For example, one film, shown to Germans after the war, of supposed Holocaust victims were in fact German civilians being treated after Allied bombing of Dresden. Pictures we commonly see show victims of starvation or typhus, not of gassing. • Claims of what the Nazis supposedly did to the Jews were all intended to facilitate the Allies in their intention to enable the creation of a Jewish homeland in Palestine, and are currently used to garner support for the policies of the state of Israel, especially in its dealings with the Palestinians. • Historical proof for the Holocaust is falsified or deliberately misinterpreted. • There is an American, British or Jewish conspiracy to make Jews look like victims and to demonize Germans. Also, it was in the Soviet interest to propagate wild stories about Germany in order to frighten related nations into accepting Soviet rule (Poland, Czechoslovakia, etc.). The amount of money pumped into Israel and reparations from Germany alone give Israel a strong incentive to maintain this conspiracy. • The overwhelming number of biased academics and historians are too afraid to actually admit that the Holocaust was a fiction; they know they will lose their jobs if they speak up. http://politicalpartypoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/holocaust.jpg how did they die